drive image problem

Y

yon

Using Drive Image 7 I have created an image of my hard disk on an
external usb disk. A couple of days ago my hard disk failed; I
installed and formatted a new disk and tried to restore my image using
the stand-alone Drive Image restore cd. Everything seemed to work ok,
except that when it was all finished, I could not boot from the
restored disk - it gave an "A read error has occured" message. There
is nothing wrong with the disk since the emergency Windows XP recovery
disk worked fine to create a running (though 4 years out of date!)
system.

I have two questions: 1. Has anybody any suggestions on what I can do
to get a working restored disk? 2. Can Symantec's Save & Restore
utility read Drive Image images, and can this perhaps be used to
restore the system?

By the way, when installed on my emergency-restored os, the Drive Image
program is able to restore individual files and folders from the
back-up image, so is restoring all the files individually an option
that would create a restored disk? I suspect not.

Regards, Yon
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

yon said:
Using Drive Image 7 I have created an image of my hard disk on an
external usb disk. A couple of days ago my hard disk failed; I
installed and formatted a new disk and tried to restore my image using
the stand-alone Drive Image restore cd. Everything seemed to work ok,
except that when it was all finished, I could not boot from the
restored disk - it gave an "A read error has occured" message. There
is nothing wrong with the disk since the emergency Windows XP recovery
disk worked fine to create a running (though 4 years out of date!)
system.

I have two questions: 1. Has anybody any suggestions on what I can do
to get a working restored disk? 2. Can Symantec's Save & Restore
utility read Drive Image images, and can this perhaps be used to
restore the system?

By the way, when installed on my emergency-restored os, the Drive Image
program is able to restore individual files and folders from the
back-up image, so is restoring all the files individually an option
that would create a restored disk? I suspect not.

Regards, Yon

Restoring individual files from a DriveImage will do just this:
It will restore individual files but it won't restore a partition.

You could try and boot your machine with a WinXP floppy
boot disk. Here is how you can make one:
- Format a floppy disk on some other WinXP/2000 PC.
Don't do it on a Win9x PC - it won't work.
- Copy these files from the \i386 folder of your WinXP CD to A:\
ntldr
ntdetect.com
- Create a file a:\boot.ini with these lines
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=3
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP"
/fastdetect

Note that a saved image is fairly useless (same as any other
backup) unless you fully test it at the time of creating it.
 
N

NoStop

Pegasus said:
yon said:
Using Drive Image 7 I have created an image of my hard disk on an
external usb disk. A couple of days ago my hard disk failed; I
installed and formatted a new disk and tried to restore my image using
the stand-alone Drive Image restore cd. Everything seemed to work ok,
except that when it was all finished, I could not boot from the
restored disk - it gave an "A read error has occured" message. There
is nothing wrong with the disk since the emergency Windows XP recovery
disk worked fine to create a running (though 4 years out of date!)
system.

I have two questions: 1. Has anybody any suggestions on what I can do
to get a working restored disk? 2. Can Symantec's Save & Restore
utility read Drive Image images, and can this perhaps be used to
restore the system?

By the way, when installed on my emergency-restored os, the Drive Image
program is able to restore individual files and folders from the
back-up image, so is restoring all the files individually an option
that would create a restored disk? I suspect not.

Regards, Yon

Restoring individual files from a DriveImage will do just this:
It will restore individual files but it won't restore a partition.

You could try and boot your machine with a WinXP floppy
boot disk. Here is how you can make one:
- Format a floppy disk on some other WinXP/2000 PC.
Don't do it on a Win9x PC - it won't work.
- Copy these files from the \i386 folder of your WinXP CD to A:\
ntldr
ntdetect.com
- Create a file a:\boot.ini with these lines
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=3
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP"
/fastdetect

Note that a saved image is fairly useless (same as any other
backup) unless you fully test it at the time of creating it.

And how would you suggest that the OP "fully test" this drive image at the
time of creating it? Should he have tried to restore it and end up in the
same position he is today? Should he have purchased a new hard drive and
tried to restore it to that? Just curious how you would have "fully" tested
such a backup.


--
Linux is ready for the desktop! More ready than Windoze XP.
http://tinyurl.com/ldm9d

You just can't play games on Linux!
http://tinyurl.com/kgszl
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

NoStop said:
Pegasus said:
yon said:
Using Drive Image 7 I have created an image of my hard disk on an
external usb disk. A couple of days ago my hard disk failed; I
installed and formatted a new disk and tried to restore my image using
the stand-alone Drive Image restore cd. Everything seemed to work ok,
except that when it was all finished, I could not boot from the
restored disk - it gave an "A read error has occured" message. There
is nothing wrong with the disk since the emergency Windows XP recovery
disk worked fine to create a running (though 4 years out of date!)
system.

I have two questions: 1. Has anybody any suggestions on what I can do
to get a working restored disk? 2. Can Symantec's Save & Restore
utility read Drive Image images, and can this perhaps be used to
restore the system?

By the way, when installed on my emergency-restored os, the Drive Image
program is able to restore individual files and folders from the
back-up image, so is restoring all the files individually an option
that would create a restored disk? I suspect not.

Regards, Yon

Restoring individual files from a DriveImage will do just this:
It will restore individual files but it won't restore a partition.

You could try and boot your machine with a WinXP floppy
boot disk. Here is how you can make one:
- Format a floppy disk on some other WinXP/2000 PC.
Don't do it on a Win9x PC - it won't work.
- Copy these files from the \i386 folder of your WinXP CD to A:\
ntldr
ntdetect.com
- Create a file a:\boot.ini with these lines
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=3
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP"
/fastdetect

Note that a saved image is fairly useless (same as any other
backup) unless you fully test it at the time of creating it.

And how would you suggest that the OP "fully test" this drive image at the
time of creating it? Should he have tried to restore it and end up in the
same position he is today? Should he have purchased a new hard drive and
tried to restore it to that? Just curious how you would have "fully" tested
such a backup.


--
Linux is ready for the desktop! More ready than Windoze XP.
http://tinyurl.com/ldm9d

You just can't play games on Linux!
http://tinyurl.com/kgszl

I would go to my PC dealer and ask for a small second-hand disk,
e.g. 10 GBytes, then use it for the restoration effort. Nobody wants
10 GByte disks any more!
 
J

Jonny

yon said:
Using Drive Image 7 I have created an image of my hard disk on an
external usb disk. A couple of days ago my hard disk failed; I
installed and formatted a new disk and tried to restore my image using
the stand-alone Drive Image restore cd. Everything seemed to work ok,
except that when it was all finished, I could not boot from the
restored disk - it gave an "A read error has occured" message. There
is nothing wrong with the disk since the emergency Windows XP recovery
disk worked fine to create a running (though 4 years out of date!)
system.

I have two questions: 1. Has anybody any suggestions on what I can do
to get a working restored disk? 2. Can Symantec's Save & Restore
utility read Drive Image images, and can this perhaps be used to
restore the system?

By the way, when installed on my emergency-restored os, the Drive Image
program is able to restore individual files and folders from the
back-up image, so is restoring all the files individually an option
that would create a restored disk? I suspect not.

Regards, Yon

There are a few options within the imaging function of DI 7. One of these
is verifying the image after the image file(s) have been created. This is
selected prior to actually performing the image process. This is also true
when restoring from the image file(s) to the hard disk. Also, during
restoration, there are two options that should be selected other than
verifying, regarding the recovering the original mbr and SID.

Actually restoring an image on a regular basis to verify its usability is
impractical, in my opinion. The user should take all precautions within the
DI 7 program to assure usability of the restored data.

Formatting a hard disk before restoring an image file is both a waste of
time, and could warrant other problems at the root of the hard drive during
image restoration. The image contains mbr, SID, partition, filesystem, and
file data. All of which are restored. In this process, a partition is
created, and a filesystem that contains the format layout of the partition.

Am assuming both the former and present hard drives contain a common boot
and system partition. And, are the same partition.
 
N

NoStop

Pegasus said:
NoStop said:
Pegasus said:
Using Drive Image 7 I have created an image of my hard disk on an
external usb disk. A couple of days ago my hard disk failed; I
installed and formatted a new disk and tried to restore my image using
the stand-alone Drive Image restore cd. Everything seemed to work ok,
except that when it was all finished, I could not boot from the
restored disk - it gave an "A read error has occured" message. There
is nothing wrong with the disk since the emergency Windows XP recovery
disk worked fine to create a running (though 4 years out of date!)
system.

I have two questions: 1. Has anybody any suggestions on what I can do
to get a working restored disk? 2. Can Symantec's Save & Restore
utility read Drive Image images, and can this perhaps be used to
restore the system?

By the way, when installed on my emergency-restored os, the Drive
Image program is able to restore individual files and folders from the
back-up image, so is restoring all the files individually an option
that would create a restored disk? I suspect not.

Regards, Yon


Restoring individual files from a DriveImage will do just this:
It will restore individual files but it won't restore a partition.

You could try and boot your machine with a WinXP floppy
boot disk. Here is how you can make one:
- Format a floppy disk on some other WinXP/2000 PC.
Don't do it on a Win9x PC - it won't work.
- Copy these files from the \i386 folder of your WinXP CD to A:\
ntldr
ntdetect.com
- Create a file a:\boot.ini with these lines
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=3
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP"
/fastdetect

Note that a saved image is fairly useless (same as any other
backup) unless you fully test it at the time of creating it.

And how would you suggest that the OP "fully test" this drive image at
the time of creating it? Should he have tried to restore it and end up in
the same position he is today? Should he have purchased a new hard drive
and tried to restore it to that? Just curious how you would have "fully" tested
such a backup.


--
Linux is ready for the desktop! More ready than Windoze XP.
http://tinyurl.com/ldm9d

You just can't play games on Linux!
http://tinyurl.com/kgszl

I would go to my PC dealer and ask for a small second-hand disk,
e.g. 10 GBytes, then use it for the restoration effort. Nobody wants
10 GByte disks any more!

And what if the OP required a larger hard drive? What makes you think 10GB
would be adequate? And are you REALLY suggesting that you'd go to all the
hassle of finding a used hard drive, installing it in your computer just to
do a test of an image backup? And then I'd assume that after the test you'd
remove this hard drive and the next time you made a backup you'd go to the
trouble of tearing into your box and installing this "test hard drive"
again for your next test.

I think you're stretching this a bit and it's starting to sound like
bullshit. You wouldn't do that and no one else would do that. We rely on
TrueImage to create good backups. We might go to the trouble to test the
backup image, but that's as far as any ordinary computer user would go.

The problem the OP is experiencing is either he didn't backup the whole hard
drive to an image like he says he did. Or, he did that but upon restore he
tried to restore to a hard drive of a different size and didn't adequately
deal with fixing the new partitions. Maybe a simple fix of his mbr would
bring back his system?

Cheers.

--
Linux is ready for the desktop! More ready than Windoze XP.
http://tinyurl.com/ldm9d

You just can't play games on Linux!
http://tinyurl.com/kgszl
 
Y

yon

Jonny, are you suggesting that I should erase the partition I have
created before the restore? Also, the original partition was 40G and
the new one is 80G; DI did not enable the option to expand to the full
size. I did tell it to check the restored image, and it did not
produce any error messages.

Regards, Yon
 
R

Rock

Jonny, are you suggesting that I should erase the partition I have
created before the restore? Also, the original partition was 40G and
the new one is 80G; DI did not enable the option to expand to the full
size. I did tell it to check the restored image, and it did not
produce any error messages.

Regards, Yon

I would try deleting the partition and restore again.
 

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