duel boot windows 98 se and xp

[Chuck S]

Is there a tutorial online somewhere on how to duel boot windows 98 se and
xp . I have partition magic and I tried it using there wizard but it did not
work for some reason . And is boot magic part of partition magic or is it
separate . I know win 98 has to be first .

 

[Strontium]

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Chuck S stood up at show-n-tell, in
[email protected], and said:

Is there a tutorial online somewhere on how to duel boot windows 98
se and xp . I have partition magic and I tried it using there wizard
but it did not work for some reason . And is boot magic part of
partition magic or is it separate . I know win 98 has to be first .

Just install XP, after 98, to a different partition. Windows XP has a
built-in boot manager. You do not need BootMagic, to do this. And, yes,
BootMagic is a part of PM.

 

[Jan Alter]

Hi,

I have done this scenerio creating two partitions with a Win98 bootdisk,
installing Win98, and then restarting with an XP CD-ROM and installing XP on
the second partition. XP installed its own boot menu after the XP install
and I was able to choose which OS to start. I did this using a 30 gig drive
at the time. If you are using a substantially larger hdd fdisk may have
trouble using the full capacity of the drive.

 

[Chuck S]

I have a 100 gb drive in use but was gonna use a new 200 gb drive with xp
and 98 . Unless I should switch the drives maybe .

 

[Sooky Grumper]

Is there a tutorial online somewhere on how to duel boot windows 98 se and
xp . I have partition magic and I tried it using there wizard but it did not
work for some reason . And is boot magic part of partition magic or is it
separate . I know win 98 has to be first .

You want them to fight it out?

There's no need to use partition magic to accomplish this. Starting with
a blank drive (if the drive is not blank google for how to wipe the
partition table) boot with a win98 boot disk. Use fdisk to set up a
partition for windows 98. Leave the rest of the drive for windows XP.
Now, install windows 98. When that finishes, install windows XP. During
setup you'll be prompted to partition and format the free space on the
drive. Windows XP will add a boot loader for you, so you can select
between windows 98 and windows xp when you start the computer.

 

[somebody]

Is there a tutorial online somewhere on how to duel boot windows 98 se and
xp . I have partition magic and I tried it using there wizard but it did not
work for some reason . And is boot magic part of partition magic or is it
separate . I know win 98 has to be first .

Hi Chuck, excuse me for butting in, but did you consider fixing up
another PC for use as Win98se instead?
It might just be me, but I hate dual boots.

Ancra

 

[289425]

Could this be done using a separate drive for 98SE?

I have a 200 gig primary channel master for XP Pro,
and would like to use a 15 gig primary channel slave
for 98SE.

Do-able?

TIA

 

[jeff findley]

Could this be done using a separate drive for 98SE?

I have a 200 gig primary channel master for XP Pro,
and would like to use a 15 gig primary channel slave
for 98SE.

Do-able?

Removable drive cage, one for each HDD? Label one XP Pro and the
other 98 SE. This keeps the two OS's completely separate, so there is
no chance that you will mess up one while running the other.

Otherwise, there are software solutions to this. A Google search will
turn up lots of info like this:

http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/334/

Jeff

 

[Peter Ives]

Could this be done using a separate drive for 98SE?

I have a 200 gig primary channel master for XP Pro,
and would like to use a 15 gig primary channel slave
for 98SE.

Do-able?

set each drive to 'Cable select' and use BIOS to change which ide device
no. to boot from.

 

[Conor]

Could this be done using a separate drive for 98SE?

I have a 200 gig primary channel master for XP Pro,
and would like to use a 15 gig primary channel slave
for 98SE.

Do-able?

Yes. Install 98 first, then XP. XP will detect the Win98 install and
provide a Boot menu


--
Conor

"The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world.
And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
- George Bush

 

[Conor]

Removable drive cage, one for each HDD? Label one XP Pro and the
other 98 SE. This keeps the two OS's completely separate, so there is
no chance that you will mess up one while running the other.

Sledgehammer to crack a nut. No need to do this.


--
Conor

"The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world.
And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
- George Bush

 

[Conor]

set each drive to 'Cable select' and use BIOS to change which ide device
no. to boot from.

Another muppet suggestion.

--
Conor

"The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world.
And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
- George Bush

 

[Peter Ives]

Another muppet suggestion.

Another muppet answer.

 

[Peter Ives]

Yes. Install 98 first, then XP. XP will detect the Win98 install and
provide a Boot menu

But hasn't he already installed XP and, seeing as he doesn't say how
long he's had that up and running, aren't you assuming that re-
installing XP is going to be a simple process. At least by using cable
select - which is 'very' straightforward and it only takes a few seconds
to change the BIOS config whenever you want to change boot devices - he
doesn't have to worry about an XP re-install at all.

Yours,

Kermit.

 

[Dave]

Could this be done using a separate drive for 98SE?

I have a 200 gig primary channel master for XP Pro,
and would like to use a 15 gig primary channel slave
for 98SE.

Do-able?

Yes. But to make a short answer long....

My BIOS has alternate boot drive selection that if I press F11 at the
correct time during POST I can choose from a selection of drives to boot
from. I have 98 on the master and XP on the slave and use that when I want
to boot XP. I use 98 for internet crap as the virus kiddies are attacking
it a lot less now than XP.

But 98 does not set-up a boot menu thing as does installing XP on a slave
drive when 98 is all ready installed on the master drive. As a safety
measure I would disconnect the XP drive and re-jumper the other as master
until 98 is fully loaded, including everything else that has to be
installed. It makes the whole process a lot faster this way, if you have
that BIOS option.

Personally, I use 98SE a lot more than XP. On my set-up 98SE uses only
about
35MB RAM after boot on a clean install but XP uses over 120MB. XP does have
its benefits, eg much more USB support, but quite a few games I play are
faster on 98SE because there is more RAM left over after bootup. If I had
to do a lot of video work or work with files larger than 2GB in size then XP
is the choice for me if the drive is formatted NTFS.

I have friends that I hook up with to play network games, some have Win98,
some have Win2000 and the others have XP. The ones with Win2k usually have
to load-up patches more often to get them to work when new games are loaded.

If you are setting up the small drive for the kids to play on then make the
98 the drive master in case they try the computer when you're not around,
if you have a similar BIOS boot option. If you don't have a similar BIOS
option then I guess you'd have to swap the cables over on the drives at the
start/end of sessions to make it work or get a PCI controller with a similar
option, etc.

If you want to use the boot menu that XP installs then install 98 on the
master and leave it connected while you repair XP on the other drive. There
may be something to bi-pass this process but I don't have any tools to let
me do this, though they may be out there. There also may be something on
the XP install disc but I have spent 0 seconds looking for it since I am
satisfied with my current set-up.

Dave

 

[289425]

Ok, tried various things and came down to this: I have to start over.

I had wanted to use my 220gig as the Primary channel Master with XP Pro,
and the Primary Slave as a 15gig W98SE drive. But no-go. Win98SE will
not boot from any drive other than the first. So I have to swap drives
and make the older 15gig the Master and install 98SE on it. Then I will
install XP Pro on the 200 gig Slave.

I suppose there is no speed loss using the newer 200Gig as the slave,
but it offends my sense of propriety <g> to have to set up this way. But
it does seem that everything will be happier. Certainly, it is the only
way 98SE will be happy.

(FWIW my Secondary channel Master is a 120Gig and its slave is a CDR/W.)

 

[jimbo]

I have a dual boot Win98se and WinXP Home. Win98se is on C drive
(physical)and WinXP Home is on D drive (physical). Win98se was there
on C drive first and WinXP Home was added to D drive later. Everything
works very well. I installed WinXP as a dual boot because I didn't
want to start from scratch with a brand new clean installation of
WinXP. I was then able to migrate applications from Win98se to WinXP
at my own slow pace. What I have found is that I boot to WinXP more
and more and rarely boot to Win98se. Do you have some specific reason
to want the dual boot set up?

Regards, jimbo

 

[289425]

Hi Jimbo,

What I have found is that I boot to WinXP more
and more and rarely boot to Win98se. Do you have some specific reason
to want the dual boot set up?

Unfortunately, yes. I was hoping to go straight XP-Pro, but learned
I would need to use 98 "now and then". As I loaded up this system I
have sadly learned that some of the audio editing programs,
as well as a few others of various types, will not work in XP-any.

Tomorrow I shall start over, as I have not yet registered XP.
I'll use my old 15Gig as Primary Master for W98 and keep the 200Gig
Primary Slave drive configured for XP. I'd rather not have it as "D",
so I'll use Partition Magic to hide the first drive unless I am going
to be in Win98. All the drives I'll use with XP are NTFS, except for a
small (4gig) logical drive partition on the 120gig Secondary channel
drive. That will be FAt32 so Win98 can see it and use a fixed swap file
I'll set on it.

I sure wish W98 would boot from a slave drive. That would have made it
all easier.

Thanks for the good discussion.