driver backups

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BillW50

In glee typed:
That's absurd.

How so? Installing drivers individually takes a lot longer than using
the Driver backup. And Char claims people who does this on a daily bases
doesn't use Driver Backups. If it were absurd like you claim, they would
use Driver Backups.
 
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glee

BillW50 said:
In glee typed:

Char has never seen it. But most inexperienced people probably
haven't.

I haven't seen anything to indicate Char has not seen it, from the
replies in this thread.
 
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BillW50

In glee typed:
I haven't seen anything to indicate Char has not seen it, from the
replies in this thread.

Oh you snipped out Char comments. Go back and reread it.
 
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BillW50

In Bill in Co typed:
I'd agree for the case of just reinstalling one driver, although
again, for me, it's just a lot easier to restore a system backup,
which takes all of 15 minutes, and covers all the bases.

Having over 20 computers here that range from 4GB up to 1TB drives, I
agree if the system drive is small enough, a restore isn't really a big
deal.
 
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Bill in Co said:
And that's what they keep missing.
Sigh, should I give up on them? :)
Of course, THEIR definition of being more productive may mean
something else.. :)

It's not less productive, it is more productive, in part due to much
greater security features, among many other things. But I've wasted
enough time talking to deaf ears. How you can judge the productivity of
an OS without ever having used it is, well, beyond belief.
 
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BillW50 said:
In glee typed:

Oh you snipped out Char comments. Go back and reread it.

I have read it, I don't need to read it again. Char did not state what
you claim. He stated he had not seen the particular scenario Bill in CO
was describing, which was something different. You appear to be reading
your own meanings into the comments of others.
 
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BillW50

I have read it, I don't need to read it again. Char did not state what
you claim. He stated he had not seen the particular scenario Bill in CO
was describing, which was something different. You appear to be reading
your own meanings into the comments of others.

Oh I see... sometimes for forget that some of you have never been there.
And by the same token of the above trying different builds of a video
driver, you can end up with old and new parts of the video driver in
play. And this usually ends up in a screwed up mess.

Although I have from time to time turned it out for the best. One
example was trying to get a SiS video driver to work with Microsoft
Flight Sim (MSFS). I found three available. One older that came with the
video card (1), a middle version from Windows Update (2), and the latest
and greatest from SiS website (3).

None of them would work correctly by themselves with MSFS. Although I
discovered if you installed them in a certain order like 3, 1, then 2,
you ended up with parts of each build all working well together with
MSFS. That was lucky, usually it just goes from bad to worse.
 
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Char Jackson

In Char Jackson typed:

Actually no! Games sometimes only work with a very narrow range of video
driver builds for one. And the silly Synaptics TouchPad drivers seem to
be problematic with scrolling with some applications. And some builds
work fine and some don't. But you're an inexperienced computer user, so
you probably haven't seen this stuff yet.

You have more computer problems than almost anyone I know.
 
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Char Jackson

In Char Jackson typed:

I have no problems learning many new things everyday. But when the so
called new and improved is less productive than the old, I now have a
problem.

Admitting it is the first step. Bravo!
 
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Char Jackson

I'd agree for the case of just reinstalling one driver, although again, for
me, it's just a lot easier to restore a system backup, which takes all of 15
minutes, and covers all the bases.

You forgot to add, "and completely wipes out the system you had prior
to doing the install."

That's why it's not a first choice, but instead a last choice.
 
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Char Jackson

It's not less productive, it is more productive, in part due to much
greater security features, among many other things. But I've wasted
enough time talking to deaf ears. How you can judge the productivity of
an OS without ever having used it is, well, beyond belief.

And there you have it. We're talking to people who have heard
something or read something, but have no actual experience.
 
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Char Jackson

In glee typed:

How so? Installing drivers individually takes a lot longer than using
the Driver backup. And Char claims people who does this on a daily bases
doesn't use Driver Backups. If it were absurd like you claim, they would
use Driver Backups.

You are so confused. When one driver gets hosed, which is a rare
situation to start with, it's not faster to get out the driver backup
program and run it, hoping that the driver you need has been included
in a previous backup and further hoping that the restore goes well.
What is faster is to just do a straightforward install of the driver
from a legitimate source and be done with it.
 
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Char Jackson

In Char Jackson typed:

Oh man, Char you are so inexperienced and are something else! With a
driver backup program, the drivers have already been installed on the
system. Now the order of the drivers being plugged back in doesn't
matter, as the results are the same. It is only important when you use
the driver install, not backup. As the driver install only uses the
files that works best with your system. And if you install the drivers
individually, the install might get the wrong information if you install
them in the wrong order. And you can only screw up from a driver backup
if it is on different hardware. Then you should use individual driver
installs again. Geez!

You realize that none of that made the slightest bit of sense, right?
Would you like to read it and see if you can explain what you were
trying to say? Just take your time so you get it right this time.
 
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BillW50

In Char Jackson typed:
You have more computer problems than almost anyone I know.

That is because you have no experience Char. Those of us who has
experience knows many different ways to do things. Some f them are old
ways and some are new ways. And we do it all. People like you have no
such experience and only know one way to do things. And thus why you
have fewer problems. As being clueless does have it benefits at times.
Like they say, ignorance is bliss. ;-)

Experienced people always run into more problems than the inexperienced
ones. But the same token, experienced ones can quickly overcome
virtually any problem that pops up too far better than the
inexperienced. Here is what other experienced people say about problems.

"We have not succeeded in solving all of our problems. In fact,
the solutions we have found have served to raise a whole new
set of questions. In some ways, we are as confused as ever;
however, we feel we are confused on a higher level and about
more important things." -- (source unknown)

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same
level of thinking we were at when we created them."
-- Albert Einstein

"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way
is to make it so simple that there are obviously no
deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated
that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far
more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare

"If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously
overlooked something." - Steven Wright

"It is strange the way the ignorant and inexperienced so often
and so undeservedly succeed when the informed and the
experienced fail." -- Mark Twain

"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that
something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he
states that something is impossible, he is very probably
wrong." - Arthur C. Clarke
 
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Char Jackson

In Char Jackson typed:

That is because you have no experience Char.

I would not trade my experience for yours. No way, no how.
Those of us who has experience knows many different ways to do things.

I hate to be the grammar police and very rarely go there, but I just
have to ask how long you intend to torture us with your poor grammar?
The sentence above looks like it was composed by a third grader.

You obviously have opinions and wish to share them, which is
outstanding even when you're completely wrong, but the poor grammar
really takes away from your message.
 

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