Faxing via DSL

[Guest]

Isit possible to send a fax via Windows XP with a DSL connection? When I had
dialup it was easy to send a fax but I cannot figure it out with DSL. Please
advise.
G118

 

[Yves Leclerc]

DSL modems DO NOT have fax modules in them. You will need to use a regular
dial-up modem or subscribe to an Internet fax service.

 

[R. McCarty]

Faxing isn't possible with ADSL. About the only practical solution is to
simply attach the material to an email. Otherwise almost all ISP's allow
for dial-up hours along with ADSL. You could add a modem and setup
a connectoid for just fax use. It's a fair amount of work to get that
ability
and a Stand-Alone fax machine might be easier.

 

[Leythos]

Faxing isn't possible with ADSL. About the only practical solution is to
simply attach the material to an email. Otherwise almost all ISP's allow
for dial-up hours along with ADSL. You could add a modem and setup
a connectoid for just fax use. It's a fair amount of work to get that
ability
and a Stand-Alone fax machine might be easier.

Since the ADSL line on most connections allows for use as a regular phone
line, all the user needs is a splitter and the micro-filter, one set off
the splitter goes to the DSL line (without the filter) and the other side
of the splitter (with micro-filter) connects to the Modem in the computer.
You can then use the ADSL line and the Fax modem at the same time.

 

[Guest]

Not with DSL. Attach the document to an email to transmit.

 

[David H. Lipman]

| On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:39:56 +0000, R. McCarty wrote:
|
|| Faxing isn't possible with ADSL. About the only practical solution is to
|| simply attach the material to an email. Otherwise almost all ISP's allow
|| for dial-up hours along with ADSL. You could add a modem and setup
|| a connectoid for just fax use. It's a fair amount of work to get that
|| ability
|| and a Stand-Alone fax machine might be easier.
|
| Since the ADSL line on most connections allows for use as a regular phone
| line, all the user needs is a splitter and the micro-filter, one set off
| the splitter goes to the DSL line (without the filter) and the other side
| of the splitter (with micro-filter) connects to the Modem in the computer.
| You can then use the ADSL line and the Fax modem at the same time.
|
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And if you use a FAX switch you can send/receive FAXes on the same Audio POTS line as DSL
without needing a second, dedicated, POTS line for FAX. I have been using an ASAP TF-555
FAX switch for years and have had no problems.

With my one POTS line with ADSL from Verizon, I send/receive FAXes, receive Caller ID info,
use the telephone and perform v.90 DUN connections.

 

[Leythos]

| On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:39:56 +0000, R. McCarty wrote:
|
|| Faxing isn't possible with ADSL. About the only practical solution is to
|| simply attach the material to an email. Otherwise almost all ISP's allow
|| for dial-up hours along with ADSL. You could add a modem and setup
|| a connectoid for just fax use. It's a fair amount of work to get that
|| ability
|| and a Stand-Alone fax machine might be easier.
|
| Since the ADSL line on most connections allows for use as a regular phone
| line, all the user needs is a splitter and the micro-filter, one set off
| the splitter goes to the DSL line (without the filter) and the other side
| of the splitter (with micro-filter) connects to the Modem in the computer.
| You can then use the ADSL line and the Fax modem at the same time.
|

And if you use a FAX switch you can send/receive FAXes on the same Audio POTS line as DSL
without needing a second, dedicated, POTS line for FAX. I have been using an ASAP TF-555
FAX switch for years and have had no problems.

With my one POTS line with ADSL from Verizon, I send/receive FAXes, receive Caller ID info,
use the telephone and perform v.90 DUN connections.

But a ADSL line IS a regular phone line and DSL service all in the same
line - it's two functions at the SAME TIME on the SAME LINE. That means
that you can run a DSL modem on the line, and with a phone line splitter
you can also connect a phone/fax/modem as long as it has the micro-filter,
and use both the DSL connection on the computer and the FAX on the
computers modem - at the same time - no need for a switch.

 

[R. McCarty]

Sure you can use both ADSL & a modem with the appropriate filters.
Just after setting up the Dial-Up connectoid, make sure that XP knows
to not try and dial for I-Net. Set the Connection applet to "Never Dial
a Connection."

 

[David H. Lipman]

| On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:21:17 -0500, David H. Lipman wrote:
|| And if you use a FAX switch you can send/receive FAXes on the same Audio POTS line as
|| DSL without needing a second, dedicated, POTS line for FAX. I have been using an ASAP
|| TF-555 FAX switch for years and have had no problems.
||
|| With my one POTS line with ADSL from Verizon, I send/receive FAXes, receive Caller ID
|| info, use the telephone and perform v.90 DUN connections.
|
| But a ADSL line IS a regular phone line and DSL service all in the same
| line - it's two functions at the SAME TIME on the SAME LINE. That means
| that you can run a DSL modem on the line, and with a phone line splitter
| you can also connect a phone/fax/modem as long as it has the micro-filter,
| and use both the DSL connection on the computer and the FAX on the
| computers modem - at the same time - no need for a switch.
|
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| (e-mail address removed)
| remove 999 in order to email me


Leythos:

The FAX switch handles incoming FAXes. Otherwise how can you tell if an incoming call was a
FAX or voice call ? The FAX switch handles this well. Mine is setup to monitor the the
third ring. If you called me me using a telephone, you would hear two nomal rings but the
third would be different. It is between Ring1 and Ring2 that the Caller ID is received.
The FAX switch then determines if the incoming call is a voice call or a FAX call. If it is
a voice cal the switch routes the call to a telephone and answering machine. If it is a FAX
call then it is redirected to a FAX device. Note that Caller ID must be captured before the
FAX switch to catch the info. sent between Ring1 and Ring2.

In addition, because the third ring sounds different to the caller than Ring1 and Ring2,
recorded telepone junk calls often get thwarted.

 

[Leythos]

| On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:21:17 -0500, David H. Lipman wrote:
|| And if you use a FAX switch you can send/receive FAXes on the same Audio POTS line as
|| DSL without needing a second, dedicated, POTS line for FAX. I have been using an ASAP
|| TF-555 FAX switch for years and have had no problems.
||
|| With my one POTS line with ADSL from Verizon, I send/receive FAXes, receive Caller ID
|| info, use the telephone and perform v.90 DUN connections.
|
| But a ADSL line IS a regular phone line and DSL service all in the same
| line - it's two functions at the SAME TIME on the SAME LINE. That means
| that you can run a DSL modem on the line, and with a phone line splitter
| you can also connect a phone/fax/modem as long as it has the micro-filter,
| and use both the DSL connection on the computer and the FAX on the
| computers modem - at the same time - no need for a switch.
|
| --
| (e-mail address removed)
| remove 999 in order to email me


Leythos:

The FAX switch handles incoming FAXes. Otherwise how can you tell if an incoming call was a
FAX or voice call ? The FAX switch handles this well. Mine is setup to monitor the the
third ring. If you called me me using a telephone, you would hear two nomal rings but the
third would be different. It is between Ring1 and Ring2 that the Caller ID is received.
The FAX switch then determines if the incoming call is a voice call or a FAX call. If it is
a voice cal the switch routes the call to a telephone and answering machine. If it is a FAX
call then it is redirected to a FAX device. Note that Caller ID must be captured before the
FAX switch to catch the info. sent between Ring1 and Ring2.

In addition, because the third ring sounds different to the caller than Ring1 and Ring2,
recorded telepone junk calls often get thwarted.

I see what you mean by a fax switch now. I have distinctive ring on my fax
line too, but I also have a external fax machine that makes use of that.
If the phone rings and it's not a fax, the fax pass-through will trigger
the answering machine.

I had though you were saying that he needed a fax switch in order to use
the fax modem. Many people use the fax modem to just send faxes. Thanks
for expanding the explanation.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, G118.

The missing piece in trying to fax from DSL is not the phone line - it's the
dialer. The hardware that can make those little noises that the phone
system understands and converts to the destination phone number.

A dial-up modem, naturally, has a dialer built in, so it can dial. It can
call your ISP - or it can dial your Mom's voice phone - or your customer's
fax number. But with DSL, the computer is "always on". There's no need to
dial your ISP or anybody else, so the DSL modem has no dialer built in, so
there's no way to dial the fax number you are trying to reach.

I've not heard of anyone who makes a DSL modem that includes a dialer (or
fax). You'll probably need to add a fax modem PCI card to your computer.
It can then use the fax modem on the POST side of the same phone line -
while you are surfing the 'net on the DSL side. Just like we can carry on a
voice conversation on the same line while browsing or emailing.

RC

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Isit possible to send a fax via Windows XP with a DSL
connection?

No.


When I had dialup it was easy to send a fax but I cannot figure
it
out with DSL. Please advise.

You can use a separate FAX modem, or use one of the
internet-based fax services available.