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Frank Arthur
SamSez said:
Fine quality Chinese manufactured inks of uniform color quality
that cost approximately $2 per cartridge vs. Epson inks @ $14 ea.
Fine quality Chinese manufactured inks of uniform color quality
that cost approximately $2 per cartridge vs. Epson inks @ $14 ea.
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frederick
Have you tried the latest V4.2? Perhaps it can now reset the protectionTony said:
counter, but previous versions could not.
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Tony
frederick said:
I sent to http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml and scrolled down to and clicked on
Supported Printer Models and the R1800 is listed there.
Tony
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frederick
Tony said:
I haven't tried it recently - the last version I looked at the "ink
freezer" function worked, but it couldn't read the protection counter
levels, let alone reset the counters. IIRC there are two counters, with
cumulated total ~18,000.
There's two ** next to the entry in the SSC list of supported models,
apparently referring to the inability of the program to reset cartridge
chips.
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SamSez
And which, I'm guessing, 'fine quality' though they might be, cause more
cleaning cycles than would oem ink, running up the 'full pad' counter.
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Tony
SamSez said:
I believe that is impossible. The printer has no way of knowing what ink is
installed and the automatic cleaning cycles will occur at the same frequency
and duration that they would have with OEM ink. I have no preference for any
particular ink, OEM or compatible, and think people should make their own
decisions and live with the consequences and there are consequences both ways.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
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Ed Ruf
But, I'd imagine like my R800 it can detect clogged ports in the head
and then run it's own automatic cleaning cycles, no?
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Arthur Entlich
I think what "SamSez" is implying is that the inks may cause many more
user initiated cleaning cycles, and hence the ink pads being used up
more rapidly.
Art
user initiated cleaning cycles, and hence the ink pads being used up
more rapidly.
Art
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Arthur Entlich
I don't believe the R800 or R1800 have a way to determine a clogged
nozzle. The high end wide carriage professional models have some
sensors for this.
Art
nozzle. The high end wide carriage professional models have some
sensors for this.
Art
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Taliesyn
Ed said:
My Canon printer has like 1,856 "microscopic" nozzles, or whatever
number. I seriously doubt there's room in there to implant a sensor in
each nozzle to detect a clog! I believe what happens is that internal
printer software is programmed to trigger automatic cleaning cycles at
predetermined times - regardless of whether you have OEM ink, generic,
or chocolate syrup! In other words, it doesn't know and doesn't care;
cleaning cycles will remain the same. But you will be able to lick the
paper with the last choice!
-Taliesyn
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SamSez
exactly
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Frank Arthur
SamSez said:
Let's see. In a year and a half I spent about $300 on inks (@$2ea). If I
bought only
Epson inks it would have cost me at least $1,800(@$12ea.
Would the "full pad" counter have lasted longer than 18 months had I used
only Epson
inks?
The "Service" r3eplacement pads & reset, clean etc. was $85. Not bad!
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measekite
SamSez wrote:
"Frank Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote in news:BJJ1i.4655$ub.460 @bignews6.bellsouth.net:
Just curious -- what ink have you been using?
Fine quality Chinese manufactured inks of uniform color quality that cost approximately $2 per cartridge vs. Epson inks @ $14 ea.
And which, I'm guessing, 'fine quality' though they might be, cause more cleaning cycles than would oem ink, running up the 'full pad' counter.
And if the way they make Pet Food Additives over there it is obvious that they do not have good controls on mfg goods that they adhere to so one has no idea what is in many products. I would say that the largest export is clothing but it is much easier to tell the quality.
"Frank Arthur" <[email protected]> wrote in news:BJJ1i.4655$ub.460 @bignews6.bellsouth.net:
Just curious -- what ink have you been using?
Fine quality Chinese manufactured inks of uniform color quality that cost approximately $2 per cartridge vs. Epson inks @ $14 ea.
And which, I'm guessing, 'fine quality' though they might be, cause more cleaning cycles than would oem ink, running up the 'full pad' counter.
And if the way they make Pet Food Additives over there it is obvious that they do not have good controls on mfg goods that they adhere to so one has no idea what is in many products. I would say that the largest export is clothing but it is much easier to tell the quality.
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Tony
Art
That occurred to me also. Rightly or wrongly I decided that the poster was
unlikely to be highly complimentary about his chinese inks if he was always
running cleaning cycles.
As mentioned elsewhere in the thread this printer does not, to the best of my
knowledge, have the capability to detect blocked nozzles. That is, I believe, a
feature built into some more expensive printers.
Tony
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
That occurred to me also. Rightly or wrongly I decided that the poster was
unlikely to be highly complimentary about his chinese inks if he was always
running cleaning cycles.
As mentioned elsewhere in the thread this printer does not, to the best of my
knowledge, have the capability to detect blocked nozzles. That is, I believe, a
feature built into some more expensive printers.
Tony
Arthur Entlich said:
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
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Arthur Entlich
I would suspect that Epson inks or Chinese inks, having to do 150
initial purges ($300 in ink at $2 each would be 150 new cartridge
installs) would require a waste ink pad replacement regardless.
Yeah, I'd say paying $85 for a waste ink pad replacement on a printer
that's run through that much ink, and saved $1500-$1800 (I think you can
get Epson carts for about $12) and considering you probably would have
needed new waste ink pads regardless, that you certainly made a
reasonable investment. There are some features that the Epson inks may
provide that some people need (such as having long fade resistance and
being waterproof), but otherwise, the price differential makes the
choice a bit easier.
Art
initial purges ($300 in ink at $2 each would be 150 new cartridge
installs) would require a waste ink pad replacement regardless.
Yeah, I'd say paying $85 for a waste ink pad replacement on a printer
that's run through that much ink, and saved $1500-$1800 (I think you can
get Epson carts for about $12) and considering you probably would have
needed new waste ink pads regardless, that you certainly made a
reasonable investment. There are some features that the Epson inks may
provide that some people need (such as having long fade resistance and
being waterproof), but otherwise, the price differential makes the
choice a bit easier.
Art
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Arthur Entlich
Hi Tony,
Just to be clear about where I stand on this, I was just trying to
understand the logic on SamSez's part in his statement, I wasn't
supporting that the inks indeed were more or less likely to cause clogs,
and therefore cause more cleaning cycles to be initiated by the user.
I agree that to the best of my knowledge, the R800 doesn't have nozzle
block detection features.
Art
Just to be clear about where I stand on this, I was just trying to
understand the logic on SamSez's part in his statement, I wasn't
supporting that the inks indeed were more or less likely to cause clogs,
and therefore cause more cleaning cycles to be initiated by the user.
I agree that to the best of my knowledge, the R800 doesn't have nozzle
block detection features.
Art