File sharing between XP Home and OS X 10.5

M

Munkeyjunkey

Ok, I am having an issue where I can't connect either way between my
iMac and my Toshiba Satellite M50. Before I had my mac and laptop
wired to the wireless router but due to shifting around they are both
connecting wirelessly. When they were wired I had set it up so that I
was able to browse files both ways. Now I can't do that anymore nor
play networked games locally because the mac isn't being found. The
mac has no difficulty accessing the internet same with the laptop. I
had set up file sharing in OS X and set up the firewall properly. I
don't know what else to do, what changed and why is it giving me so
much grief?
 
M

Malke

Munkeyjunkey said:
Ok, I am having an issue where I can't connect either way between my
iMac and my Toshiba Satellite M50. Before I had my mac and laptop
wired to the wireless router but due to shifting around they are both
connecting wirelessly. When they were wired I had set it up so that I
was able to browse files both ways. Now I can't do that anymore nor
play networked games locally because the mac isn't being found. The
mac has no difficulty accessing the internet same with the laptop. I
had set up file sharing in OS X and set up the firewall properly. I
don't know what else to do, what changed and why is it giving me so
much grief?

Probably you have a security program installed on Windows that has
firewalled your wireless connection. I just saw this on a client's laptop
with McAfee (dreadful program). It had some sort of "wireless security"
module.

Malke
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

Probably you have a security program installed on Windows that has
firewalled your wireless connection. I just saw this on a client's laptop
with McAfee (dreadful program). It had some sort of "wireless security"
module.

Malke

I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.
 
M

Malke

I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.

Avast Free doesn't have a firewall component. If you have the paid version,
perhaps it does. Something else has changed because it normally doesn't
matter if you connect wired or wirelessly on the same Local Area Network if
sharing is set up correctly.

On Windows, do Start>Run>ipconfig /all [enter] and post the results from the
wireless connection. We're looking for the computer's IP address and the
Gateway address.

On OS X, you will find this information in System Preferences/Network.

If a firewall isn't the issue (and we don't know that yet), perhaps you set
up your wireless router and forgot to change the default SSID and your
laptop is now connecting to someone else's "Linksys". This is just a guess
on my part.

Also, if you are using MAC filtering on your router you should disable it.
It really doesn't give extra security and that would be the reason why you
can't see the XP laptop since its wireless adapter has a different MAC
address than its ethernet adapter.

Malke
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.

Avast Free doesn't have a firewall component. If you have the paid version,
perhaps it does. Something else has changed because it normally doesn't
matter if you connect wired or wirelessly on the same Local Area Network if
sharing is set up correctly.

On Windows, do Start>Run>ipconfig /all [enter] and post the results from the
wireless connection. We're looking for the computer's IP address and the
Gateway address.

On OS X, you will find this information in System Preferences/Network.

If a firewall isn't the issue (and we don't know that yet), perhaps you set
up your wireless router and forgot to change the default SSID and your
laptop is now connecting to someone else's "Linksys". This is just a guess
on my part.

Also, if you are using MAC filtering on your router you should disable it..
It really doesn't give extra security and that would be the reason why you
can't see the XP laptop since its wireless adapter has a different MAC
address than its ethernet adapter.

Malke

Ok, I am 100% certain that I am connecting to the correct SSID and I
don't have MAC filtering on. We don't have any firewalls installed
other than the ones that come with OS X and Windows XP. I have the
most up to date firmware installed for my D-Link WBR 2310 Version A
wireless router.

XP settings:

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless
2915ABG Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-7C-B1-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August 27, 2008 4:43:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : July 23, 2010 3:22:43 AM

OS X settings:

IP: 192.168.0.107
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

Thanks
 
M

Malke

Munkeyjunkey said:
Munkeyjunkey said:
Munkeyjunkey wrote:
Ok, I am having an issue where I can't connect either way between my
iMac and my Toshiba Satellite M50.  Before I had my mac and laptop
wired to the wireless router but due to shifting around they are
both connecting wirelessly.  When they were wired I had set it up so
that I was able to browse files both ways.  Now I can't do that
anymore nor play networked games locally because the mac isn't being
found.  The mac has no difficulty accessing the internet same with
the laptop.  I had set up file sharing in OS X and set up the
firewall properly.  I don't know what else to do, what changed and
why is it giving me so much grief?
Probably you have a security program installed on Windows that has
firewalled your wireless connection. I just saw this on a client's
laptop with McAfee (dreadful program). It had some sort of "wireless
security" module.
I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.

Avast Free doesn't have a firewall component. If you have the paid
version, perhaps it does. Something else has changed because it normally
doesn't matter if you connect wired or wirelessly on the same Local Area
Network if sharing is set up correctly.

On Windows, do Start>Run>ipconfig /all [enter] and post the results from
the wireless connection. We're looking for the computer's IP address and
the Gateway address.

On OS X, you will find this information in System Preferences/Network.

If a firewall isn't the issue (and we don't know that yet), perhaps you
set up your wireless router and forgot to change the default SSID and
your laptop is now connecting to someone else's "Linksys". This is just a
guess on my part.

Also, if you are using MAC filtering on your router you should disable
it. It really doesn't give extra security and that would be the reason
why you can't see the XP laptop since its wireless adapter has a
different MAC address than its ethernet adapter.

Malke

Ok, I am 100% certain that I am connecting to the correct SSID and I
don't have MAC filtering on. We don't have any firewalls installed
other than the ones that come with OS X and Windows XP. I have the
most up to date firmware installed for my D-Link WBR 2310 Version A
wireless router.

XP settings:

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless
2915ABG Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-7C-B1-43
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August 27, 2008 4:43:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : July 23, 2010 3:22:43 AM

OS X settings:

IP: 192.168.0.107
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

Well, you're on the same subnet. Are you sure you've allowed the wireless
connection on your Mac and if you have Leopard that you're using the SMB
protocol and not AFP? It sounds to me like you've got the Mac's firewall
misconfigured. Can you ping each machine from the other?

In Windows:
Start>Run>cmd [enter]
ping 192.168.0.107 [enter]

In OS X, run Terminal and
ping 192.168.0.102 [enter]

Before you get further into all of that, disable both the Mac's and the XP's
firewalls. If you can now connect, you know something is set wrong. You'll
be safe for this test since you're behind a router and you're not going
surfing.

Malke
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

Munkeyjunkey said:
Munkeyjunkey wrote:
Munkeyjunkey wrote:
Ok, I am having an issue where I can't connect either way betweenmy
iMac and my Toshiba Satellite M50.  Before I had my mac and laptop
wired to the wireless router but due to shifting around they are
both connecting wirelessly.  When they were wired I had set it up so
that I was able to browse files both ways.  Now I can't do that
anymore nor play networked games locally because the mac isn't being
found.  The mac has no difficulty accessing the internet same with
the laptop.  I had set up file sharing in OS X and set up the
firewall properly.  I don't know what else to do, what changed and
why is it giving me so much grief?
Probably you have a security program installed on Windows that has
firewalled your wireless connection. I just saw this on a client's
laptop with McAfee (dreadful program). It had some sort of "wireless
security" module.
I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.
Avast Free doesn't have a firewall component. If you have the paid
version, perhaps it does. Something else has changed because it normally
doesn't matter if you connect wired or wirelessly on the same Local Area
Network if sharing is set up correctly.
On Windows, do Start>Run>ipconfig /all [enter] and post the results from
the wireless connection. We're looking for the computer's IP address and
the Gateway address.
On OS X, you will find this information in System Preferences/Network.
If a firewall isn't the issue (and we don't know that yet), perhaps you
set up your wireless router and forgot to change the default SSID and
your laptop is now connecting to someone else's "Linksys". This is just a
guess on my part.
Also, if you are using MAC filtering on your router you should disable
it. It really doesn't give extra security and that would be the reason
why you can't see the XP laptop since its wireless adapter has a
different MAC address than its ethernet adapter.
Malke
Ok, I am 100% certain that I am connecting to the correct SSID and I
don't have MAC filtering on.  We don't have any firewalls installed
other than the ones that come with OS X and Windows XP.  I have the
most up to date firmware installed for my D-Link WBR 2310 Version A
wireless router.
XP settings:
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless
2915ABG Network Connection
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-7C-B1-43
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August 27, 2008 4:43:43 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : July 23, 2010 3:22:43 AM
OS X settings:
IP: 192.168.0.107
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1

Well, you're on the same subnet. Are you sure you've allowed the wireless
connection on your Mac and if you have Leopard that you're using the SMB
protocol and not AFP? It sounds to me like you've got the Mac's firewall
misconfigured. Can you ping each machine from the other?

In Windows:
Start>Run>cmd [enter]
ping 192.168.0.107 [enter]

In OS X, run Terminal and
ping 192.168.0.102 [enter]

Before you get further into all of that, disable both the Mac's and the XP's
firewalls. If you can now connect, you know something is set wrong. You'll
be safe for this test since you're behind a router and you're not going
surfing.

Malke

I am using SMB and not AFP. I can ping back and forth, and the funny
thing is after pinging xp from os x I am able to access the shares on
xp but shortly after it loses the connection. at the same time the xp
won't connect to the os x. I have not tried the firewall test but I
will tomorrow and let you know how it goes. any idea why this would
be happening (the pinging thing)?
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

Munkeyjunkey said:
Munkeyjunkey wrote:
Munkeyjunkey wrote:
Ok, I am having an issue where I can't connect either way between my
iMac and my Toshiba Satellite M50.  Before I had my mac and laptop
wired to the wireless router but due to shifting around they are
both connecting wirelessly.  When they were wired I had set it up so
that I was able to browse files both ways.  Now I can't do that
anymore nor play networked games locally because the mac isn't being
found.  The mac has no difficulty accessing the internet samewith
the laptop.  I had set up file sharing in OS X and set up the
firewall properly.  I don't know what else to do, what changed and
why is it giving me so much grief?
Probably you have a security program installed on Windows that has
firewalled your wireless connection. I just saw this on a client's
laptop with McAfee (dreadful program). It had some sort of "wireless
security" module.
I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.
Avast Free doesn't have a firewall component. If you have the paid
version, perhaps it does. Something else has changed because it normally
doesn't matter if you connect wired or wirelessly on the same Local Area
Network if sharing is set up correctly.
On Windows, do Start>Run>ipconfig /all [enter] and post the results from
the wireless connection. We're looking for the computer's IP addressand
the Gateway address.
On OS X, you will find this information in System Preferences/Network.
If a firewall isn't the issue (and we don't know that yet), perhaps you
set up your wireless router and forgot to change the default SSID and
your laptop is now connecting to someone else's "Linksys". This is just a
guess on my part.
Also, if you are using MAC filtering on your router you should disable
it. It really doesn't give extra security and that would be the reason
why you can't see the XP laptop since its wireless adapter has a
different MAC address than its ethernet adapter.
Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ -http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Ok, I am 100% certain that I am connecting to the correct SSID and I
don't have MAC filtering on.  We don't have any firewalls installed
other than the ones that come with OS X and Windows XP.  I have the
most up to date firmware installed for my D-Link WBR 2310 Version A
wireless router.
XP settings:
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless
2915ABG Network Connection
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-7C-B1-43
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August 27, 2008 4:43:43 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : July 23, 2010 3:22:43 AM
OS X settings:
IP: 192.168.0.107
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Well, you're on the same subnet. Are you sure you've allowed the wireless
connection on your Mac and if you have Leopard that you're using the SMB
protocol and not AFP? It sounds to me like you've got the Mac's firewall
misconfigured. Can you ping each machine from the other?
In Windows:
Start>Run>cmd [enter]
ping 192.168.0.107 [enter]
In OS X, run Terminal and
ping 192.168.0.102 [enter]
Before you get further into all of that, disable both the Mac's and theXP's
firewalls. If you can now connect, you know something is set wrong. You'll
be safe for this test since you're behind a router and you're not going
surfing.

I am using SMB and not AFP.  I can ping back and forth, and the funny
thing is after pinging xp from os x I am able to access the shares on
xp but shortly after it loses the connection.  at the same time the xp
won't connect to the os x.  I have not tried the firewall test but I
will tomorrow and let you know how it goes.  any idea why this would
be happening (the pinging thing)?

Actually I did have AFP on, I turned it off and will give it a go.
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

Munkeyjunkeywrote:
Munkeyjunkeywrote:
Munkeyjunkeywrote:
Ok, I am having an issue where I can't connect either way between my
iMac and my Toshiba Satellite M50.  Before I had my mac andlaptop
wired to the wireless router but due to shifting around they are
both connecting wirelessly.  When they were wired I had setit up so
that I was able to browse files both ways.  Now I can't do that
anymore nor play networked games locally because the mac isn't being
found.  The mac has no difficulty accessing the internet same with
the laptop.  I had set up file sharing in OS X and set up the
firewall properly.  I don't know what else to do, what changed and
why is it giving me so much grief?
Probably you have a security program installed on Windows that has
firewalled your wireless connection. I just saw this on a client's
laptop with McAfee (dreadful program). It had some sort of "wireless
security" module.
I have Avast Anti-Virus running, I'll take a look, thanks.
Avast Free doesn't have a firewall component. If you have the paid
version, perhaps it does. Something else has changed because it normally
doesn't matter if you connect wired or wirelessly on the same Local Area
Network if sharing is set up correctly.
On Windows, do Start>Run>ipconfig /all [enter] and post the results from
the wireless connection. We're looking for the computer's IP address and
the Gateway address.
On OS X, you will find this information in System Preferences/Network.
If a firewall isn't the issue (and we don't know that yet), perhaps you
set up your wireless router and forgot to change the default SSID and
your laptop is now connecting to someone else's "Linksys". This isjust a
guess on my part.
Also, if you are using MAC filtering on your router you should disable
it. It really doesn't give extra security and that would be the reason
why you can't see the XP laptop since its wireless adapter has a
different MAC address than its ethernet adapter.
Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ -http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Ok, I am 100% certain that I am connecting to the correct SSID and I
don't have MAC filtering on.  We don't have any firewalls installed
other than the ones that come with OS X and Windows XP.  I have the
most up to date firmware installed for my D-Link WBR 2310 Version A
wireless router.
XP settings:
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless
2915ABG Network Connection
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-7C-B1-43
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August 27, 20084:43:43 PM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : July 23, 2010 3:22:43 AM
OS X settings:
IP: 192.168.0.107
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Well, you're on the same subnet. Are you sure you've allowed the wireless
connection on your Mac and if you have Leopard that you're using the SMB
protocol and not AFP? It sounds to me like you've got the Mac's firewall
misconfigured. Can you ping each machine from the other?
In Windows:
Start>Run>cmd [enter]
ping 192.168.0.107 [enter]
In OS X, run Terminal and
ping 192.168.0.102 [enter]
Before you get further into all of that, disable both the Mac's and the XP's
firewalls. If you can now connect, you know something is set wrong. You'll
be safe for this test since you're behind a router and you're not going
surfing.
Malke
I am using SMB and not AFP.  I can ping back and forth, and the funny
thing is after pinging xp from os x I am able to access the shares on
xp but shortly after it loses the connection.  at the same time the xp
won't connect to the os x.  I have not tried the firewall test but I
will tomorrow and let you know how it goes.  any idea why this would
be happening (the pinging thing)?

Actually I did have AFP on, I turned it off and will give it a go.

It seems whenever I start transferring files over to my laptop from my
mac a few minutes later I lose the connection every time. Turning off
AFP didn't seem to change anything and you can't turn off the OS X
firewall and all I have on my laptop is windows firewall.
 
M

Malke

Munkeyjunkey said:
It seems whenever I start transferring files over to my laptop from my
mac a few minutes later I lose the connection every time. Turning off
AFP didn't seem to change anything and you can't turn off the OS X
firewall and all I have on my laptop is windows firewall.

Absolutely you can turn off the OS X Firewall. Go to System
Preferences>Security>Firewall and click the radio button for "Allow all
incoming connections". I have mine set to "Set access for specific services
and applications" which includes File Sharing (SMB) but since you're having
problems, set it to "Allow all..".

Malke
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

Munkeyjunkeywrote:

Absolutely you can turn off the OS X Firewall. Go to System
Preferences>Security>Firewall and click the radio button for "Allow all
incoming connections". I have mine set to "Set access for specific services
and applications" which includes File Sharing (SMB) but since you're having
problems, set it to "Allow all..".

Malke

Oh, I already had it set at that. When I leave ping running on my mac
I am able to successfully connect to my laptop and transfer files, but
only if I leave it running. If I stop it I lose the connection
shortly thereafter. What's with that?
 
M

Malke

Munkeyjunkey said:
Oh, I already had it set at that. When I leave ping running on my mac
I am able to successfully connect to my laptop and transfer files, but
only if I leave it running. If I stop it I lose the connection
shortly thereafter. What's with that?

I honestly am out of ideas for you. It's obvious to me that you've got
something set up wrong but without being able to see the machines, I can't
guess. Consider having a knowledgeable friend or professional come on-site
to set you up properly. I have no issues sharing files between machines
running OS X, Linux, Vista Ult., XP Pro, and XP Home so I know this is
normally easy.

I'm sorry that I was unable to help you.

Malke
 
M

Munkeyjunkey

Munkeyjunkeywrote:

I honestly am out of ideas for you. It's obvious to me that you've got
something set up wrong but without being able to see the machines, I can't
guess. Consider having a knowledgeable friend or professional come on-site
to set you up properly. I have no issues sharing files between machines
running OS X, Linux, Vista Ult., XP Pro, and XP Home so I know this is
normally easy.

I'm sorry that I was unable to help you.

Malke

That's ok. thanks for all the help.
 

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