firewire and pin count

[Guest]

I am trying to get my firewire card, IEEE1394 fireware cable and Sony digital
DCR-TEV730 camera to work with my MM software. The device (camera) is not
showing. Can anyone explain this pin 4 or 6 count and could that be my
problem.

Howe can I check my computer if I am not sure of the brand of the firewire
card. It has 2 Firewire ports and 3 USB2 ports. the usb ports work fine.
Help anyone thanks. JC

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

The 4 pins carry the video signal... the extra 2 are for power. But power
isn't needed to run a camcorder as it has it's battery or is plugged in, so
camcorders usually don't use 6 pin connections.... the key is to fit the
connections together.. 4 or 6 are the same with regards to the video signal.

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[John Kelly]

Rino its Complete drivel....

A 6 pin cable caries vidseo signal as well as a power supply. 4pin cable do not
have the power supply. Some devices require a power supply. I do not know of
any DV camera that requires it. If you have no firewire devices that need a
power supply buy the 4 pin version...its all you need.

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[Guest]

Hey JC,
Why can not you come out and tell JK that the smaller 4 pins plug can not make good contact if you inserted it from the rear? This
is your thread --- control it well and lastly don't forget to thanks the one who gave you the best answers or suggestions. If you
can do it ---> this is the only way to grow and reach maturity.

--Rino


I am trying to get my firewire card, IEEE1394 fireware cable and Sony digital
DCR-TEV730 camera to work with my MM software. The device (camera) is not
showing. Can anyone explain this pin 4 or 6 count and could that be my
problem.

Howe can I check my computer if I am not sure of the brand of the firewire
card. It has 2 Firewire ports and 3 USB2 ports. the usb ports work fine.
Help anyone thanks. JC

 

[John Kelly]

Rino,

You are quite a silly person......go take a look at both types of cable and
learn.
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[Jamie Furlong]

Rino,

You are quite a silly person......go take a look at both types of cable and
learn.

For anyone confused about all this firewire stuff, refer to the
following two diagrams and comparisons:
http://www.mycableshop.com/techarticles/FirewireCabling.htm
http://www.frontx.com/cpx105_2.html

 

[John Kelly]

Brilliant, a great example...many thanks

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[Guest]

I know you JK, you want to be famous but you're cornered and you chose to called me by many names and that is character
killing --- if you still don't know it. Is this your good etiquette in this forum?

Focus on that 1394 cable and NOT on me --- if I follow your etiquette I can call you s2pedo if you know it.

JK said: "If you have no firewire devices that need a power supply buy the 4 pin version...its all you need." -- You're 100%
wrong!

If you don't know and I tell you now that most FireWire card has 6 wired pins BIG female sockets. You should buy or use a 6 pins
1394 male plug or cable to match that BIG hole socket and if you use a 4 pins plug or cable you can NOT makes good electrical
contact and it will come off. Now, I'll also match the correct size and pins for the other end of 1394 cable uses to connect to
the DV Camera. Most DV Camera used 4 pins. Therefore; You must only buy or use 6 to 4 pins 1394 cable. I know you're confused on
this logical way of using a FireWire cable. Oh boy, you don't know me BUT I can forgive you.

Most latest PC has 4 pins FireWire at the front and all you have to do is to match the correct size or pins and NOT according to
your NEEDs of power supply for the devices. So, a 4 to 4 pins cable is correct and ONLY if it could be match.

I knew all along that 6 has power and 4 has not BUT who cares? Or can you control it?
I cared more on matching the correct size than finding it impossible to use by your assumption.

I waited long enough for others to come forward to say something. Is this your way of saying this forum is fine? I can see
everybody are afraid of you JK and they all thoughts you're an expert around here.

I hope we can forgive each other and let bygone be gone forever.

Sincerely & All The Best,

--Rino


Rino,

You are quite a silly person......go take a look at both types of cable and
learn.
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[John Kelly]

Rino,

I have only read the first few words of your reply as it seems to be following
the normal stupid route of your previous remarks...the reason no one other than
James Furlong bothered to answer you (with a perfectly good description of the
two types of cable) is that they either can not be bothered because they see
what kind of a person you are or they realise that your english is so bad that
they can see you will not understand the reply.....

Here is my reply AGAIN....if you continue with this useless outporing of drivel
you will finally confirm that you are little more than a trouble maker.

A 6 pin cable caries video signals as well as a power supply. 4pin cable do not
have the power supply. Some devices require a power supply. I do not know of
any DV camera that requires it. If you have no firewire devices that need a
power supply buy the 4 pin version...its all you need.

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[Guest]

Stupid JK, how can a 4 pins go to a 6 pins socket? Even now you're confused what more if you upgrade to 1394b, 488, Serial ATA
150, DVI, HDMI, etc?


Rino,

I have only read the first few words of your reply as it seems to be following
the normal stupid route of your previous remarks...the reason no one other than
James Furlong bothered to answer you (with a perfectly good description of the
two types of cable) is that they either can not be bothered because they see
what kind of a person you are or they realise that your english is so bad that
they can see you will not understand the reply.....

Here is my reply AGAIN....if you continue with this useless outporing of drivel
you will finally confirm that you are little more than a trouble maker.

A 6 pin cable caries video signals as well as a power supply. 4pin cable do not
have the power supply. Some devices require a power supply. I do not know of
any DV camera that requires it. If you have no firewire devices that need a
power supply buy the 4 pin version...its all you need.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk
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[John Kelly]

Stupid JK, how can a 4 pins go to a 6 pins socket? Even now you're confused
what more if you upgrade to 1394b, 488, Serial ATA
150, DVI, HDMI, etc?

You are getting more and more wild with your replies...what does a SATA drive
have to do with this. I reallydo think you need to go back on to your sedatives
or whatever other medication your doctor thinks you are taking. I'm sorry Rino,
I think you are in the process of cracking up...you apparently do not
understand the concept of a pin missing, or as some might call it a blind pin.
You were even shown the diagrams by another user and STILL you insist in your
relentless gibberish....go and have a rest man before you have sort sort of
seizure

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