Epson introduces 8 ink tank printers

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rafe b

BTW...your web page is still not accessible :-((


I've never had a problem accessing it, from any
location. Except a few times right around 2AM,
(USA, Eastern time) on certain evenings -- I suspect
that's when my hosting service does backups
and maintenance.

It's been tested with IE, several versions of Netscape,
Opera, and FireFox. The HTML/CSS is validated.

Can't imagine what your problem is, though I notice
you're hosting your site from Slovenia. Could that
have something to do with it ?


rafe b
http://www.terrapinphoto.com
 
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SleeperMan

rafe said:
I've never had a problem accessing it, from any
location. Except a few times right around 2AM,
(USA, Eastern time) on certain evenings -- I suspect
that's when my hosting service does backups
and maintenance.

It's been tested with IE, several versions of Netscape,
Opera, and FireFox. The HTML/CSS is validated.

Can't imagine what your problem is, though I notice
you're hosting your site from Slovenia. Could that
have something to do with it ?
hm...that could be it, although my believe was always that sites should be
accessible worldwide...
Oh, BTW...one of things is also that i can't see group
alt.comp.periphs.printers, just the one without alt.---
i hope at least you can see mine...not that it's anything very wise or very
usefull there... :)
 
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rafe b

SleeperMan said:
rafe b wrote:
hm...that could be it, although my believe was always that sites should be
accessible worldwide...

That's the theory, but I haven't tried surfing from China.

Yesterday (according to the stats) there were visits from
UK, Italy, Netherlands, Australia, Austria, Singapore, Poland,
Switzerland, New Zealand, Japan, Germany, Turkey, Finland,
Spain and Russia.

Oh, BTW...one of things is also that i can't see group
alt.comp.periphs.printers, just the one without alt.---
i hope at least you can see mine...not that it's anything very wise or
very usefull there... :)

Various ISPs choose the USENET groups they're going
to offer. Some have long lists, some have short ones.
Mine shows something like 60,000 groups, of which I
subscribe to about 5.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
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Arthur Entlich

Well, you are right and wrong on several accounts.

Some older paintings have faded badly, and museums spend literally
millions of dollars in both protecting these with special climate
controls and restoring the paintings after damage has occurred.

On the other side, indeed some of the pigments used in known works of
art centuries ago, are used within inkjet inks today, so in spite of
accelerated aging tests and their flaws, these colorants may have
historical reference.

Art
 
A

Arthur Entlich

You have no guarantee the dyes or other processes (for RW) used in CDs
and DVDs will be any more safe archively than the prints
 
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measekite

OH YEAH---MATISE USED AN INKJET WITH OEM INK

Arthur said:
Well, you are right and wrong on several accounts.

Some older paintings have faded badly, and museums spend literally
millions of dollars in both protecting these with special climate
controls and restoring the paintings after damage has occurred.

On the other side, indeed some of the pigments used in known works of
art centuries ago, are used within inkjet inks today, so in spite of
accelerated aging tests and their flaws, these colorants may have
historical reference.

Art
 
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SleeperMan

Arthur said:
You have no guarantee the dyes or other processes (for RW) used in CDs
and DVDs will be any more safe archively than the prints
True. But, you can make a copy every, say 10 years...and you loose
....what...10 cents.?
 
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SleeperMan

rafe said:
Well, I hope you're not too disappointed.<grin.>
So what changed? Any idea?
not a clue. a few days ago i tried (i think i even posted) and yesterday -
nothing. But today works...

You have quite a collection of very nice shots there...a lot of shooting...a
lot...
however i still think that a good digital camera would save you a lot of
work...but would also lighten your pocket quite a bit, since for that pro
work you'd really need some piece of camera, like EOS1D mark II ;-)
 
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zakezuke

True. But, you can make a copy every, say 10 years...and you loose
...what...10 cents.?

And time. Dont' get me wrong... I print with aftermarket ink my self.
It's not like you can trully fill your printer with 100 sheets of
letter/a4 sized photo paper and let it go on it's way, given the volume
of consumer inkjet carts you'd be lucky to get 1/2 those on a normal
sized tank, plus the fact that a new printer is going to have a
learning curve as far as color rendering, but even if you go the
default settings we are talking 40 sheets a print job before one needs
to refill. The number of jobs you can do in a day depend on how much
time you can dedicate to walking back to your printer and adding more
ink. If this is an 10 year archive you are reprinting... this isn't a
small job, this is a huge job. Days, weeks, months... huge job.

I'm not saying it's a bad plan, nor a good plan.... only you are losing
more than 10cents/print. I can see where one might want to spend extra
on their series of 2min jobs, do it right the first time, and not have
a huge job to do in 10 years.
 
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rafe b

You have quite a collection of very nice shots there...a lot of
shooting...a lot...
however i still think that a good digital camera would save you a lot of
work...but would also lighten your pocket quite a bit, since for that pro
work you'd really need some piece of camera, like EOS1D mark II ;-)


The "digital darkroom" page needs lots of updating.

I'm shooting mostly MF, LF and digital these days,
very little 35mm film. Sounds schizophrenic... and
it is. Scans of LF are around 100 million pixels.
You'd need a $25,000 MF digital back to match
the image quality.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
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SleeperMan

rafe said:
The "digital darkroom" page needs lots of updating.

I'm shooting mostly MF, LF and digital these days,
very little 35mm film. Sounds schizophrenic... and
it is. Scans of LF are around 100 million pixels.
You'd need a $25,000 MF digital back to match
the image quality.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

huh...
good luck with pixel counting... :)
 
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SleeperMan

zakezuke said:
And time. Dont' get me wrong... I print with aftermarket ink my self.
It's not like you can trully fill your printer with 100 sheets of
letter/a4 sized photo paper and let it go on it's way, given the
volume of consumer inkjet carts you'd be lucky to get 1/2 those on a
normal sized tank, plus the fact that a new printer is going to have a
learning curve as far as color rendering, but even if you go the
default settings we are talking 40 sheets a print job before one needs
to refill. The number of jobs you can do in a day depend on how much
time you can dedicate to walking back to your printer and adding more
ink. If this is an 10 year archive you are reprinting... this isn't a
small job, this is a huge job. Days, weeks, months... huge job.

I'm not saying it's a bad plan, nor a good plan.... only you are
losing more than 10cents/print. I can see where one might want to
spend extra on their series of 2min jobs, do it right the first time,
and not have a huge job to do in 10 years.

Ok, sure, you can't expect anyone to refresh, say, 10.000 prints every 10
years...i guess i'm talking mostly for home use, where a couple of shots are
present, like your kid, pet, whatever...
and i mean that these days archiving is no longer on paper, but rather on
digital media. So, printing is made only a couple of selected shots, rest
are safely stored digitally. This wasn't possible with negative, since
negative did loose quality, while digitals don't...but, as said, it's a good
idea to make a backup every, say, 10 years, while also in that time a new
media comes out and you copy while stuff there...like, say, you have 5 CDR's
of shots, now youcan make a backup copy of one single DVD-R (ok, two
identical). 10 years from now, i guess we'll make a backup on maybe bluray
disc...but the point is that quality of original will remain intact.
 
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SleeperMan

rafe said:
With scans of LF, you can make razor-sharp 24" x 30" prints.
They're fun to look at. You can see a pine needle thirty feet away.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com

well, i guess this is called "detailed shooting"...you need quite a hdd for
all this stuff then :)
 
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rafe b

well, i guess this is called "detailed shooting"...you need quite a hdd
for all this stuff then :)


You can't hardly buy a hard drive these days that's
smaller than 100 Gig. As high quality JPGs, these
scans are about 70-80 Mbytes. The TIFs are
300 Mbytes (8-bit color) or 600 Mbytes (16-bit
color) and shoveled off onto DVDs.

One doesn't shoot LF like one shoots digital. I
have six film holders (= 12 sheets of film) in the
kit. So on any given outing with the LF camera,
I'll be taking 12 shots, max. The film is about
$1.50 a sheet, and processing is $2.50 a sheet.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 

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