Files missing at startup

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Bart Bailey

No. XP has been out for almost three years and I have been using 2000
since January only; I used 98 SE before that. And I would still be using
98 if I hadn't been able to acquire 2000 for free (legally). And I had
to get rid of my Pentium III 500 to do someone a favor (sounds weird,
but you will just have to believe me). That's why I have a fast Athlon
now. I probably wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
I have absolutely no intention to switch to XP because I consider it to
be the worst piece of miserable shit that has ever seen the light of the
day (after IE). Perhaps I will have to switch one day, when 2000 becomes
too obsolete. But I dread that day.

Similar story here;
Got a fair deal on a used system that came with XP-Pro on it. I use it
for multimedia because it plays a lot of formats, but wouldn't dream of
connecting it to the net. when I corrupted the OS during an fdisk
blunder (making the 40gb into a 15 & 25 for ghosting purposes) I
re-installed the XP-Pro, but not the XP office, nor Norton IS 2003.
I haven't even bothered trying to finagle it to take SP2 since it's not
ever going online.
As far as any of the current media formats becoming obsolete, that's not
much concern either, because I have enough material in good old mp3 to
last me into perpetuity.
 
B

Bart Bailey

As an aside when I look at the logs for the web site I manage and see
95 to 99 percent of the hits come from IE there's very little
incentive from me to support other browsers.

You talking about the claymania site logs?
Maybe because it's predominately IE users that come here in distress
and get referred over there. ;-)
or this one?
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
check those logs now ;-)
 
B

Bart Bailey

Creating a modern web site with all the bells and whistles that
renders properly in all browsers isn't a simple task and in some case
the client doesn't want to pay for the other one percent.

Bells and whistles sounds like a polite way of saying "garish
extravagance", typically used as a distraction for a sales pitch.
 
K

kurt wismer

Pop Rivet wrote:
[snip]
You make me sorry I liked your site when I checked it out;
it's great infor for newbies. IMO, your comment about IE is
condescending, egocentric, self-serving, and otherwise
uncalled for.

time to wake up and smell the coffee... even CERT is advising the use
of IE alternatives...
 
K

kurt wismer

Jeffrey said:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:24:10 +0200, Frederic Bonroy

[Snip]

The way out of this dilemma is standards compliant HTML.
If a browser won't work with compliant HTML then you and your visitors
have a good reason to shun it.


Who's standards the World Wide Web consortium's, Microsoft's,
Mozilla's?

W3C is a standards body, microsoft and mozilla.org are not... the
answer to that question is a no-brainer...
Part of the problem that browser developers have
implemented the standards slightly differently ways or have
implemented their own version of the standard or chosen to add
extensions to the standard that only work in their browser.

Creating a modern web site with all the bells and whistles that
renders properly in all browsers isn't a simple task and in some case
the client doesn't want to pay for the other one percent.

then they aren't paying for a web page, they're paying for a web
application...
 
C

Craig

Pop said:
...


is loaded


because all



You make me sorry I liked your site when I checked it out;
it's great infor for newbies. IMO, your comment about IE is
condescending, egocentric, self-serving, and otherwise
uncalled for. You are probably talking to someone whith
zero familiarity with adware, IE alternatives which aren't
necessary, and so on, so all you're doing is causing bad
feelings for the poster and possibly his innocent daughter.

I will resist recommending your site to anyone because of
this; there are plenty of other ones just as well written
and more concise.

Too bad,

Pop

Have you considered switching your brand of laxative?
 
C

Craig

Pop said:
exactly what I


any sense at



If you mean what you said here, I feel sorry for you; you
can't read. I don't really care whether you can "reconcile"
it or not - you've now made our "no-visit" lists due to your
closed mindedness. You'll never miss us, we're small, but
you'll also never see any of us there. When we surpass
1,000 hits/day consistantly, I'll come back and give you the
URL.
Cheers,
Pop

Really. I think your problem is that you use a bad laxative and it is
doing something to your brain.
 
C

Craig

Pop said:
and FireFox


I am aware of


that hole was


browsers don't


months, and



No, IE has been defraulted to its most functional states.
The fact that you CANNOT do things with those other browsers
makes them undesirable IMO, and if I want THAT kind of
capability, it's readily available in IE. Why would I want
to use something crippled like that? I'll bet that at the
same time you deride IE, you also still go out ande buy the
latest OS, PC, and peripherals just because they exist: As
in, progress for the sake of progress? That kind of
attitude is actually a wart on the ass of progress to put it
succinctly.
Shortly, you are going to notice that the tide is turning
to other browsers too as the bad boys & kiddies become more
and more proficient and looking to make names for
themselves. Can you imagine the paper headlines and the
pride that kiddie will feel? It'sstarting: Stand by.

Maybe it is not your laxative and you are merely insane.
Have you given any serous thought to just killing yourself?
 
C

Craig

Pop said:
vulnerabilities that IE brings to


The key word being "has", which is past tense. Keep
reading.

LOL - You are one amusing uppity little scamp.
You have some funny notion about tense. - But then you do seem a bit
tense. If changing your laxative does not work I think that killing
yourself to be the next best option.
 
F

Frederic Bonroy

Bart said:
You talking about the claymania site logs?
Maybe because it's predominately IE users that come here in distress
and get referred over there. ;-)

Hehe... :) Clay, any statistics on browser usage?
 
F

Frederic Bonroy

Craig said:
Have you considered switching your brand of laxative?

How come you are so obsessed with laxatives? I'm setting a follow-up to
the appropriate newsgroup.
 
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Gabriele Neukam

On that special day, Frederic Bonroy, ([email protected]) said...
Opera is lying on my
hard disk just as a back-up in case Mozilla won't work for some reason.
I found it way too annoying and unstable in day-to-day use.

I am using Opera on a regular basis. But the unstability you mentioned,
is still there. To me it appears that it can't "digest" bad JavaScript
coding, because there are sites that will cause an error, and Opera has
to be shut down. The sites are always the same ones.


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
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Frederic Bonroy

Gabriele said:
I am using Opera on a regular basis. But the unstability you mentioned,
is still there. To me it appears that it can't "digest" bad JavaScript
coding, because there are sites that will cause an error, and Opera has
to be shut down. The sites are always the same ones.

Well, it does have a couple of advantages such as user agent spoofing
and the ability to switch off image loading with a single click. And
it's more secure than Microsoft's weapons of mass infection.
 
B

Bart Bailey

On that special day, Frederic Bonroy, ([email protected]) said...


I am using Opera on a regular basis. But the unstability you mentioned,
is still there. To me it appears that it can't "digest" bad JavaScript
coding, because there are sites that will cause an error, and Opera has
to be shut down. The sites are always the same ones.
Which version of Opera, pre or post v7?
which site?
I haven't found any crashers yet, but always looking.
 
F

Frederic Bonroy

Bart said:
Which version of Opera, pre or post v7?

As far as I am concerned, version 7. Version 6.0x was okay to use a few
years ago when IE was just as dangerous as it is now and Mozilla was
even more bloated than it is now...
I haven't found any crashers yet, but always looking.

Crashes were rare, but I frequently stumbled over pages that failed to
load (I really mean "load", not "render")
 
B

Bart Bailey

Well, it does have a couple of advantages such as user agent spoofing
and the ability to switch off image loading with a single click. And
it's more secure than Microsoft's weapons of mass infection.

The internal capacity for User-Agent spoofing is limited to the addition
of others but doesn't eliminate the inclusion of "Opera" as was recently
mentioned in an article here.
 

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