Drive Filling Up

R

Ray Woodcock

I am using WinXP on an 8 GB drive C partition (NTFS). This
installation is now taking about 6 GB. How is that possible?

Hibernation is off.
System restore is off.
C:\Windows\Temp is virtually empty.
There's about 350 MB in Recycler.
Temporary Internet Files are on another partition.
Pagefile.sys and data files are all on other partitions.

The other question: is there a freeware utility that will tell me how
many MB each folder on C contains? With such a tool, I could track
down the culprit.
 
G

Guest

You could also go to 'Start > Run' and type in CMD

When at the command prompt type: CD C:\

Then, type: DIR /s > list.txt

THis will put a directory listing of each and every
folder on drive C into a file called list.txt in your
root directory of drive C. It will probably be a huge
file, but it will also list the name, length, etc. of
every file on your drive.
 
W

Wislu Plethora

-----Original Message-----
I am using WinXP on an 8 GB drive C partition (NTFS). This
installation is now taking about 6 GB. How is that possible?

Hibernation is off.
System restore is off.
C:\Windows\Temp is virtually empty.
There's about 350 MB in Recycler.
Temporary Internet Files are on another partition.
Pagefile.sys and data files are all on other partitions.

The other question: is there a freeware utility that will tell me how
many MB each folder on C contains? With such a tool, I could track
down the culprit.
.

You probably already have a tool that will identify the
culprit. It's hanging on the wall in your bathroom.
 
R

Ramesh [MVP]

Ray,

You could try this utility, DiskDATA:
http://www.digallery.com/diskdata/

http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/space.htm

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Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k
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I am using WinXP on an 8 GB drive C partition (NTFS). This
installation is now taking about 6 GB. How is that possible?

Hibernation is off.
System restore is off.
C:\Windows\Temp is virtually empty.
There's about 350 MB in Recycler.
Temporary Internet Files are on another partition.
Pagefile.sys and data files are all on other partitions.

The other question: is there a freeware utility that will tell me how
many MB each folder on C contains? With such a tool, I could track
down the culprit.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Use Windows Explorer! You don't need to import a third party utility!!!

To see what is on your hard drive you need to change a number of settings. Select Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings, and check "Show hidden files and folders". Whilst there uncheck "Hide File Extensions". Also check "Display the contents of system folders".

Next enter Windows Explorer and select View, Details and then select Choose Details -check all options except "Comments" and "File System".

Now to find the larger files on your system. Place the cursor on your C drive and select Search, check All Files and Folders. Select further criteria, What size is it? -check "Large (more than 1 mb)", More advanced options -check Search System Folders, Search Hidden Files and Folders and Search Sub-folders" and then click on Search. Sort / resort the results by clicking on "Size" over the file size column. Make a list of the largest files and post the details here.



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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.

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R

Ray Woodcock

The other question: is there a freeware utility that
will tell me how
could track down the culprit.

You probably already have a tool that will identify the
culprit. It's hanging on the wall in your bathroom.


OK, that's pretty funny. What's the point of having a computer, if it
doesn't make you laugh now and then?

But, I protest, it's not the answer. I'm only just running the
system, same as I've been doing for years (DOS, OS/2, Win98, etc.).
Drive C is on its own mission, separate from mine. It filleth apace;
I am perpetually empty.
 
R

Ray Woodcock

I am using WinXP on an 8 GB drive C partition (NTFS). This
Now to find the larger files on your system. Place the cursor on your C
drive and select Search, check All Files and Folders. Select further
criteria, What size is it? -check "Large (more than 1 mb)", More
advanced options -check Search System Folders, Search Hidden Files and
Folders and Search Sub-folders" and then click on Search. Sort / resort
the results by clicking on "Size" over the file size column. Make a list
of the largest files and post the details here.


I exported the list to Excel via DIR /s. I'm pretty familiar with
that method. But I got confusing results:

1. I use Windows Explorer with the Folder List visible. I
right-click on C: in the Folder list and choose Properties. It shows
a pie chart and says 6.4 billion bytes (5.96 GB) are used. But if,
instead, I select everything in the right pane of Windows Explorer and
choose Properties, it says only 5.6 billion bytes (5.21 GB) (size on
disk = 5.5 billion bytes (5.07 GB)). Why the discrepancy?

2. The latter method in Windows Explorer says 36,483 files. The
spreadsheet says 42,605. How come?

3. According to the spreadsheet, the files of at least 5 MB (or so)
are:

themedef.mar 4,929,284
Microsoft Outlook 98 Security Patch -- 8-11-98 -- outptch2.exe
4,973,368
nero.exe 5,001,216
usrguide.pdf 5,135,853
system 5,242,880
index00.str 5,252,185
OHotfix(00001)_Msi.log 5,255,384
Microsoft Outlook 98 Archive Patch -- arch98en.exe 5,255,496
DISTSADB.DOS 5,265,765
DriveImage9x.exe 5,316,685
ACWZMAIN.MDE 5,345,280
Crpe32.dll 5,350,912
ACROHELP.PDF 5,359,361
DriveImageNT.exe 5,382,215
MFC3420C_UsaEngSoft.pdf 5,431,125
OHotfix(00002)_Msi.log 5,537,508
MSO9.DLL 5,599,281
SP_A052C3E962C84B7995ACB1AB75A4DADF.dat 5,631,764
4FLZZB3F.ZIP 5,751,849
MSACCESS.EXE 5,777,936
47a50.msi 5,885,952
OBJECTS.DATA 5,906,432
Dc1030.avi 5,987,626
POWERPNT.EXE 5,990,928
Atmosphere.dll 6,012,928
00010001.SAV 6,108,082
Dc208.max 6,214,760
OUTLLIB.DLL 6,326,984
PreflightLib.dll 6,537,216
MSB1ENES.ITS 6,586,648
MSB1FREN.ITS 6,966,403
MSB1ESEN.ITS 7,003,007
enc00f.str 7,088,426
2ebd74.msp 7,100,416
2ebdb2.msp 7,100,416
OWC10.DLL 7,334,592
MSB1ENFR.ITS 7,414,729
encart00.dat 7,575,270
drwtsn32.log 7,670,728
segment5.swf 7,679,963
PixelToolbox.exe 7,686,908
lpt$vpn.803 7,895,714
LPT$VPN.803 7,895,714
VPTNFILE.803 7,895,714
ACWZTOOL.MDE 8,019,968
software 8,187,904
ACWZDAT.MDT 8,232,960
shell32.dll 8,239,616
shell32.dll 8,239,616
shell32.dll 8,239,616
shell32.dll 8,240,640
msgothic.ttc 8,272,028
shell32.dll 8,336,384
shell32.dll 8,348,160
shell32.dll 8,348,160
setup.exe 8,479,928
ntuser.dat 8,650,752
mingliu.ttc 8,823,308
msmincho.ttc 9,135,960
EXCEL.EXE 9,189,896
26097f.msp 9,585,468
imjpzp.dic 9,588,736
L1033.DLM 9,680,237
MSO.DLL 9,796,288
249477f.msi 9,997,824
PINTLGS.IMD 10,011,497
simhei.ttf 10,044,356
hwxcht.dll 10,096,640
HWXCHT.DLL 10,096,640
hwxkor.dll 10,129,408
hwxkor.dll 10,129,408
mpsetupxp.exe 10,135,688
sp1.cab 10,158,890
Acrobat.exe 10,219,587
Thursday, February 26, 2004.max 10,333,672
HCdata.edb 10,493,952
simsun.ttc 10,500,792
WINWORD.EXE 10,623,688
imjpnm.dic 10,653,696
Dc873.txt 11,324,190
Microsoft FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions 4.0.2.4317 --
fpse2k_x86_ENG.exe 11,632,352
oembios.bin 13,107,200
oembios.bin 13,107,200
hwxjpn.dll 13,463,552
hwxjpn.dll 13,463,552
gulim.ttc 13,518,660
imjpst.dic 14,688,256
37c485.msp 15,605,132
Ac60PrP1.exe 15,919,168
batang.ttc 16,258,580
346d91.msp 17,455,616
34712d.msp 17,455,616
30bd6.msi 18,174,464
ARIALUNI.TTF 23,274,572
software 23,592,960
L1033.NGR 24,318,736
59c641b.msp 27,412,992
SLPhotoBasic.exe 31,133,751
5E516154 47,564,990
driver.cab 76,699,621
Acr4.tmp 143,559,389

Lots of information here, but I'm not sure what to do with it.
Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions.
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Ray

That's one hell of a list!

Do you have the freebie Adobe Reader or the full paid for Adobe Acrobat installed. What versions?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
J

Jeff Qiu [MSFT]

Hi Ray,

Thanks for posting!

Based on your file list, it seems you have keep the installation files of
the XP on that partition.

At the same time, you have also installed some applications like MS Office,
Adobe Reader and so now.

The more applications you install, the more space it will take.

There is not a build-in tool to show the size of each folder. You may right
click each folder to check.

Based on my experience, I suggest you may right click each folder in Program
files folder to see if any program installed is taking a lot of space.

At the same time, you may empty the Temp folder and the Temporarily Internet
Files folder to save space.

Hope this helps.

Have a great day!

Best Regards,

Jeff Qiu
Microsoft Online Partner Support
MCSE 2k/2k3, MCSA 2k/2k3, MCDBA
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties and confers no rights.

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R

Ray Woodcock

Summaries and follow-ups:

*** My Original Questions ***

I am using WinXP on an 8 GB drive C partition (NTFS). This
installation is now taking about 6 GB. How is that possible?

Hibernation is off.
System restore is off.
C:\Windows\Temp is virtually empty.
There's about 350 MB in Recycler.
Temporary Internet Files are on another partition.
Pagefile.sys and data files are all on other partitions.

The other question: is there a freeware utility that will tell me how
many MB each folder on C contains? With such a tool, I could track
down the culprit.


*** What I've Figured Out about the Size Issue ***

I reformatted C as FAT32, and reinstalled WinXP and other programs on
that. The total installation, with all software installed previously
and some more besides, took only about 4 GB. I still have no idea why
the previous NTFS installation swelled as it did.

Following suggestions on some Windows XP tips & tweaks websites, I
have moved two folders from C to D, and have instructed the registry
to look to D for those folders. These folders contained about 450 MB
of materials that evidently are not needed for the operation of WinXP.
Those two folders were DLLCache (originally located, as I recall, in
C:\Windows) and DriverCache (which I think was in
C:\Windows\System32). This significantly reduced the size of C. The
system seems to be running fine after the change.


*** Jeff Qiu's Response (Excerpts) ***
Based on your file list, it seems you have keep the installation files of
the XP on that partition.
There is not a build-in tool to show the size of each folder. You may right
click each folder to check.


*** Question about Jeff Qiu's Response ***

Am I correct in understanding that installation files bear an .ISU
extension, and are no longer needed after installation? If so, I have
only about ten of those on my computer, containing zero bytes.

I am not certain how Jeff came to this conclusion, or whether there is
someplace else I should look for deletable installation files.


*** Suggestion from Anonymous ***
[To locate space-taking files, at the DOS prompt, type] DIR /s > list.txt

I have used this. You can import TXT files into Excel and sort to see
where the big files are. Unfortunately, this is really cumbersome
compared to Size Manager.

PowerDesk98 Utilities contained a tool called Size Manager that would
display bar graphs for each drive (or, if you wished, for each folder
or subfolder on a drive), showing the total amount of material in each
folder.


*** Suggestion from Ramesh; Reply ***

You could try this utility, DiskDATA:
http://www.digallery.com/diskdata/

[Unfortunately, they want $45 for that. That's a lot for a simple
utility.]


*** Suggestion from Gerry Cornell ***

Use Windows Explorer! You don't need to import a third party
utility!!! ...

Make a list of the largest files and post the details here.


*** Questions about the File List ***

I posted these questions in response to Gerry's suggestion. I still
am not certain of the answers:

1. I use Windows Explorer with the Folder List visible. I
right-click on C: in the Folder list and choose Properties. It shows
a pie chart and says 6.4 billion bytes (5.96 GB) are used. But if,
instead, I select everything in the right pane of Windows Explorer and
choose Properties, it says only 5.6 billion bytes (5.21 GB) (size on
disk = 5.5 billion bytes (5.07 GB)). Why the discrepancy?

2. The latter method in Windows Explorer says 36,483 files. The
spreadsheet says 42,605. How come?

I did post a file list as suggested, but did not receive any specific
suggestions about files that I might remove.
 
R

Ray Woodcock

The other question: is there a freeware utility that will tell me how
many MB each folder on C contains? With such a tool, I could track
down the culprit.

Yes! There is a freeware utility that will show how much space each
folder is taking. It is TreeSize. I got it at Hotfiles.com (ZDNet).

Even better, with a more visible bar graph presenting the size of each
folder: i.Disk, from the same source.

You can probably also get these freebies at Tucows or Dave's or
whoever is doing freeware these days.
 

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