Email with Challenge Response System

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I use Outlook 2007 (with Vista 64) for my email and my current email supplier
(Earthlink but with my own domain) has a feature that only allows email from
a safelist to be passed through to Outlook and all other email is put in a
suspect email folder on the web and the sender gets a message that says they
need to fill out a form to get put on my safelist. I like this system but I
am having problems with Earthlink.

Does anyone out there have a email supplier that has a similar system or if
not is there thrid party sofware that I can add to Outlook that would
accomplish something similar (would prefer the email service solution to the
third party solution).

Thanks for your help.
 
I guess I need more imagination than I have. I do not see any way to do a
NOT in my address book. I can see where I can based on an email address but
if I add email addresses then it it would be necessary to update the rule
separately and htis would be very cumbersome.

I am looking for a relatively easy solution that does not require a lot of
work.
 
Three rules, First rule moves mail from people to the Safelist inbox you
create.
Second rule looks for the request for admission to your private e-mail
and moves that to the "new members" folder for you to add e-mail
addresses from
third rule moves the rest to a processing folder and sends a reply to
fill out some form.
 
The way I see it the very first rule could include everyone in my current
addressbook but I don't want everyone allowable email to be in my address
book and also if I add to my address book then I would have to modify the
rule. I see that your suggestion is feasible but it is not an elegant as I
would like it so I would appreciate other suggestions.
 
I use Outlook 2007 (with Vista 64) for my email and my current email supplier
(Earthlink but with my own domain) has a feature that only allows email from
a safelist to be passed through to Outlook and all other email is put in a
suspect email folder on the web and the sender gets a message that says they
need to fill out a form to get put on my safelist. I like this system but I
am having problems with Earthlink.

Does anyone out there have a email supplier that has a similar system or if
not is there thrid party sofware that I can add to Outlook that would
accomplish something similar (would prefer the email service solution to the
third party solution).

Thanks for your help.
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I despise "Challenge Response". The only challenges I have ever received
were from obnoxious users of the system, "challenging" email I never sent
them in the first place (I've had one Yahoo! account email address forged as
"sender"; and my own domain, as well). I report all challenges as spam, via
the SpamCop.net service.
 
Different strokes for different people. While the C/R system may not be
great it is the best way I can see to control spam. If you don't won't a C/R
system don't install one.
 
"N. Miller" wrote:
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Different strokes for different people. While the C/R system may not be
great it is the best way I can see to control spam. If you don't won't a C/R
system don't install one.
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You completely missed my point. Use one, if you think you must; but be
prepared to have to defend your use of it with your provider, as his servers
will be threatened with DNSB Listing for abuse. Even if SpamCop.net won't
block his servers, I definitely will.

You speak as an end user, sending email through your provider's servers. I
speak as a server operator, trying to defend my server against such abuse as
caused by C/R systems.
 
Yes, I guess I missed your point. I really don't understand the issue. I do
not like getting all the annoying emails marketing products etc that I have
no interest in buying. Therefore I am trying to eliminate them. So if if
could give me another explanation of why I don't want the challenge response
system I would consider it.

Also, I have come accross a different kind of system (2 programs are Super
Email Harvester & Super Email Verifier) which apparently go out to the
senders ISP and verify the sender. I have no idea if this is a good system
and would like your ideas on it.

Lastly if you have another solution I would be happy to hear about it.

Thanks for your time
 
Yes, I guess I missed your point. I really don't understand the issue. I do
not like getting all the annoying emails marketing products etc that I have
no interest in buying.
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And I do not like getting all the "challenges", telling me what I must do to
become an "approved" sender, when I didn't send anything to warrant the
challenge. Just because some spammer forged my email address does not mean I
deserver to get your dreck in response to his dreck.
Therefore I am trying to eliminate them.
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Use spam filters.
So if if could give me another explanation of why I don't want the challenge
response system I would consider it.
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If your spam filters are good enough to prevent sending abusive "challenges"
to forged sender email addresses, they will be good enough to eliminate the
spam without even sending challenges.
Also, I have come accross a different kind of system (2 programs are Super
Email Harvester & Super Email Verifier) which apparently go out to the
senders ISP and verify the sender. I have no idea if this is a good system
and would like your ideas on it.
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Anything which my server interprets as abuse will be blocked. If you want to
limit your contact from the outside world, do anything you like which
results in blockage of your service.
Lastly if you have another solution I would be happy to hear about it.
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Just use a straightup spam filter. Forget about annoying innocent victims of
forgery with abusive contacts trying to verify that they sent something they
did not send.
 
I use Outlook 2007 (with Vista 64) for my email and my current email supplier
(Earthlink but with my own domain) has a feature that only allows email from
a safelist to be passed through to Outlook and all other email is put in a
suspect email folder on the web and the sender gets a message that says they
need to fill out a form to get put on my safelist. I like this system but I
am having problems with Earthlink.

Does anyone out there have a email supplier that has a similar system or if
not is there thrid party sofware that I can add to Outlook that would
accomplish something similar (would prefer the email service solution to the
third party solution).
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http://www.spamcop.net/ supplies that service.
 
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