dvd writer not writing

[Husky]

Only partially correct.

I bought some walmart 700 meg CD-R's. couldn't use Studio to record a TV show
to them. wrong format. found out I needed a DVD-R disk to write TV shows to.
Bought some 4.x gig DVD-R's. I was told they can be used as plain old data
disks also, Tried to write some programs and 2 folders of mp3's under 2 gigs to
the DVD-R because they won't all fit on a 700 meg CD-R.

now it shows 0 bytes and 0 bytes free on the DVD-R's what's going on ?
Tried a second DVD-R same thing 0 bytes total disk space, and 0 bytes free.
I did write 3 half hour shows to a DVD-R the other day with Studio 8. and the
explorer has no trouble writing to CD-R's
I was kind of hoping to be able to use these 4.x gig DVD-R's as data disks also
for those programs that require more than 1 CD-R to keep all the programs in
one place.

The drive itself is a brand new Liteon DVD-R and hasn't shown any problems. I
also upgraded to SP2 this AM.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

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| Only partially correct.
|
| I bought some walmart 700 meg CD-R's. couldn't use Studio to record a TV show
| to them. wrong format. found out I needed a DVD-R disk to write TV shows to.
| Bought some 4.x gig DVD-R's. I was told they can be used as plain old data
| disks also, Tried to write some programs and 2 folders of mp3's under 2 gigs to
| the DVD-R because they won't all fit on a 700 meg CD-R.
|
| now it shows 0 bytes and 0 bytes free on the DVD-R's what's going on ?
| Tried a second DVD-R same thing 0 bytes total disk space, and 0 bytes free.
| I did write 3 half hour shows to a DVD-R the other day with Studio 8. and the
| explorer has no trouble writing to CD-R's
| I was kind of hoping to be able to use these 4.x gig DVD-R's as data disks also
| for those programs that require more than 1 CD-R to keep all the programs in
| one place.
|
| The drive itself is a brand new Liteon DVD-R and hasn't shown any problems. I
| also upgraded to SP2 this AM.
| --

 

[Husky]

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:04:22 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"

Thanks. I've been to this site b4. The drive was some sort of special. ie:
Distributor drive. or OEM. not boxed.
I couldn't find anything last time I visited this site. pretty much the same at
ATI. huge web site, and not a bit of useful information. Either too many
questions, or the wrong one's cause I normally find the sites I need help from
the actual answer I'm looking for is either non-existent, or never found.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Only partially correct.

I bought some walmart 700 meg CD-R's. couldn't use Studio to record a
TV show to them. wrong format. found out I needed a DVD-R disk to
write TV shows to. Bought some 4.x gig DVD-R's. I was told they can
be used as plain old data disks also, Tried to write some programs
and 2 folders of mp3's under 2 gigs to the DVD-R because they won't
all fit on a 700 meg CD-R.

now it shows 0 bytes and 0 bytes free on the DVD-R's what's going on ?
Tried a second DVD-R same thing 0 bytes total disk space, and 0 bytes
free.
I did write 3 half hour shows to a DVD-R the other day with Studio 8.
and the explorer has no trouble writing to CD-R's
I was kind of hoping to be able to use these 4.x gig DVD-R's as data
disks also for those programs that require more than 1 CD-R to keep
all the programs in one place.

The drive itself is a brand new Liteon DVD-R and hasn't shown any
problems. I also upgraded to SP2 this AM.

www.dvdrhelp.com

 

[Lil' Dave]

What are you using to burn data DVDs with?
I use Nero, ISO format. This is not the same as a packet writer like INCD
or DirectCD or XPs native CD packet writer. Does not natively work in
windows explorer, you have to open the application to do this. The media
(Wal-Mart) itself could be the problem. Try a different reseller brand for
the DVD media.

Suggested newsgroups if your news server carries them:
alt.video.dvd.authoring
alt video.dvd.software
alt.video.dvdr

 

[Husky]

the DVD-r's name brand is non-existent. They're just plain DVD-r's with a hard
shell candy coating to write on. white on one side and bluish silver on the
other with just a number on each disk with 4x as part of the number.
They're the DVD-r's that the place I bought this machine from sells/uses.
The specs on the liteon DVD pretty much say it'd write to a PB&J sandwich if
you stuck it in the drive. Handles just about any format thrown at it. So it's
doubtful the place I get all my stuff from would sell me crap. Specially with
walmart and office depot so nearby.
dircetcd doesn't work with XP.
I've just been using the writer built into explorer. It seems to know what it's
doing. it's only screwed 2 files out of several hundred in the past few days.
writing to the CD-r's is not the problem. I was under the impression these 4.6
gig DVD-r's could be used as plain old HUGE data disks.

 

[Thomas Wendell]

To write to DVD-R(W) you need 3rd party software, XP has NO support for
these. To use them as HUGE flopiies, you need a packet writing program like
InCD (Nero) or DirectCD (EasyCD-DVVDWriter minimum ver. 5.3) and then format
DVD-RWs (SLooooW)...

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[Hopscotch Whiskey]

Liteon DVD-R i would rate as fair, longevity not great. With sp2 you can
burn track at once as multisession not being restricted by the 4 gigabyte
limit pre-sp2 on ntfs. Sp2 has fixed the issue of the multisession dvd with
a limit of 4 gigabytes on a ntfs formatted hard drive. Of course before you
could burn 4.7 gigs in one shot. Don't believe the garbage you read on some
of these newsgroups don't use nero use recordnow max the earlier versions of
copytodvd or NTI CD and DVD-Maker Platinum. You're closing the dvd disc the
first time you write to it probably the default option of the software
change it to multisession in options. I've been using vegas 5 or TMPGEnc 3.0
to encode also been using riverpast video cleaner so i can use AC3 sound
instead of paying for the AC3 option in TMPGenc. Been using dvd architect
2.0 to prepare the dvd's and NTI CD and DVD-Maker Platinum to burn them.

 

[Husky]

Liteon DVD-R i would rate as fair, longevity not great. With sp2 you can
burn track at once as multisession not being restricted by the 4 gigabyte
limit pre-sp2 on ntfs. Sp2 has fixed the issue of the multisession dvd with
a limit of 4 gigabytes on a ntfs formatted hard drive. Of course before you
could burn 4.7 gigs in one shot. Don't believe the garbage you read on some
of these newsgroups don't use nero use recordnow max the earlier versions of

If recordnow is going to stick directcd back on my machine I'll pass. 1st
directcd isn't compatible with XP pro. and 2nd it won't remove easily. and 3rd
it screws up CD's when it does attempt to install itself.
I'm not real comfortable with anything roxio anymore. I bought the ATI aiw128
and it came with videowave2. Luckily that thing still works on XP pro. I
intended to upgrade to vw7, but vw7 was a step backwards from vw2.
They couldn't handle my problem with directcd. so I had to dig thru the
registry by hand and remove everything roxio.

copytodvd or NTI CD and DVD-Maker Platinum. You're closing the dvd disc the
first time you write to it probably the default option of the software
change it to multisession in options. I've been using vegas 5 or TMPGEnc 3.0
to encode also been using riverpast video cleaner so i can use AC3 sound
instead of paying for the AC3 option in TMPGenc. Been using dvd architect
2.0 to prepare the dvd's and NTI CD and DVD-Maker Platinum to burn them.

cripes isn't there an all in one package that does it all ? As for Nero, the
place that sold me the machine DVD's and drive, said Nero would be the program
to use for data to 4.x gig CD's.
Since I already have it installed I'll most likely go that route.
but the list of software should be useful if Nero becomes too wieldy.

 

[Hopscotch Whiskey]

There are versions of nero that don't seem to work properly. The problem is
there are too many versions. Some versions choke on a long file name and
bang a coaster other versions omit a long file name though most names don't
exceed the udf limit. The older versions of CopytoDvd let you write at the
maximum speed of the dvd burner not the speed rating of the dvd disc.

 

[Husky]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:06:07 -0400, "Hopscotch Whiskey"

Well I saved this and tried copytodvd. nti cd is over 27 megs. Not worth a 3
hour download for a trial to me. DVD maker platinum and DVD architect are
either no longer in production, or have a horrible place on search engines.
I have 3 bad DVD disks now with nothing on them.

Nero might have ruined one or two of these dvds, but none of the recording
software so far has reacted any differently to the disks at all.

the copytodvd did a lot of spinning and red light writing, and taking forever
to clean up, only to have a blank disk when done.

here's a log file of copytodvd.
:9/28/2004 8:49:06 PM info ********** Report session closed ***********
:9/28/2004 8:48:48 PM info Write completed
:9/28/2004 8:48:48 PM info Average speed x2.92 Reference x1 = 1385.00 kbps
:9/28/2004 8:48:48 PM info Total burning time 00:08:24.469
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Starting write buffer
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Starting to write...
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Buffer under-run proof enabled
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM warning Setting conflict: SAO writing mode for DVD-R doesn't allow multisession. DVD will be closed at finalization.
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info DVD-R SAO writing mode selected
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x4.0
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info another write session will be allowed after this session.
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Open Image file "C:\Documents and Settings\ken.SHEBA\Application Data\CopyToDvd\COPYTODVD_09282004_203924_437.iso"
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Available sector size : 2297888
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Media ID: PRINCO
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info 120mm DVD Single Layer
:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM info Detected media $0011: DVD-R
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Multisession is enabled in filesystem
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info 120mm DVD Single Layer
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Detected media $0011: DVD-R
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Finished browsing files - Data size 779 Mb.
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Start Browsing file structures
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Supported Media: DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Writing device used: 3:0:0 - LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S US0F [Y] (Ide)
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.24, Internal revision 24
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Using File/Directory list.
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info ParamStr 4 = "/writespeed=4.0"
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info ParamStr 3 = "/writedevice=Y"
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info ParamStr 2 = "/volumename=New_Disc"
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info ParamStr 1 = "/datafl=C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\~c2c_fl.tmp"
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info ParamStr 0 = "C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe"
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info Version 3.0.30.48
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info ExeName : "C:\PROGRA~1\VSO\COPYTO~1\CopyToCd.exe"
:9/28/2004 8:39:24 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
All the programs came back with pretty much the same information.

:9/28/2004 8:40:23 PM warning Setting conflict: SAO writing mode for DVD-R doesn't allow multisession. DVD will be closed at finalization.
this above may have screwed me on using the DVD a 2nd time.
Why is it DVD software can't at least attempt to not screw things up.
I had pretty much the same luck with a HP cd / rw. I may have 10-15 workable
cd's from 2-3 years of the hp.

They play, but when it comes to writing they seem to go brain dead.
Even the software that came with the DVD is worthless. You'd think the
manufacturer would at least bundle working software with their machines.

 

[Harry Ohrn]

XP can not write natively to DVD you need third party software. This is
freeware with no spyware or other crap http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

 

[Husky]

I'll try it. What I'm trying to do is use these 4.x gig DVD disks as data
disks. copy some zips, folders, etc.. so far all attempts with Nero, copytodvd,
have failed to work as data disk copiers.

 

[Husky]

well this free program cdburner XP pro 3 actually saw that there was 4488 meg
of free space on the disk before it ruined the disk. I guess that's a start.

 

[Harry Ohrn]

Have you tried using DVD+R media? In my experience +R is more reliable
than -R. I have a lite on DVD+/-R/W and writer and have no trouble with Nero
6.3.117 . I have heard bad reports about build 6.3.125 though.

If you have Direct CD on the system get rid of it as it has been known to
conflict with Nero sometimes
Try uninstalling Nero and see if 63115 or 63117 works better for you
ftp://ftp.nero.com/software/NeroBurnigROM/

I've been burning CDs for about 7 years and DVDs for the past year. In my
experience, when I encounter problems like you are running into I have found
that, more often than not, it is hardware and not software related. If this
is a new drive can you see about warranty?

--

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www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


|
| well this free program cdburner XP pro 3 actually saw that there was 4488
meg
| of free space on the disk before it ruined the disk. I guess that's a
start.
|
|
| >On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:18:31 -0600, "Harry Ohrn" <[email protected]>
wrote:
| >
| >I'll try it. What I'm trying to do is use these 4.x gig DVD disks as data
| >disks. copy some zips, folders, etc.. so far all attempts with Nero,
copytodvd,
| >have failed to work as data disk copiers.
| >
| >>XP can not write natively to DVD you need third party software. This is
| >>freeware with no spyware or other crap http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
|
| --
| more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html

 

[Harry Ohrn]

What are your DMA setting set at for the controller your DVD Writer is on?
Check here if you don't know what I mean
http://www.blackmaxpc.com/Guides/Enable_DMA.htm

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Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


|
| well this free program cdburner XP pro 3 actually saw that there was 4488
meg
| of free space on the disk before it ruined the disk. I guess that's a
start.
|
|
| >On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:18:31 -0600, "Harry Ohrn" <[email protected]>
wrote:
| >
| >I'll try it. What I'm trying to do is use these 4.x gig DVD disks as data
| >disks. copy some zips, folders, etc.. so far all attempts with Nero,
copytodvd,
| >have failed to work as data disk copiers.
| >
| >>XP can not write natively to DVD you need third party software. This is
| >>freeware with no spyware or other crap http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
|
| --
| more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html

 

[Husky]

I have the most up to date Nero right now. 63117
When I installed this DVD I also left my hp CD writer installed.
I have these 2 chained.
there's possibly something wrong as I have to set these 2 drives as permanent
drive letters. I originally had them as x and y. removed any assignment, and
nothing could find the drives.
changed them back and let the system assign them to F: and G:
tried again, and same thing one more disk eaten up trying to copy some archives
to them.

one odd thing it claimed something was using 2 of the archives.
I deleted all the archives, rebuilt them and tried again.
So far all I'm doing is ruining DVD-R disks.

Have you tried using DVD+R media? In my experience +R is more reliable
than -R. I have a lite on DVD+/-R/W and writer and have no trouble with Nero
6.3.117 . I have heard bad reports about build 6.3.125 though.

If you have Direct CD on the system get rid of it as it has been known to
conflict with Nero sometimes

XP pro used to tell me [until I found all the directcd crap] that it wasn't
going to load the directcd drivers because of conflicts.
I don't believe it reinstalled itself on it's own.
I've reinstalled the OS several times. Learned about directcd before the 1st
re-install.
If there's any directcd on this machine now, it's worse than a virus cause I
don't have software designed to find it.

Try uninstalling Nero and see if 63115 or 63117 works better for you
ftp://ftp.nero.com/software/NeroBurnigROM/

I've been burning CDs for about 7 years and DVDs for the past year. In my
experience, when I encounter problems like you are running into I have found
that, more often than not, it is hardware and not software related. If this
is a new drive can you see about warranty?

I just wrote liteon to see what software they recommend.

 

[Joan Archer]

I have a Liteon DVD RW drive and that came with SonicMyDvd if that's any
help.
Joan

 

[Husky]

that's interesting I have 2 primary IDE channels, and 2 secondaries. the DMA
info is on the secondaries, but all are set to use if available.
I've been wanting to use one of these DVD's as a DVD's for some TV shows. The
writer worked for a different DVD's disk writing some TV shows, so that tells
me the writer works. and it's been backing up data to blank CD's for awhile.
it's something to do with these DVD's disks I'm using.

 

[Husky]

well the only link I found doesn't have a demo or download option. So it really
isn't any help.
The fact that all the software I've tried so far has failed with nearly the
exact same error, tells me it's probably the disks.