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I downloaded the SP2 off the microsoft CD {which I
ordered & it came within 2 days} & it took about 16
minutes & seems like everything is just fine....After all
the stories I've read I was very hesitant but it was too
easy actually.
Now I have to figure out if I need to un-install E-Trust
anti-virus, the Zone Labs fire-wall & spybot etc...Any
suggestions? I did read that the 2 fire-walls could cause
a conflict so I will more than likely get rid of zone
labs. Now I just hope this update is as good as it's
cracked up to be.

JD+ {I see there's 2 JD's so I am using the + sign with
my initials}.
 
Hi JD, :)

I think a lot of teckies around here are way to serious and split a lot of
hairs because they love to argue and debate over fine points of perfection.
I do my share too, when wearing my techie hat, BUT

You are in great shap and only need a couple of settings.

First, I would sugest to run two firewalls as they are serving differnt
function at differnet times which overlaying mostly, with no problamatic
affect.

So just add the Zonealarm programe name to the WFW's exception list. You get
the binefit of WFW early startup blocking, and ZA controls outgoing ports.

Yes, keep you AV going. Windows does NOT have any Anti-Virus what so ever
and it is needed.

Keep sybot and get Ad-Ware also and run them often.


Just two things to make sure of,
does your e-trust scan the emial (and other protocols).
You need an AV that protects the e-mail steam.
Make sure that ZA is the latest version.

Just for the record as a reminder for everyone.
Norton AV2005 update is only $29.95 and a 5 pack is $119.50.
The NIS update is only $39.95 wich is NAV and Firewall, and a lot more.

I spent $24.95 on a bios e-mail file today.
I had to show for oddball household goods like lightblubs, batteries, T/P,
disk soup, etc and the total was $59.95.
I won't need to do that agin for may weeks.

Think about that old saying,
a penny wise but a pound foolish.


It's time to make the computing world safer and the tools are available.
JUST DO IT.

SJ
 
| Hi JD, :)
| First, I would sugest to run two firewalls as they are serving differnt
| function at differnet times which overlaying mostly, with no problamatic
| affect.

FWIW running two software firewalls is *not* recommended. They do not
perform different functions and the potential for conflict exists.

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details. :)

Remove shoes to E-mail.
 
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SlowJet said:
Hi JD, :)

I think a lot of teckies around here are way to serious and split a lot
of hairs because they love to argue and debate over fine points of
perfection.
I do my share too, when wearing my techie hat, BUT

You are in great shap and only need a couple of settings.

First, I would sugest to run two firewalls as they are serving differnt
function at differnet times which overlaying mostly, with no problamatic
affect.

So just add the Zonealarm programe name to the WFW's exception list. You
get the binefit of WFW early startup blocking, and ZA controls outgoing
ports.

Yes, keep you AV going. Windows does NOT have any Anti-Virus what so ever
and it is needed.

Keep sybot and get Ad-Ware also and run them often.


Just two things to make sure of,
does your e-trust scan the emial (and other protocols).
You need an AV that protects the e-mail steam.
Make sure that ZA is the latest version.

Scanning mail is unnecessary and can cause corruption of the email message
store.
Backup your email.
 
See what I mean?
perform different functions and the potential for conflict exists.<<<<

Most parrots regurating this crap have no idea when, where, or why it
happens and couldn't make it happen on a battery of tests on a personal
computer with one user runing 2 or 3 net apps with intermitt I/O.

Show us the statistics of any signifigant problems.
Put the math where your mouth is. :)
store.<<<


That's the dumbest think I have ever heard. How to you think the e-mail
virus are caught by NAV or Mcafee and other AV programs? You're on the wrong
page.

Again, show us the statistics of why your parrot food is good for our
feathers. :)

SJ
 
JD+ said:
I downloaded the SP2 off the microsoft CD {which I
ordered & it came within 2 days} & it took about 16
minutes & seems like everything is just fine....After all
the stories I've read I was very hesitant but it was too
easy actually.
Now I have to figure out if I need to un-install E-Trust
anti-virus, the Zone Labs fire-wall & spybot etc...Any
suggestions? I did read that the 2 fire-walls could cause
a conflict so I will more than likely get rid of zone
labs. Now I just hope this update is as good as it's
cracked up to be.

JD+ {I see there's 2 JD's so I am using the + sign with
my initials}.

Turn off the windows firewall and use zone alarm. The windows firewall
does not protect against outbound activities. If a nasty gets on your
system it can call home freely.

SP2 doesn't have antivirus so don't get rid of E-trust.

You still need to scan for other malware so keep Spybot, Adaware and the
other spyware checking programs. Scans should be done at least weekly
in safe mode. Update them before running.
 
| See what I mean?
|
| >>>running two software firewalls is *not* recommended. They do not
| perform different functions and the potential for conflict exists.<<<<
|
| Most parrots regurating this crap have no idea when, where, or why it
| happens and couldn't make it happen on a battery of tests on a personal
| computer with one user runing 2 or 3 net apps with intermitt I/O.
|
| Show us the statistics of any signifigant problems.
| Put the math where your mouth is. :)
|

I have no real illusions that the following links from universities,
firewall experts and the folks that wrote the operating system will sway
your judgement but the information might be useful to more open minded
individuals.

Do I personally have any statistics? I do not. I've never run two firewalls
at the same time. People far more knowledgeable than myself advise against
it.

Likewise I have never mixed my blood pressure medications with certain other
medicines. People far more knowledgeable than mysef say it's a bad idea. I
tend to believe them.


From (cached version firewallguide.com);
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cach....htm+"two+software+firewalls&hl=en&lr=lang_en

"Never use two software firewalls"

From; http://www.access.globalknowledge.com/Article.asp?ID=5140

"You're right, using two software firewalls would be a disaster."

From; http://www.cites.uiuc.edu/firewall/thirdparty.html

"Note: If you install a third-party firewall on Windows XP, turn off ICF.
You shouldn't run two different software firewalls on the same computer."

From;
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/broadbandnetworking/10_concept_security_help.mspx

"Running two firewalls on your network at the same time will lead to
connectivity and speed issues with your Internet access."

From; http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/firewall.mspx

"Q. Should I use both the built-in firewall and a software firewall from a
different company on my Windows XP computer?

A. No. Running multiple software firewalls is unnecessary for typical home
computers, home networking, and small-business networking scenarios. Using
two firewalls on the same connection could cause issues with connectivity to
the Internet or other unexpected behavior. One firewall, whether it is the
Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall or a different software firewall,
can provide substantial protection for your computer."


| >>>Scanning mail is unnecessary and can cause corruption of the email
| >>>message
| store.<<<
|
|
| That's the dumbest think I have ever heard. How to you think the e-mail
| virus are caught by NAV or Mcafee and other AV programs? You're on the
wrong
| page.
|

I didn't make the comment on email scanners (and I don't necessarily agree
with the statement) but I will comment on your response.

As the email scanner portion of an antivirus program uses the same scanning
engine and the same set of virus signatures it stands to reason that the
same infector could be detected by either the email scanner *or* the
resident real-time scanner. The only difference is when. The email scanner
detects it when it's downloaded, the real-time scanner detects it when an
attempt to execute it is made.
 

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