Epson R1800 ICM profiling

G

Gordon MacPherson

Hi,
I have used Color Munki to generate a printer prifile for premium glossy
paper for my Epson R1800. In the printer properties box I can add this
profile to the list. The problem is that when I open the printer preferences
dialogue the new profile does not appear - there is howver a blank space
between "Epson standard" and the next. Does this space represent the
profile - or are there ways of getting it to appear.

Thanks,

Gordon
 
J

Joel

Gordon MacPherson said:
Hi,
I have used Color Munki to generate a printer prifile for premium glossy
paper for my Epson R1800. In the printer properties box I can add this
profile to the list. The problem is that when I open the printer preferences
dialogue the new profile does not appear - there is howver a blank space
between "Epson standard" and the next. Does this space represent the
profile - or are there ways of getting it to appear.

Thanks,

Gordon

Hmmmm I have used several different printer profiles under Photoshop, but
I don't remember where Windows kept the Printer Profiles. My suggestion
that you may try to use the built-in SEARCH option to locate the extension
of the other printer profile, then copy the Epson R1800 to the same folder
see if the program will see it or not.

Right now, I am using new installed Win7 and don't have everything setup
like I had with Windows XP yet to know where it keeps the profile.
 
J

Joel

Lon said:
Joel said:
Hmmmm I have used several different printer profiles under Photoshop, but
I don't remember where Windows kept the Printer Profiles. My suggestion
that you may try to use the built-in SEARCH option to locate the extension
of the other printer profile, then copy the Epson R1800 to the same folder
see if the program will see it or not.

Right now, I am using new installed Win7 and don't have everything setup
like I had with Windows XP yet to know where it keeps the profile.

I have a hunch there is something messed up in the profile itself, where
one way to figure it out might be to open the new one in something like
Spybot FileAlyzer and the good one and see if it is obvious. Might be
able to open them in NotePad++ hex edit plugin or some other hex editor
such as wxHexEditor. I'd check the name [inside the profile] of that
profile against one of the free Epson R1800 ones.

The epson profiles appear to have the printer model and then the name of
the profile offset roughly 300 or so bytes into the raw file.

SPR1800 DblSDMtte BstPhoto.icc is profile file name SPR 1800
DblSDmtteBstPhoto.icc in %windir%\system32\spool\drivers\color\ which
shows up as Double-Sided Matte Paper in the R1800 Properties, so suspect
you'll need to searc down further for the name string. NotePad++ Hex
plugin has better facilities for searching, but isnt as good a raw hex
editor as a few others. All are free from SourceForge.

That's not the type of printer profile I have experienced with. I am a
professional prographer so I work on photo for printing, and because I print
from different photolabs with different printer as well as photo paper etc..
So I download the printer profiles from Photolabs and load different printer
profile to Photoshop to match the photolab.

Not just changing the filename which I don't think it's a good idea, and I
don't think it will work out.

Also, I haven't checked but it's possible that Epson have the printer
profiles for their printers at their web site (just guessing).
 
J

Joel

Lon said:
Joel said:
Lon said:
Joel wrote:

Hi,
I have used Color Munki to generate a printer prifile for premium glossy
paper for my Epson R1800. In the printer properties box I can add this
profile to the list. The problem is that when I open the printer preferences
dialogue the new profile does not appear - there is howver a blank space
between "Epson standard" and the next. Does this space represent the
profile - or are there ways of getting it to appear.

Thanks,

Gordon
Hmmmm I have used several different printer profiles under Photoshop, but
I don't remember where Windows kept the Printer Profiles. My suggestion
that you may try to use the built-in SEARCH option to locate the extension
of the other printer profile, then copy the Epson R1800 to the same folder
see if the program will see it or not.

Right now, I am using new installed Win7 and don't have everything setup
like I had with Windows XP yet to know where it keeps the profile.
I have a hunch there is something messed up in the profile itself, where
one way to figure it out might be to open the new one in something like
Spybot FileAlyzer and the good one and see if it is obvious. Might be
able to open them in NotePad++ hex edit plugin or some other hex editor
such as wxHexEditor. I'd check the name [inside the profile] of that
profile against one of the free Epson R1800 ones.

The epson profiles appear to have the printer model and then the name of
the profile offset roughly 300 or so bytes into the raw file.

SPR1800 DblSDMtte BstPhoto.icc is profile file name SPR 1800
DblSDmtteBstPhoto.icc in %windir%\system32\spool\drivers\color\ which
shows up as Double-Sided Matte Paper in the R1800 Properties, so suspect
you'll need to searc down further for the name string. NotePad++ Hex
plugin has better facilities for searching, but isnt as good a raw hex
editor as a few others. All are free from SourceForge.

That's not the type of printer profile I have experienced with. I am a
professional prographer so I work on photo for printing, and because I print
from different photolabs with different printer as well as photo paper etc..
So I download the printer profiles from Photolabs and load different printer
profile to Photoshop to match the photolab.

Not just changing the filename which I don't think it's a good idea, and I
don't think it will work out.

Also, I haven't checked but it's possible that Epson have the printer
profiles for their printers at their web site (just guessing).

Epson has profiles for their papers available for all their printers at
their website. Dont recall if you had to register or not, been a couple
years since I bought the R1800.

Thanks for the confirmation.
The only way I know of to view the detailed Epson or other paper
profiles is from the printer's printing menus after you select a paper.

That's printing option not Printer Profile that most photolabs use. The
Printer Profile many Photolabs make them available for customers to download
is the setting of their printer with combination of paper they use.

Some Photolab updating the Printer Profile regularly, or different
employee may setup differently to their liking. But most of them are pretty
much similar to each other.

Example, all Photolab A, B, C, D etc. use the same model of Fuji Frontier
printer. But PhotoLab A may use different photo-paper like glossy,
super-glossy, Kodak paper, mat-paper etc. when B,C,D use different paper so
they may setup their printer a little different to work well with the paper.

And this is the option in Photoshop (I don't use other graphic program to
know) so you can match your displaying to the printer profile. This is not
important for most people, and if I have no problem with the Photolabs then
I don't even bother to mess with the Printer Profile either.

- Printing Option is the option to chose different type of paper, different
printing quality, landscape, portrait mode etc.. This is the one most
people know and use

- Printer Profile is the setting of the printer, save to file then load the
"Printer Profile" from specific program like Photoshop or similar.

I guess it's similar to Monitor Profile, most people just use the default
setting by computer, graphic card, and monitor etc. and they are fine with
it. But for some graphic retouchers, especially do lot of printing then
some using the software to calibrate their monitors to their liking, and
some calibrate their monitor using hardware (I use hardware monitor
calibrator to calibrate my monitor). And we can load different Monitor
Profile from Minitor Setting (Windows) and the monitor profile will be the
default profile for all Windows applications.

Again, most people don't need hardware or having their monitors
calibrated, but I do lot of printing (could be hundreds of photos at once)
so I need to calibrate the monitor to make sure it's not too far off which
can be costly (hundreds of bad prints does cost some $$$).
 

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