FP: Bullets turn into tables!

Guest · Mar 19, 2006

I generate a bulleted list of items by date. When I reopen the page for
editing, the bulleted list has turned into a two-column table with the
bullets in the first column and the text following the bullets in the second
column. If I look at the generated HTML, I see table definitions for both
the items turned into a table and for items that still appear in a normal
bulleted list. The HTML at the top of the bad section is:

<o

>
<h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099">
<o

>
<font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
March 2006</span></font></font></h2>
</font><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img
src="_themes/mslc-blends-2/blebul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"
alt="bullet"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><font
face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica">
<p style="line-height: 150%">Friday,<i> </i>

<o

>
<i>March 10</i><br>
Day Off</font></td></tr>
<o

>

and the HTML at the start of the good section:

<o

>

<b>

<a href="news.htm#Lent is Coming">Good Friday</a></b> Service of
Darkness
and Reflection<br>
Adult Choir</font></td></tr>
</table><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial,
Helvetica">
<h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099"><font
size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
April - September 2006</span></font></font></h2>

<o

>

I have no idea what the <o

> tags are and can't seem to find any references
describing them. Neither can I figure out what is different about these two
snippets of HTML that one should start a table and the other should not.

Any ideas?

TIA,

Rob

Stefan B Rusynko · Mar 19, 2006

The <o

> tags are from pasting from another MS Office page (Word, etc)
Prior to FP 2003, all bulleted lists using themes are converted to 2 column tables

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|I generate a bulleted list of items by date. When I reopen the page for
| editing, the bulleted list has turned into a two-column table with the
| bullets in the first column and the text following the bullets in the second
| column. If I look at the generated HTML, I see table definitions for both
| the items turned into a table and for items that still appear in a normal
| bulleted list. The HTML at the top of the bad section is:
|
| <o

>
| <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099">
| <o

>
| <font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| March 2006</span></font></font></h2>
| </font><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
| cellspacing="0" width="100%">
| <tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img
| src="_themes/mslc-blends-2/blebul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"
| alt="bullet"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><font
| face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica">
| <p style="line-height: 150%">Friday,<i> </i>
|
| <o

>
| <i>March 10</i><br>
| Day Off</font></td></tr>
| <o

>
|
| and the HTML at the start of the good section:
|
| <o

>
|
| I have no idea what the <o

Guest · Mar 19, 2006

Stefan,

Thanks! So, I am assuming that the <o

> tags all can be removed. Is that
a "proprietary" tag (something specific to FrontPage)?

From the HTML starting the "April" block, I suspected that tables might be
in the FP's implementation of bulleted lists. So, the answer lies in some
subtle formatting difference that occasionally shows up in one of these
blocks that converts the appearance from looking like a bulleted list to one
that looks like the implementation you describe: a two-column table with the
bullet in column one and the text in column two. The thing that
differentiates it from the desired format is that you can see the cell lines,
and on multi-line cells, the bullet is centered vertically among all the
lines.

Now that you have told me explicitely, I have checked the appearence when
displayed as normal HTML, and it appears in the proper format - no cell lines
and bullets left of the first line of text - even after modifying and saving
the "bad appearence". It appears that, on random blocks, FP displays the
table visibly in edit mode (only) and not for other blocks.

Knowing that it still formats OK in normal HTML rendering, I will worry less
- and someday even upgrade to FP 2003.

Thanks, again, for your help,

Rob

Stefan B Rusynko said:
The <o> tags are from pasting from another MS Office page (Word, etc)
Prior to FP 2003, all bulleted lists using themes are converted to 2 column tables

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

|I generate a bulleted list of items by date. When I reopen the page for
| editing, the bulleted list has turned into a two-column table with the
| bullets in the first column and the text following the bullets in the second
| column. If I look at the generated HTML, I see table definitions for both
| the items turned into a table and for items that still appear in a normal
| bulleted list. The HTML at the top of the bad section is:
|
| <o>
| <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099">
| <o>
| <font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| March 2006</span></font></font></h2>
| </font><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
| cellspacing="0" width="100%">
| <tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img
| src="_themes/mslc-blends-2/blebul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"
| alt="bullet"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><font
| face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica">
| <p style="line-height: 150%">Friday,<i> </i>
|
| <o>
| <i>March 10</i><br>
| Day Off</font></td></tr>
| <o>
|
| and the HTML at the start of the good section:
|
| <o>
|
| <b>
|
| <a href="news.htm#Lent is Coming">Good Friday</a></b> Service of
| Darkness
| and Reflection<br>
| Adult Choir</font></td></tr>
| </table><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial,
| Helvetica">
| <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099"><font
| size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| April - September 2006</span></font></font></h2>
|
| <o>
|
| I have no idea what the <o> tags are and can't seem to find any references
| describing them. Neither can I figure out what is different about these two
| snippets of HTML that one should start a table and the other should not.
|
| Any ideas?
|
| TIA,
|
| Rob
|

Stefan B Rusynko · Mar 20, 2006

<o

> is not a FP tag - remove them

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Stefan,
|
| Thanks! So, I am assuming that the <o

> tags all can be removed. Is that
| a "proprietary" tag (something specific to FrontPage)?
|
| From the HTML starting the "April" block, I suspected that tables might be
| in the FP's implementation of bulleted lists. So, the answer lies in some
| subtle formatting difference that occasionally shows up in one of these
| blocks that converts the appearance from looking like a bulleted list to one
| that looks like the implementation you describe: a two-column table with the
| bullet in column one and the text in column two. The thing that
| differentiates it from the desired format is that you can see the cell lines,
| and on multi-line cells, the bullet is centered vertically among all the
| lines.
|
| Now that you have told me explicitely, I have checked the appearence when
| displayed as normal HTML, and it appears in the proper format - no cell lines
| and bullets left of the first line of text - even after modifying and saving
| the "bad appearence". It appears that, on random blocks, FP displays the
| table visibly in edit mode (only) and not for other blocks.
|
| Knowing that it still formats OK in normal HTML rendering, I will worry less
| - and someday even upgrade to FP 2003.
|
| Thanks, again, for your help,
|
| Rob
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > The <o

> tags are from pasting from another MS Office page (Word, etc)
| > Prior to FP 2003, all bulleted lists using themes are converted to 2 column tables
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > |I generate a bulleted list of items by date. When I reopen the page for
| > | editing, the bulleted list has turned into a two-column table with the
| > | bullets in the first column and the text following the bullets in the second
| > | column. If I look at the generated HTML, I see table definitions for both
| > | the items turned into a table and for items that still appear in a normal
| > | bulleted list. The HTML at the top of the bad section is:
| > |
| > | <o

>
| > | <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099">
| > | <o

>
| > | <font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| > | March 2006</span></font></font></h2>
| > | </font><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
| > | cellspacing="0" width="100%">
| > | <tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img
| > | src="_themes/mslc-blends-2/blebul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"
| > | alt="bullet"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><font
| > | face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica">
| > | <p style="line-height: 150%">Friday,<i> </i>
| > |
| > | <o

>
| > | <i>March 10</i><br>
| > | Day Off</font></td></tr>
| > | <o

>
| > |
| > | and the HTML at the start of the good section:
| > |
| > | <o

>
| > |
| > | <b>
| > |
| > | <a href="news.htm#Lent is Coming">Good Friday</a></b> Service of
| > | Darkness
| > | and Reflection<br>
| > | Adult Choir</font></td></tr>
| > | </table><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial,
| > | Helvetica">
| > | <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099"><font
| > | size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| > | April - September 2006</span></font></font></h2>
| > |
| > | <o

>
| > |
| > | I have no idea what the <o

> tags are and can't seem to find any references
| > | describing them. Neither can I figure out what is different about these two
| > | snippets of HTML that one should start a table and the other should not.
| > |
| > | Any ideas?
| > |
| > | TIA,
| > |
| > | Rob
| > |
| >
| >
| >

Guest · Mar 20, 2006

Thanks!

Stefan B Rusynko said:
<o> is not a FP tag - remove them

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________

| Stefan,
|
| Thanks! So, I am assuming that the <o> tags all can be removed. Is that
| a "proprietary" tag (something specific to FrontPage)?
|
| From the HTML starting the "April" block, I suspected that tables might be
| in the FP's implementation of bulleted lists. So, the answer lies in some
| subtle formatting difference that occasionally shows up in one of these
| blocks that converts the appearance from looking like a bulleted list to one
| that looks like the implementation you describe: a two-column table with the
| bullet in column one and the text in column two. The thing that
| differentiates it from the desired format is that you can see the cell lines,
| and on multi-line cells, the bullet is centered vertically among all the
| lines.
|
| Now that you have told me explicitely, I have checked the appearence when
| displayed as normal HTML, and it appears in the proper format - no cell lines
| and bullets left of the first line of text - even after modifying and saving
| the "bad appearence". It appears that, on random blocks, FP displays the
| table visibly in edit mode (only) and not for other blocks.
|
| Knowing that it still formats OK in normal HTML rendering, I will worry less
| - and someday even upgrade to FP 2003.
|
| Thanks, again, for your help,
|
| Rob
|
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > The <o> tags are from pasting from another MS Office page (Word, etc)
| > Prior to FP 2003, all bulleted lists using themes are converted to 2 column tables
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > |I generate a bulleted list of items by date. When I reopen the page for
| > | editing, the bulleted list has turned into a two-column table with the
| > | bullets in the first column and the text following the bullets in the second
| > | column. If I look at the generated HTML, I see table definitions for both
| > | the items turned into a table and for items that still appear in a normal
| > | bulleted list. The HTML at the top of the bad section is:
| > |
| > | <o>
| > | <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099">
| > | <o>
| > | <font size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| > | March 2006</span></font></font></h2>
| > | </font><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
| > | cellspacing="0" width="100%">
| > | <tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img
| > | src="_themes/mslc-blends-2/blebul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"
| > | alt="bullet"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><font
| > | face="Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica">
| > | <p style="line-height: 150%">Friday,<i> </i>
| > |
| > | <o>
| > | <i>March 10</i><br>
| > | Day Off</font></td></tr>
| > | <o>
| > |
| > | and the HTML at the start of the good section:
| > |
| > | <o>
| > |
| > | <b>
| > |
| > | <a href="news.htm#Lent is Coming">Good Friday</a></b> Service of
| > | Darkness
| > | and Reflection<br>
| > | Adult Choir</font></td></tr>
| > | </table><font face="Trebuchet MS, Arial,
| > | Helvetica">
| > | <h2 style="line-height: 150%"><font color="#330099"><font
| > | size="3"><span style="font-family: Tahoma">
| > | April - September 2006</span></font></font></h2>
| > |
| > | <o>
| > |
| > | I have no idea what the <o> tags are and can't seem to find any references
| > | describing them. Neither can I figure out what is different about these two
| > | snippets of HTML that one should start a table and the other should not.
| > |
| > | Any ideas?
| > |
| > | TIA,
| > |
| > | Rob
| > |
| >
| >
| >

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