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Jim
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I'm running the 64-bit versio of Vista RTM, and it ROCKS! Verything is
SO much faster! I previously had a clean XP32 installation on this
system, then reinstalled when Vista appeared on MSDN. It's an
absolutely flying machine.
Admittedly I have good hardware (all my Widows Experience scores are
5.9 except the disk, which is 5.1) but the difference is astounding.
Even running IE7 x64 is better than IE7 x86.
Jim
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xfile
I envy you.
Don't forget to order the DVD when you purchase the retail version; it won't
be included in the box.
I'm running the 64-bit versio of Vista RTM, and it ROCKS! Verything is
SO much faster! I previously had a clean XP32 installation on this
system, then reinstalled when Vista appeared on MSDN. It's an
absolutely flying machine.
Admittedly I have good hardware (all my Widows Experience scores are
5.9 except the disk, which is 5.1) but the difference is astounding.
Even running IE7 x64 is better than IE7 x86.
Jim[/QUOTE]
Don't forget to order the DVD when you purchase the retail version; it won't
be included in the box.
Jim said:
I'm running the 64-bit versio of Vista RTM, and it ROCKS! Verything is
SO much faster! I previously had a clean XP32 installation on this
system, then reinstalled when Vista appeared on MSDN. It's an
absolutely flying machine.
Admittedly I have good hardware (all my Widows Experience scores are
5.9 except the disk, which is 5.1) but the difference is astounding.
Even running IE7 x64 is better than IE7 x86.
Jim[/QUOTE]
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EdricFilho
First the licence limiting reinstalls, now this... "Order separately" means
more delays to get the thing...
MS urgently needs a CCO (Chief Common sense Officer)...
They surely have their reasons, but and all enthusiasts/power users who
upgraded their machines to 64-bit just for that????
more delays to get the thing...
MS urgently needs a CCO (Chief Common sense Officer)...
They surely have their reasons, but and all enthusiasts/power users who
upgraded their machines to 64-bit just for that????
[/QUOTE]xfile said:
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xfile
LOL,
CCO?
Good thinking, I will borrow that term and maybe use it for my resume
someday.
CCO?
Good thinking, I will borrow that term and maybe use it for my resume
someday.
[/QUOTE]EdricFilho said:
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David Wilkinson
[/QUOTE]xfile said:
At least for the Business version, and IMHO for the others, this seems
like a very bad decision. Isn't it in everybody's interests to hasten
the move to 64-bit?
David Wilkisnon
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Mark Rae
I certainly do agree with that. I have 64-bit Vista Business installed on a
second partition on an AMD DualCore box with 4Gb RAM, and it certainly does
seem to be much faster than XP Pro.
Problem is I have an nVidia GeForce 6800 graphics card, and the Microsoft
drivers are absolute rubbish. nVidia has got as far as RC2 drivers, but they
still crash with alarming regularity, causing a BSOD in nvlddmkm.sys.
I'll be waiting until Microsoft have patched up Visual Studio.NET 2005
sufficiently so they actually support it before finally ditching XP but, if
nVidia haven't sorted out their driver problems by then, I'll have no choice
but to get another graphics card.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...GLG,GGLG:2006-28,GGLG:en&q=Vista+nvlddmkm.sys
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Jim
I guess I was lucky. I have a 7900 GTX card, and the built-in nVidia
drivers seem to be excellent. I've yet to experience any crashes in
Vista, whether I'm playing game (Flight Sim) or running Virtual Server
etc.
As for Visual Studio. I have some applications which are developed
under Visual Studio 6, so Ive got an XP VM for that, running under
Virtual Server 2005. It works well.
Jim
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Mark Rae
I guess so because, as I understand it, the problem lies with SLI...
Yes indeed - in fact, that's Microsoft's "official" solution to supporting
previous versions of their development suites...
However, I make a living exclusively with Visual Studio.NET 2005 (apart from
a couple of legacy apps which are installed on virtual machines) so there is
no merit whatever in deploying Vista if it means I have to spend 95% of my
time using XP Pro in a virtual machine...
No - I'll wait till February (or whenever the VS.NET patch is actually
released) and review the situation then.
However, I'm favouring more and more the idea of replacing my graphics card.
Vista has been available to hardware developers for long enough now, so
Microsoft and/or nVidia really should have produced reliable drivers by
now...
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Colin Barnhorst
If you are referring to the limitation on transfers, that has been rescinded
as noted recently in the ng.
as noted recently in the ng.
[/QUOTE]EdricFilho said:
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Colin Barnhorst
If it were me I'd really push and include the x64 dvd and make 'em get x86
by mail. Kidding of course. But that's how I feel about it.
At least for the Business version, and IMHO for the others, this seems
like a very bad decision. Isn't it in everybody's interests to hasten the
move to 64-bit?
David Wilkisnon[/QUOTE]
by mail. Kidding of course. But that's how I feel about it.
David Wilkinson said:
At least for the Business version, and IMHO for the others, this seems
like a very bad decision. Isn't it in everybody's interests to hasten the
move to 64-bit?
David Wilkisnon[/QUOTE]
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Robert Moir
Mark said:
Producing drivers is down to the vendor, not Microsoft, so nVidia have to
take a hit on this one I would say, as ATI seem to be coping, and that isn't
bad what with the slight corporate re-org they've gone through recently.
Of course, nVidia are only one driver release away from stability nirvana
and ATI are only one driver release away from the stability of a Windows ME
system being operated outside in a thunderstorm. In an open system case.
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Colin Barnhorst
Windows ME = Wintendo.
Robert Moir said:
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EdricFilho
The world knows they did! That's my comment: after pissing everyone off,
they "rescinded". Then it comes "no 64-bit version". Everyone gets upset,
then they "rescind it".
Like I said, lack of a CCO...
they "rescinded". Then it comes "no 64-bit version". Everyone gets upset,
then they "rescind it".
Like I said, lack of a CCO...
[/QUOTE]Colin Barnhorst said:
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Robert Moir
Colin said:Windows ME = Wintendo.
Uh huh. Once placed a wav file of the original sonic the hedgehog theme on
someone's computer to drive that point home in my usual.. uh.. direct
manner.
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Mark Rae
Not arguing with you on that point, but the effect is the same for me
irrespective of the cause...!
I'd like to think so. However, like I said, it's not as if they haven't had
the DDK version of Vista since early alpha (as have all the other "major"
hardware manufacturers), so the fact that their current drivers are still so
awful augurs ill in my opinion...
Which, I have to say, is a little puzzling because their drivers for 64-bit
WinXP are superb...
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Mirko
David Wilkinson said:
At least for the Business version, and IMHO for the others, this seems
like a very bad decision. Isn't it in everybody's interests to hasten the
move to 64-bit?
David Wilkisnon[/QUOTE]
Maybe Microsoft fears that if they put both DVDs in the package too many
unexperienced computer users would call up their hotlines and involve
Microsoft's staff in long-lasting discussions about which version they
should install on their more or less capable PC's. Also the question "where
do I get 64-bit drivers for hardware X" could keep the hotlines busy. After
all, Microsoft can't deny support to users who have bought the retail
version of their product.
However, anyone who explicitly orders the 64-bit DVD probably knows if/why
he/she really needs it.
If the statement of Mr. Ed Bott turns out to be true, then I hope that
ordering the 64-bit version DVD will at least be totally free of charge for
customers.
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Robert Moir
Mirko said:
Discussions prior to install might not be so much the problem as discussions
halfway through install where it becomes clear that rather more of a change
than the user expected is going to happen. Or after install when the PC
boots, sure, but no peripherals have driver support yet.
I hope the disks are free to licenced users that want them, too, but to be
honest I can see it hurt as much as help if they were bundled in the packs
the average user gets.
rob
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John Barnes
Since Darrell said that you can only run the 64-bit upgrade from the 64-bit
desktop and the 32-bit from the 32-bit desktop, there should be no real
confusion. It works or it tells them they have the wrong disk.
desktop and the 32-bit from the 32-bit desktop, there should be no real
confusion. It works or it tells them they have the wrong disk.
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Colin Barnhorst
And let's don't forget about the sales staff who give advice to buyers in
the outlets. That will be an interesting source for confusion, I betcha.
the outlets. That will be an interesting source for confusion, I betcha.