Events Viewer Errors-djt

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dejotay

When looking at the events viewer in the 'applications' I have found recenlty
the following error messages attibuted to Outlook.
They are in pairs one says
'Failed to get the crawl scope manager with error=0x8001010d'
and the other
'Failed to determine if the store is in the crawl scope (error 0x8001010d)'
I have checked the times shown by each error message and they coincide with
the opening of Outlook.
What does this mean?
What can I do to prevent these error meaages appearing?
Do I need to be concerned?
Do they matter?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated
 
V

VanguardLH

dejotay said:
When looking at the events viewer in the 'applications' I have found recenlty
the following error messages attibuted to Outlook.
They are in pairs one says
'Failed to get the crawl scope manager with error=0x8001010d'
and the other
'Failed to determine if the store is in the crawl scope (error 0x8001010d)'
I have checked the times shown by each error message and they coincide with
the opening of Outlook.
What does this mean?
What can I do to prevent these error meaages appearing?
Do I need to be concerned?
Do they matter?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated

Google works:

http://www.google.com/search?q=+"crawl+scope"

First article in results list:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb266541(VS.85).aspx

Since you are posting in a Windows XP newsgroups, no point in discussing
Vista's included file indexer. You installed a file indexer in Windows
XP, like Microsoft's Desktop Search, Google's Desktop, Copernic, or
another file search utility (that goes around indexing all the files).
If a file is opened for exclusive access, like it needs write
permissions and not just read permissions, than another process cannot
access the file. Outlook wants read AND write access to its .pst file.
You have the file indexer configured to index your e-mails which means
it needs to read the .pst file. Yet Outlook has write permissions on
that file hence a conflict.

You could configure the file indexer to NOT search through your e-mails,
or to exclude the .pst file, or the folder containing the .pst file. Or
you could scheduled the indexer to run only when you are not using the
computer, like when you are sleeping, but that still requires you exit
Outlook rather than leave it loaded and merely minimized to a tray icon.

File indexers always get in the way. I don't know of any "desktop
search" programs that utilize the Volume Shadow Service in NT-based
versions of Windows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy) so they
can use a static copy of the file even when another process has the same
file open with write permissions.
 
D

dejotay

Hi,
Thank you for the advice I will look at this in depth and hopefuilly resolve
the problem.
As I am using Windows xp with SP3 (not Vista) perhaps the problem is being
caused by Microsoft Office 2007 which I have installed.
Does this added information affect your advice, if so your further comments
would be appreciated.
djt
 
V

VanguardLH

dejotay said:
As I am using Windows xp with SP3 (not Vista) perhaps the problem is
being caused by Microsoft Office 2007 which I have installed.

I don't have MS Office 2007. No bang-for-the-buck for me to move from
Office XP/2002. I don't think MS Search (they dropped Desktop from its
product title) comes in any distro of Office. That was something you
probably installed through the Windows Update site (but it should've
been a Recommended update and not a critical update offered through the
Automatic Updates service running in Windows). So I suspect you
visited the Windows Update site and let it install everything included
in an express update or you elected for a custom update but opted to
allow all the pre-checked items without reviewing them, so you got the
recommended updates rather than just the critical ones.

Did you look in the Add/Remove Programs applet to see if Microsoft
Search was installed? I don't have it so I'm not sure what Microsoft
used for its product title in the installed apps list. Rather than MS
Search product, maybe you installed their MSN Toolbar (that includes the
Search product).
 
D

dejotay

I have found 'Windows Desk Top Search' in add or remove programs and assume
that this is the program to which you refer.
As I only use the computer at home do I need indexing, if not may I uninstal
it safely without doing any damage?
If not I will just clear the tick box for outlook and outlook express (as
you suggestd)and take these items out of the equation.
I would prefer to uninstal it 'indexing' if possible.
What do you think.
Thank you for your continued help amd advice which is greatly appreciated.
djt
 
V

VanguardLH

dejotay said:
I have found 'Windows Desk Top Search' in add or remove programs and assume
that this is the program to which you refer.
As I only use the computer at home do I need indexing, if not may I uninstal
it safely without doing any damage?
If not I will just clear the tick box for outlook and outlook express (as
you suggestd)and take these items out of the equation.
I would prefer to uninstal it 'indexing' if possible.
What do you think.
Thank you for your continued help amd advice which is greatly appreciated.

If you can manage to store your files in an organizational manner then
you don't need a program to tell you where they are. Some folks still
like it to quickly find content within their documents. It is helpful
in a setup where multiple users are saving documents in the same path.
I've never found it faster to use a file indexer than to just go look at
my documents. Some people love it. Some people could care less. And
some find they want to get rid of it because it adds little value but
does add problems.

If you haven't used it so far or have found it of little value then why
bother keep it installed, consuming memory, flailing the heads around
the hard disks to read files, and causing problems if you don't use it?
 
D

dejotay

Thanks for your help-it is appreciated
djt

VanguardLH said:
If you can manage to store your files in an organizational manner then
you don't need a program to tell you where they are. Some folks still
like it to quickly find content within their documents. It is helpful
in a setup where multiple users are saving documents in the same path.
I've never found it faster to use a file indexer than to just go look at
my documents. Some people love it. Some people could care less. And
some find they want to get rid of it because it adds little value but
does add problems.

If you haven't used it so far or have found it of little value then why
bother keep it installed, consuming memory, flailing the heads around
the hard disks to read files, and causing problems if you don't use it?
 

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