Error publishing a site with a subweb. "you do not have permission todo this operation" FP 2003


R

Roveer

I've been publishing mywebsite to my "comcast" web space for the past
2 months (It's a test location). This morning I created a subweb in
my website and when I published the website it worked until I check
"publish subwebs" (which I want to do). Now it publishes the web
site
but when it gets to the subweb I get "You do not have permission to
do this operation. Ask you web site administrator to change your
permission and then try again, or log on with a user account that has
permission"

I am unable to publish the sub web.


How do I fix this?


It appears that FP extensions are working. My original web site had
navigation and I was able to add a FP hit counter and it worked...


Help!!! I'm so close to having this working and now this snag. Very
frustrating...


Roveer
 
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R

Ronx

Does Comcast allow subwebs in FrontPage websites? Some hosts insist on
creating the subweb themselves, or do not allow them at all.
 
R

Roveer

Does Comcast allow subwebs in FrontPage websites?  Some hosts insist on
creating the subweb themselves, or do not allow them at all.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp











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Very strange...

I'm trying to publish "manually" by going to groups of files at a
time. What I've found is that FP gives the "you do not have
permission" error on Large files (a couple of megs or bigger, or
groups of files that add up to larger file sizes. If I keep grabbing
small groups of files I seem to be able to publish them. Any idea
what this is? A website limitation?. If I publish the website (same
content) without a subweb it publishes just fine. If I switch things
around to have an empty web site with a subweb (containing the content
from my original website) then I get these permission errors. This is
very frustrating.

Roveer
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Have you open the live site in FP and then open or created the subweb you are trying to upload to?

If you are running into a upload size limitation, this would be an issue you will have to deal with
Comcast on. However the FP extensions do have a 1 MB individual file upload limit that is a default,
but can be changed by the web host.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


Does Comcast allow subwebs in FrontPage websites? Some hosts insist on
creating the subweb themselves, or do not allow them at all.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp











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Very strange...

I'm trying to publish "manually" by going to groups of files at a
time. What I've found is that FP gives the "you do not have
permission" error on Large files (a couple of megs or bigger, or
groups of files that add up to larger file sizes. If I keep grabbing
small groups of files I seem to be able to publish them. Any idea
what this is? A website limitation?. If I publish the website (same
content) without a subweb it publishes just fine. If I switch things
around to have an empty web site with a subweb (containing the content
from my original website) then I get these permission errors. This is
very frustrating.

Roveer
 
R

Roveer

Have you open the live site in FP and then open or created the subweb youare trying to upload to?

If you are running into a upload size limitation, this would be an issue you will have to deal with
Comcast on. However the FP extensions do have a 1 MB individual file upload limit that is a default,
but can be changed by the web host.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPagehttp://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================






Very strange...

I'm trying to publish "manually" by going to groups of files at a
time.  What I've found is that FP gives the "you do not have
permission" error on Large files (a couple of megs or bigger, or
groups of files that add up to larger file sizes.  If I keep grabbing
small groups of files I seem to be able to publish them.  Any idea
what this is?  A website limitation?.  If I publish the website (same
content) without a subweb it publishes just fine.  If I switch things
around to have an empty web site with a subweb (containing the content
from my original website) then I get these permission errors.  This is
very frustrating.

Roveer- Hide quoted text -

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Have you open the live site in FP and then open or created the subweb youare trying to upload to?

Yes, that seemed to be the only way to get the subweb directory on the
host. I then went back and tried to publish to it and it starts the
publish but then stops with the permissions error (I'm guessing at the
1mb files). But these files publish with no problem when I'm not
using a subweb. What I did was turn my normal website into a subweb
so I can get a new home page without messing up all the navigation on
my original page, but now I'm in publishing hell.

I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTP just
to see what happens. If the subweb works (functionality wise). I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors. What a
nightmare. Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes. Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.

Roveer
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

Using FTP is most likely going to corrupt the FP server extensions, so be
prepared to have them reinstalled.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTP just
to see what happens. If the subweb works (functionality wise). I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors. What a
nightmare. Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes. Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.

Roveer
 
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R

Roveer

Using FTP is most likely going to corrupt the FP server extensions, so be
prepared to have them reinstalled.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
 http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTP just
to see what happens.  If the subweb works (functionality wise).  I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors.  What a
nightmare.  Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes.  Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.

Roveer


FTP'ng the site (hidden dir's and _vti's and all) gave me a working
site. comcast seems not to allow subsites with files over 1mb (for
whatever reason). I got a x10hosting site which allowed me to
manually upload the files with FTP including > 1mb and the site seems
to work. Not sure why subwebs giving me such a problem, and I'm
concerned about what will happen when I try to publish to my live
site.

Help me understand FP extensions. Can I screw these up trying to
publish or are they located elsewhere on the server? If I can screw
them up, how do I fix them?

Roveer
 
R

Ronx

Using FTP to upload the site may corrupt the extensions. Uploading the
_vti* folders with FTP will 100% corrupt the extensions.

If you have done this and the server runs on Unix the only recourse is
to remove the extensions from the site, use FTP to delete any _vti*
folders that remain after the extensions are removed, then re-install
the extensions. The subweb will have to be re-created on the server.
If the server is Windows you may get away with simply reinstalling the
extensions, then running Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks on the server
(not your local web). However, the subweb may have to be redone.

The contents of the _vti* folders form part of the FP extensions. These
are small text files, but some have extensions such as .jpg, .gif, etc
that FTP clients will assume are binary files - this results in instant
corruption when uploading to a Unix server. The contents of the files
are unique to each server, the contents on your local web are not the
same as on the server - this is another form of corruption if they are
copied from one web to another.

FrontPage NEVER uploads _vti* files and folders - these are always
created and updated on the server during the Publishing process.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Using FTP is most likely going to corrupt the FP server extensions, so be
prepared to have them reinstalled.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
 http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTP just
to see what happens.  If the subweb works (functionality wise).  I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors.  What a
nightmare.  Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes.  Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.

Roveer


FTP'ng the site (hidden dir's and _vti's and all) gave me a working
site. comcast seems not to allow subsites with files over 1mb (for
whatever reason). I got a x10hosting site which allowed me to
manually upload the files with FTP including > 1mb and the site seems
to work. Not sure why subwebs giving me such a problem, and I'm
concerned about what will happen when I try to publish to my live
site.

Help me understand FP extensions. Can I screw these up trying to
publish or are they located elsewhere on the server? If I can screw
them up, how do I fix them?

Roveer
 
R

Roveer

Using FTP to upload the site may corrupt the extensions.  Uploading the
_vti* folders with FTP will 100% corrupt the extensions.

If you have done this and the server runs on Unix the only recourse is
to remove the extensions from the site, use FTP to delete any _vti*
folders that remain after the extensions are removed, then re-install
the extensions.  The subweb will have to be re-created on the server.
If the server is Windows you may get away with simply reinstalling the
extensions, then running Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks on the server
(not your local web).  However, the subweb may have to be redone.

The contents of the _vti* folders form part of the FP extensions.  These
are small text files, but some have extensions such as .jpg, .gif, etc
that FTP clients will assume are binary files - this results in instant
corruption when uploading to a Unix server.  The contents of the files
are unique to each server, the contents on your local web are not the
same as on the server - this is another form of corruption if they are
copied from one web to another.

FrontPage NEVER uploads _vti* files and folders - these are always
created and updated on the server during the Publishing process.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Using FTP is most likely going to corrupt the FP server extensions, so be
prepared to have them reinstalled.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
 http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTP just
to see what happens.  If the subweb works (functionality wise).  I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors.  What a
nightmare.  Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes.  Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.
Roveer
FTP'ng the site (hidden dir's and _vti's and all) gave me a working
site.  comcast seems not to allow subsites with files over 1mb (for
whatever reason).  I got a x10hosting site which allowed me to
manually upload the files with FTP including > 1mb and the site seems
to work.  Not sure why subwebs giving me such a problem, and I'm
concerned about what will happen when I try to publish to my live
site.
Help me understand FP extensions.  Can I screw these up trying to
publish or are they located elsewhere on the server?  If I can screw
them up, how do I fix them?
Roveer- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tanks for the post. For whatever reason, my FTP seems to have
provided me with a good result. Luckily this is only on a "test"
location. It's a comcast.net cable modem subscriber freebie site.

Question: How do I re-install FP extensions? Just want to understand
that a little better.

Kind of surprised that my site is working. I'm am able to publish
from FP the main web, but not the subweb. Subweb I am doing via FTP
and it seems to work. I'm hoping / praying when I go to my live
website I will be able to publish without the permission errors, but
want to be ready (having the knowledge), about FP extensions before I
do. Any help concerning how they work, or more importantly how to re-
install them if I foob them up is appreciated.

Roveer
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

or more importantly how to re-
install them if I foob them up is appreciated.

Roveer
 
R

Ronx

The extensions can be reinstalled either by asking your host, or by
using the Control Panel provided by your host.


This page lists all the folders and file types within your FrontPage
website - some pages or folders may not be in your site:

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/FP-Folders.htm

This page details those components that require the extensions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281532/



The extensions are a collection of CGI programs that add functionality
to the web site - this functionality includes ease of Publishing, form
handling, hit counter etc.

If you don't need the features then you don't need the extensions. If
the extensions are corrupted then the features provided by them will
cease to function, though the rest of the website or subweb will
continue as normal.

You can use FTP to upload a subweb - but the extensions in the subweb
may be destroyed or corrupted. This will not effect the extensions in
the main web. If you wish to use FTP *and* retain the extensions then
follow these 4 rules - they look simple, but are VERY HARD to follow in
practice:

1) Only FTP single files - that is one file at a time

2) NEVER FTP a folder

3) NEVER even *think* about uploading a folder with a name starting
_vti, or anything in that folder. FrontPage permanently hides these,
and *never* uploads, downloads or Imports them.

4) When finished with FTP, open the site you FTPed to in FrontPage and
run Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks. This updates the meta data stored in
the extensions.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Using FTP to upload the site may corrupt the extensions.  Uploading the
_vti* folders with FTP will 100% corrupt the extensions.

If you have done this and the server runs on Unix the only recourse is
to remove the extensions from the site, use FTP to delete any _vti*
folders that remain after the extensions are removed, then re-install
the extensions.  The subweb will have to be re-created on the server.
If the server is Windows you may get away with simply reinstalling the
extensions, then running Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks on the server
(not your local web).  However, the subweb may have to be redone.

The contents of the _vti* folders form part of the FP extensions.  These
are small text files, but some have extensions such as .jpg, .gif, etc
that FTP clients will assume are binary files - this results in instant
corruption when uploading to a Unix server.  The contents of the files
are unique to each server, the contents on your local web are not the
same as on the server - this is another form of corruption if they are
copied from one web to another.

FrontPage NEVER uploads _vti* files and folders - these are always
created and updated on the server during the Publishing process.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




On Aug 26, 5:53 pm, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
Using FTP is most likely going to corrupt the FP server extensions, so be
prepared to have them reinstalled.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
 http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTP just
to see what happens.  If the subweb works (functionality wise).  I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors.  What a
nightmare.  Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes.  Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.

FTP'ng the site (hidden dir's and _vti's and all) gave me a working
site.  comcast seems not to allow subsites with files over 1mb (for
whatever reason).  I got a x10hosting site which allowed me to
manually upload the files with FTP including > 1mb and the site seems
to work.  Not sure why subwebs giving me such a problem, and I'm
concerned about what will happen when I try to publish to my live
site.
Help me understand FP extensions.  Can I screw these up trying to
publish or are they located elsewhere on the server?  If I can screw
them up, how do I fix them?
Roveer- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tanks for the post. For whatever reason, my FTP seems to have
provided me with a good result. Luckily this is only on a "test"
location. It's a comcast.net cable modem subscriber freebie site.

Question: How do I re-install FP extensions? Just want to understand
that a little better.

Kind of surprised that my site is working. I'm am able to publish
from FP the main web, but not the subweb. Subweb I am doing via FTP
and it seems to work. I'm hoping / praying when I go to my live
website I will be able to publish without the permission errors, but
want to be ready (having the knowledge), about FP extensions before I
do. Any help concerning how they work, or more importantly how to re-
install them if I foob them up is appreciated.

Roveer
 
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R

Roveer

The extensions can be reinstalled either by asking your host, or by
using the Control Panel provided by your host.

This page lists all the folders and file types within your FrontPage
website - some pages or folders may not be in your site:

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/FP-Folders.htm

This page details those components that require the extensions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281532/

The extensions are a collection of CGI programs that add functionality
to the web site - this functionality includes ease of Publishing, form
handling, hit counter etc.

If you don't need the features then you don't need the extensions.  If
the extensions are corrupted then the features provided by them will
cease to function, though the rest of the website or subweb will
continue as normal.

You can use FTP to upload a subweb - but the extensions in the subweb
may be destroyed or corrupted.  This will not effect the extensions in
the main web.  If you wish to use FTP *and* retain the extensions then
follow these 4 rules - they look simple, but are VERY HARD to follow in
practice:

1) Only FTP single files - that is one file at a time

2) NEVER FTP a folder

3) NEVER even *think* about uploading a folder with a name starting
_vti, or anything in that folder.  FrontPage permanently hides these,
and *never* uploads, downloads or Imports them.

4)  When finished with FTP, open the site you FTPed to in FrontPage and
run Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks.  This updates the meta data stored in
the extensions.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp




Using FTP to upload the site may corrupt the extensions.  Uploadingthe
_vti* folders with FTP will 100% corrupt the extensions.
If you have done this and the server runs on Unix the only recourse is
to remove the extensions from the site, use FTP to delete any _vti*
folders that remain after the extensions are removed, then re-install
the extensions.  The subweb will have to be re-created on the server.
If the server is Windows you may get away with simply reinstalling the
extensions, then running Tools->Recalculate Hyperlinks on the server
(not your local web).  However, the subweb may have to be redone.
The contents of the _vti* folders form part of the FP extensions.  These
are small text files, but some have extensions such as .jpg, .gif, etc
that FTP clients will assume are binary files - this results in instant
corruption when uploading to a Unix server.  The contents of the files
are unique to each server, the contents on your local web are not the
same as on the server - this is another form of corruption if they are
copied from one web to another.
FrontPage NEVER uploads _vti* files and folders - these are always
created and updated on the server during the Publishing process.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

On Aug 26, 5:53 pm, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"
Using FTP is most likely going to corrupt the FP server extensions, so be
prepared to have them reinstalled.
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
"You're a daisy if you do!"
---
FrontPage Support:
 http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
I've stripped the subweb down and am trying to publish it via FTPjust
to see what happens.  If the subweb works (functionality wise). I'm
going to try to publish it to my live host location and I'm praying I
wont' have to go through all of these publishing errors.  What a
nightmare.  Doesn't help when comcast's servers disconnect every 2
minutes.  Taking 30-40 minutes just to FTP 1.4 megs.
Roveer
FTP'ng the site (hidden dir's and _vti's and all) gave me a working
site.  comcast seems not to allow subsites with files over 1mb (for
whatever reason).  I got a x10hosting site which allowed me to
manually upload the files with FTP including > 1mb and the site seems
to work.  Not sure why subwebs giving me such a problem, and I'm
concerned about what will happen when I try to publish to my live
site.
Help me understand FP extensions.  Can I screw these up trying to
publish or are they located elsewhere on the server?  If I can screw
them up, how do I fix them?
Roveer- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Tanks for the post.  For whatever reason, my FTP seems to have
provided me with a good result.  Luckily this is only on a "test"
location.  It's a comcast.net cable modem subscriber freebie site.
Question:  How do I re-install FP extensions?  Just want to understand
that a little better.
Kind of surprised that my site is working.  I'm am able to publish
from FP the main web, but not the subweb.  Subweb I am doing via FTP
and it seems to work.  I'm hoping / praying when I go to my live
website I will be able to publish without the permission errors, but
want to be ready (having the knowledge), about FP extensions before I
do.  Any help concerning how they work, or more importantly how to re-
install them if I foob them up is appreciated.
Roveer- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just wanted to put a follow-up to this thread. I was sucessful in
creating a sub-web to get all of my navigation working with a new top
page. Attempts to publish this to my comcast freebie website and a
x10hosting website bombed because it wouldn't allow large file
uploads. But... Posting to my hosted website when without a hitch.
All worked and looks great. No frontpage errors. Thanks to those who
helped!
 

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