FP 2003 Feature Question

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I am curious about the FP 2003 feature that allows one to include Code
Snippets. This wording sounds like they may have more facilities in 2003 to
include common code modules thatn were present in FP 2002 with the Include
Component process.

I have read the comparision chart of features on the Micorsoft web site. It
has gotten my hopes up.

The FP 2002 Include Component feature required any component to be in the
CURRENT web. So, if you were subdividing your large web site into subwebs,
you could not use anything in the ROOT dirtectory of the server, or in any
other subweb with the Component Include feature.

Does the FP 2003 process to include code snippets make it possible to
utilitze common code snippets that are located on the same server, but being
evoked from within orther webs ( as in sub-webs)?

What I am getting at is that FP2002 limits the Include Components to those
that are physically within the current web. If one has structured a large
web site as a series of smaller subwebs, it would be nice to be able to use
FP facilities to get at similar code modules that are located OUTSIDE the
current web, yet within the master web site, and do this without using
server side INCLUDES that cannot be tested on a local hard disk and require
renaming the files to an extension that the server will recognize needs to
be preprocessed to find and do the server side INCLUDES.

I want to be able to include common code snippets ( comnmon modules). But ,
do NOT want to use server-side INCLUDES.

So, I am wondering if the FP2003 process to include code snippets provides
this sort of facility.

This facility may be so useful to me that I would consider upgrading my
system from Win98 to Win XP in order to be able to use FP 2003.

Can someone who is using FP 2003 or intimatetly familiar with it, explain
the limitiations of using code snippets from within subwebs when the code
snippets are NOY in that particular subweb?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Code Snippets and FP Include Pages components are two different features.

The Code Snippet function is the ability to store code for later insertion into your page as you are
designing them, such as DOCTYPES, etc.

See:
http://anybackpage.com/bytes/currentissue.asp
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[news frontiernet.net]

Apparently it does not function as an expanded version of Include Component.
That it does NOT allow inclusion of code modules outside the current web or
subweb.

This seems like such a logical and valuable feature that I am amazed that it
is not, yet, part of a very nice piece of authoring software like FrontPage.

I would like to be able to design and test common modules that exist on the
server in the Root directory without using server side includes.

But, then I can only use what IS there.

Apparently upgrading to Win XP and FrontPage 2003 will not provide
assistance with that need.

But, thanks for the insight!

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If you are working with ASP or other server-side script, I don't see why you would have problem with
using SSI to re-used code functions. With ASP SSI implemented as part of the ASP DLLs, so as long as
all of your pages are .asp there really should be no issues.

When you work with FP subwebs / subsites, they are treated as completely independent sites under a
root web, and each can be a separate application root.

Can you give examples of what you are trying or might want to do?

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[news frontiernet.net]

No, I do not use ASP or some other server-side script, nor do I intend to
use them.

I like FrontPage 2002 because it makes many tasks much simpler, less techy.
I like the facilities that eliminate my need to hand code what my mind can
conceive. I like the quick visualization of what I am doing at the code
level. I like the publishing facility because it makes a boring tedious job
simple and doesnt rely upon human memory to decide which files need to be
moved to the server and thus is more reliable than my old FTP methods.

In an overview sense of things, the facility I seek would be something
similar to the use I make of Component Include Page. But the material to be
included would NOT be within the current web, but either in the server Root,
or another subweb.

I understand these tasks can be done using server-side SSI. But, my desire
is to keep my developement within the FrontPage environment where I can
visualize the trial-and-error design ideas I come up with.

And, I understand that it is technically possible to set up a server on my
PC to test these ideas. However, I am not a technically inclined person. I
dread techy concepts. I would not be able to troubleshoot a personal server.

So, I am looking for tools that do not require SSI nor a personal server. It
came to my attrention that it was possible that FP2003 had such facilities.

I thank you for clarifying that, even tho the news was not what I had hoped
for.