'Domian' field missing at logon

[Mister X]

Can anyone help with this....

My friend was having some problems accessing the internet on his old work
laptop that he has for personal use.

I decided to 'help' him by tinkering with a few settings. Now, when he
tries to logon, only the USERNAME and PASSWORD fields are there, the DOMAIN
field has disappeared.

When he enters his username and password it just tells him it's wrong.

What on earth have I done? Can any of you suggest a way to login?

I feel quite ill now.

X

 

[Herb Martin]

Can anyone help with this....

My friend was having some problems accessing the internet on his old work
laptop that he has for personal use.

I decided to 'help' him by tinkering with a few settings. Now, when he
tries to logon, only the USERNAME and PASSWORD fields are there, the DOMAIN
field has disappeared.

When he enters his username and password it just tells him it's wrong.

IF you just cannot see the FIELD, then there is a button on the
logon that says, "Optoins >>" if the domain is still available.

IF you actually took it out of the domain (in the System control panel)
then he must return it to the office and have (perhaps) the admins add
it back to the domain.

What on earth have I done? Can any of you suggest a way to login?

I feel quite ill now.

You should <grin>

 

[Mister X]

IF you just cannot see the FIELD, then there is a button on the
logon that says, "Optoins >>" if the domain is still available.
IF you actually took it out of the domain (in the System control panel)
then he must return it to the office and have (perhaps) the admins add
it back to the domain.

Oh dear - in that case I must have removed it - it is gone even when you
click options.

You should <grin>

Evvviiilll!


Do you know if any of these password crack apps work, or is it just a con:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7131713758&fromMakeTrack=true

X

 

[Herb Martin]

Evvviiilll!


Do you know if any of these password crack apps work, or is it just a con:

Yes, some of them work, but I don't know which ones and
before we make it worse...

If you continue and violate the security on the machine and
harm it, will that be worse for your friend and yourself or
just finding the admins now?

One issue is if this machine is now "out of their control"
anyway which means he won't likely get into any (serious)
trouble.

You do realize that if he doesn't know the admin password,
then that REALLY belongs to the admins and that cracking
that may violate his employment agreement?

First read this one at Microsoft.com:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258289

Then, just Google for this:

[ forgot | lost password windows 2000 microsoft: ]

The top entry should be:
http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm

He offers methods and tool with recommendations.

 

[Mister X]

Yes, some of them work, but I don't know which ones and
before we make it worse...

If you continue and violate the security on the machine and
harm it, will that be worse for your friend and yourself or
just finding the admins now?

One issue is if this machine is now "out of their control"
anyway which means he won't likely get into any (serious)
trouble.

You do realize that if he doesn't know the admin password,
then that REALLY belongs to the admins and that cracking
that may violate his employment agreement?

First read this one at Microsoft.com:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258289

Then, just Google for this:

[ forgot | lost password windows 2000 microsoft: ]

The top entry should be:
http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm

He offers methods and tool with recommendations.

Thank you, Herb. I'll scour those websites you suggested.

Regarding the ownership of the laptop, he bought it off the company when he
left a couple of years back, and the company was dissolved about 18 months
ago, so he owns it legitimately. But, of course, there are now no admins or
IT department to go back to!

X

 

[Herb Martin]

Regarding the ownership of the laptop, he bought it off the company when
he

left a couple of years back, and the company was dissolved about 18 months
ago, so he owns it legitimately. But, of course, there are now no admins or
IT department to go back to!

That wasn't clear in the first post.

The implication was that it might be a loner,
but that somehow or other it was still a company
PC.

In this case you MUST break in, and in fact if
he didn't have the Admin password this was
going to happen sooner or later.

The real fault is in:

1) Not getting the admin password at sale
(or failing to remember it)

2) Not insuring that IF he had an admin capable
account, that ANOTHER was created before
screwing with it.

Next time, get him an admin account with a REALLY
hard password, and lock it up in a file cabinet so only
he knows where it is located.

Hard password = MORE than 14 characters (really),
with complexity: UPPER/lower case, numbers AND
special characters!@#$!%^ (and not based on words
or anything about his kids, other relatives, birthdate,
etc.


--
Herb Martin

Yes, some of them work, but I don't know which ones and
before we make it worse...

If you continue and violate the security on the machine and
harm it, will that be worse for your friend and yourself or
just finding the admins now?

One issue is if this machine is now "out of their control"
anyway which means he won't likely get into any (serious)
trouble.

You do realize that if he doesn't know the admin password,
then that REALLY belongs to the admins and that cracking
that may violate his employment agreement?

First read this one at Microsoft.com:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;258289

Then, just Google for this:

[ forgot | lost password windows 2000 microsoft: ]

The top entry should be:
http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm

He offers methods and tool with recommendations.

Thank you, Herb. I'll scour those websites you suggested.

Regarding the ownership of the laptop, he bought it off the company when he
left a couple of years back, and the company was dissolved about 18 months
ago, so he owns it legitimately. But, of course, there are now no admins or
IT department to go back to!

X

 

[Mister X]

That wasn't clear in the first post.

The implication was that it might be a loner,
but that somehow or other it was still a company
PC.

In this case you MUST break in, and in fact if
he didn't have the Admin password this was
going to happen sooner or later.

The real fault is in:

1) Not getting the admin password at sale
(or failing to remember it)

2) Not insuring that IF he had an admin capable
account, that ANOTHER was created before
screwing with it.

Next time, get him an admin account with a REALLY
hard password, and lock it up in a file cabinet so only
he knows where it is located.

Hard password = MORE than 14 characters (really),
with complexity: UPPER/lower case, numbers AND
special characters!@#$!%^ (and not based on words
or anything about his kids, other relatives, birthdate,
etc.

Thank you for your advice. I'll relay this to my annoyed friend.

Cheers,

X