Faxing Having DSL vs No Dial Tone

[Bob Holiday]

I recently switched from dial-up to DSL. Using WinXP's built-in faxing
capabilities, how do I now get my internal dial-up modem to dial for faxing
purposes, now that I have DSL? Or can I somehow fax through DSL? WinXP
faxing worked fine when I had dial-up internet service. But now when I
attempt to send a fax, I get error messages that there's no dial tone. What
do I need to set or re-set?

Thanks!

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Faxing can only use analog phone lines. Therefore, sending a fax by DSL
requires one of two methods:

1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
telephone to the DSL line, then connect a regular analog fax modem to the
line through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, as does
your local Radio Shack store:

http://www.radioshack.com/category....4_004_002_000&Page=1&find=dsl filter(keyword)

2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:

http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#internetfax
Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
http://www.savetz.com/fax/
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?

 

[Bob Holiday]

1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice

telephone to the DSL line, then connect a regular analog fax modem to the
line through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, as
does your local Radio Shack store:

Yep, I've already got extra filters. Looks like I'll have to hook up a fax
modem, per your instructions--I suppose there's no way I can use the
internal fax modem that's already in my computer? True, I did cancel my
dial-up service when I got DSL, but I'm just wondering if there's a
work-around in order to use my existing internal fax modem. I'd really like
to avoid an internet fax service because of the charges to send faxes--I do
already have e-fax which is free, but free only to receive faxes (see item
#2 below). It works great.

Thanks for the help, Russ, and for taking the trouble of posting all the
links below, which were really interesting reading.

http://www.radioshack.com/category....4_004_002_000&Page=1&find=dsl filter(keyword)

2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:

http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#internetfax
Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
http://www.savetz.com/fax/
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?


--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I recently switched from dial-up to DSL. Using WinXP's built-in faxing
capabilities, how do I now get my internal dial-up modem to dial for
faxing
purposes, now that I have DSL? Or can I somehow fax through DSL? WinXP
faxing worked fine when I had dial-up internet service. But now when I
attempt to send a fax, I get error messages that there's no dial tone.
What
do I need to set or re-set?

Thanks!

 

[Tod]

Is the phone line even still connected to the dial up modem ?

Faxing is direct dial.
Go to "start"-"setting"-"control panel"-"phone and modem options".
Make sure the setting are correct.

you might need to disconnect (hang up) from your DSL ISP before attempting
faxing ?

You can also use your Internet connection and have some Internet faxing
service send the fax for you.

 

[David Candy]

Cause you can use your internal modem. Your modem, if no longer using dialup, is doing nothing. It has nothing to do with dsl.

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http://www.uscricket.com

1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
telephone to the DSL line, then connect a regular analog fax modem to the
line through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, as
does your local Radio Shack store:

Yep, I've already got extra filters. Looks like I'll have to hook up a fax
modem, per your instructions--I suppose there's no way I can use the
internal fax modem that's already in my computer? True, I did cancel my
dial-up service when I got DSL, but I'm just wondering if there's a
work-around in order to use my existing internal fax modem. I'd really like
to avoid an internet fax service because of the charges to send faxes--I do
already have e-fax which is free, but free only to receive faxes (see item
#2 below). It works great.

Thanks for the help, Russ, and for taking the trouble of posting all the
links below, which were really interesting reading.

http://www.radioshack.com/category....4_004_002_000&Page=1&find=dsl filter(keyword)

2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:

http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#internetfax
Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
http://www.savetz.com/fax/
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?


--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I recently switched from dial-up to DSL. Using WinXP's built-in faxing
capabilities, how do I now get my internal dial-up modem to dial for
faxing
purposes, now that I have DSL? Or can I somehow fax through DSL? WinXP
faxing worked fine when I had dial-up internet service. But now when I
attempt to send a fax, I get error messages that there's no dial tone.
What
do I need to set or re-set?

Thanks!

 

[Chuck]

The DSL connection we have at work has both DSL and analog capability. The
phone company supplied some sort of coupler/filter that has the analog line
split out. That in turn, connects to a FAX machine.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Indeed you would need to connect your fax modem to the analog line your
filter provides. I see no reason you couldn't use your internal fax modem
for that.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
telephone to the DSL line, then connect a regular analog fax modem to the
line through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, as
does your local Radio Shack store:

Yep, I've already got extra filters. Looks like I'll have to hook up a fax
modem, per your instructions--I suppose there's no way I can use the
internal fax modem that's already in my computer? True, I did cancel my
dial-up service when I got DSL, but I'm just wondering if there's a
work-around in order to use my existing internal fax modem. I'd really
like to avoid an internet fax service because of the charges to send
faxes--I do already have e-fax which is free, but free only to receive
faxes (see item #2 below). It works great.

Thanks for the help, Russ, and for taking the trouble of posting all the
links below, which were really interesting reading.

http://www.radioshack.com/category....4_004_002_000&Page=1&find=dsl filter(keyword)

2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:

http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#internetfax
Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
http://www.savetz.com/fax/
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?


--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I recently switched from dial-up to DSL. Using WinXP's built-in faxing
capabilities, how do I now get my internal dial-up modem to dial for
faxing
purposes, now that I have DSL? Or can I somehow fax through DSL? WinXP
faxing worked fine when I had dial-up internet service. But now when I
attempt to send a fax, I get error messages that there's no dial tone.
What
do I need to set or re-set?

Thanks!

 

[Miss Perspicacia Tick]

Is the phone line even still connected to the dial up modem ?

Faxing is direct dial.
Go to "start"-"setting"-"control panel"-"phone and modem options".
Make sure the setting are correct.

you might need to disconnect (hang up) from your DSL ISP before
attempting faxing ?

Of course not! Do you have to disconnect the phone before connecting via
DSL?!

 

[Mike Hall]

Set XP Fax to use the modem.. moving to DSL has probably knocked out the
connection from the settings..

 

[Bullwinkle. J. Moose]

I had set up 2 phone lines before I installed DSL. I kept both lines, the
second line is pretty cheap (I use Verizon in NY) so I run my DSL with my
regular phone line that I use for normal phone calls. The fax line is
connected to the second line. There is no conflict as it is a true separate
phone number.

Good luck.

Faxing can only use analog phone lines. Therefore, sending a fax by DSL
requires one of two methods:

1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
telephone to the DSL line, then connect a regular analog fax modem to the
line through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, as
does your local Radio Shack store:

http://www.radioshack.com/category....4_004_002_000&Page=1&find=dsl filter(keyword)

2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:

http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#internetfax
Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
http://www.savetz.com/fax/
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?


--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I recently switched from dial-up to DSL. Using WinXP's built-in faxing
capabilities, how do I now get my internal dial-up modem to dial for
faxing
purposes, now that I have DSL? Or can I somehow fax through DSL? WinXP
faxing worked fine when I had dial-up internet service. But now when I
attempt to send a fax, I get error messages that there's no dial tone.
What
do I need to set or re-set?

Thanks!

 

[Tod]

I do not use DSL, so I can only guess.

Of course not! Do you have to disconnect the phone before connecting via
DSL?!

 

[Bob Harris]

Consider this alternative:

Scan the item you want to FAX.

Save the scanned image as something common, like JPG, GIF, or even PDF (see
note below).

Send an email instead of a FAX, with the image attached.

Note on scanning to PDF: There are several PDF-print-drivers on the market,
some are even free. With these you print to a fake printer, called a PDF
driver. It asks you for a file name, and then saves a PDF of what would
have otherwise gone to paper. Once installed, these work from any windows
application that can print. My favorite is Broadgun's PDFmachine, but
others that work for me include CutePDF, and Virtual PDF printer. The
latter two are free, but do include a line on every PDF asking you to buy
them.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Consider this alternative:

Scan the item you want to FAX.

Save the scanned image as something common, like JPG, GIF, or
even
PDF (see note below).

Send an email instead of a FAX, with the image attached.

Unfortunately, there are many companies (and even individuals)
who require that certain things be faxed to them, and won't
accept E-mail instead (or perhaps don't even have E-mail
capability).

It seems to me that fax is old technology, and should be
replaced by E-mailing scanned documents, but I don't see any
signs of that happening.

 

[Jim Macklin]

If you use DSL or cable, you can still FAX from your
computer by connection a standard telephone line to a
standard modem, which is probably also installed in your
computer. It is a simple matter to assign the FAX to the
modem and the Internet to the NIC or USB.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


message | In | Bob Harris <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> typed:
|
| > Consider this alternative:
| >
| > Scan the item you want to FAX.
| >
| > Save the scanned image as something common, like JPG,
GIF, or
| > even
| > PDF (see note below).
| >
| > Send an email instead of a FAX, with the image attached.
|
|
| Unfortunately, there are many companies (and even
individuals)
| who require that certain things be faxed to them, and
won't
| accept E-mail instead (or perhaps don't even have E-mail
| capability).
|
| It seems to me that fax is old technology, and should be
| replaced by E-mailing scanned documents, but I don't see
any
| signs of that happening.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup
|
|

 

[Ken Blake]

In

If you use DSL or cable, you can still FAX from your
computer by connection a standard telephone line to a
standard modem, which is probably also installed in your
computer. It is a simple matter to assign the FAX to the
modem and the Internet to the NIC or USB.

Yes, of course, as I believe more than one person pointed out
earlier in this thread.

I didn't say otherwise; my post was meant to point out that Bob
Harris's suggestion of scanning and E-mailing a document instead
of faxing it doesn't necessarily work all the time. There are
those companies and individuals who insist on getting a fax, not
an E-mail message.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

message | In | Bob Harris <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> typed:
|
| > Consider this alternative:
| >
| > Scan the item you want to FAX.
| >
| > Save the scanned image as something common, like JPG, GIF,
or
| > even
| > PDF (see note below).
| >
| > Send an email instead of a FAX, with the image attached.
|
|
| Unfortunately, there are many companies (and even individuals)
| who require that certain things be faxed to them, and won't
| accept E-mail instead (or perhaps don't even have E-mail
| capability).
|
| It seems to me that fax is old technology, and should be
| replaced by E-mailing scanned documents, but I don't see any
| signs of that happening.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup

 

[David Candy]

One is a company called Microsoft. I had to fax them 2 years ago. And I could only fax. I had to do a screen shot of their web page, fax the web page in.

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http://www.uscricket.com

In

If you use DSL or cable, you can still FAX from your
computer by connection a standard telephone line to a
standard modem, which is probably also installed in your
computer. It is a simple matter to assign the FAX to the
modem and the Internet to the NIC or USB.

Yes, of course, as I believe more than one person pointed out
earlier in this thread.

I didn't say otherwise; my post was meant to point out that Bob
Harris's suggestion of scanning and E-mailing a document instead
of faxing it doesn't necessarily work all the time. There are
those companies and individuals who insist on getting a fax, not
an E-mail message.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

message | In | Bob Harris <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> typed:
|
| > Consider this alternative:
| >
| > Scan the item you want to FAX.
| >
| > Save the scanned image as something common, like JPG, GIF,
or
| > even
| > PDF (see note below).
| >
| > Send an email instead of a FAX, with the image attached.
|
|
| Unfortunately, there are many companies (and even individuals)
| who require that certain things be faxed to them, and won't
| accept E-mail instead (or perhaps don't even have E-mail
| capability).
|
| It seems to me that fax is old technology, and should be
| replaced by E-mailing scanned documents, but I don't see any
| signs of that happening.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup

 

[Ken Blake]

In

One is a company called Microsoft. I had to fax them 2 years
ago. And
I could only fax. I had to do a screen shot of their web page,
fax
the web page in.

I didn't mention it earlier, but I had exactly the same
experience with Microsoft about a year ago. They refused to
accept an E-mail message from me, and they required that I fax
them.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

In

If you use DSL or cable, you can still FAX from your
computer by connection a standard telephone line to a
standard modem, which is probably also installed in your
computer. It is a simple matter to assign the FAX to the
modem and the Internet to the NIC or USB.

Yes, of course, as I believe more than one person pointed out
earlier in this thread.

I didn't say otherwise; my post was meant to point out that
Bob
Harris's suggestion of scanning and E-mailing a document
instead
of faxing it doesn't necessarily work all the time. There are
those companies and individuals who insist on getting a fax,
not
an E-mail message.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

message | In | Bob Harris <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> typed:
|
| > Consider this alternative:
| >
| > Scan the item you want to FAX.
| >
| > Save the scanned image as something common, like JPG, GIF,
or
| > even
| > PDF (see note below).
| >
| > Send an email instead of a FAX, with the image attached.
|
|
| Unfortunately, there are many companies (and even
individuals)
| who require that certain things be faxed to them, and won't
| accept E-mail instead (or perhaps don't even have E-mail
| capability).
|
| It seems to me that fax is old technology, and should be
| replaced by E-mailing scanned documents, but I don't see any
| signs of that happening.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup

 

[tjdarth]

Hey Bob, I recently switched to DSL as well and ran into the same problem. I
found the solution to be going into Device manager and uninstalling the
modem. Shutdown and unplug the internal modem card and start the system up
again. Once this is accomplished, shut down the machine and reinstall the
internal modem. Connect your wall phone to the internal modem phone line,
use a second line from the modem jack and run it to the filter jack that
your DSL provider should have provided you with, and start your system.
Win-XP will recognize the new device and start his device install dance. If
you have installed Win-xp simple fax service you should be able to fax a
document after the reinstall of the fax device. . .Good luck Tom J.

 

[joh N]

begin Tod piddled around and finally wrote:

I do not use DSL, so I can only guess.

Ignore the waste of good air known as Miss Perspiration Stink. Notice she
provides no answer herself to the OP?

 

[Jim]

You are a true troll.You never have anything
constructive to say and you are always critical of others. Read some of your
posts. Your posts are mostly, if not all pure garbage. They speak for
themselves. Check them out. It seems most people agree with me.
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