Does any one have a good Registry Cleaner?

[Steve N.]

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Well, my problem was that the start up applications were conflicting with
each other, thus enlongating the system start up process. I dont know what
fixed it, but I did deleted the wrong entries, striped the system down to the
most critical items, and now it is working fine. Altough, I am not satisfied
because I had to do so on a new computer, which I think should be able to
handle more than 30 startup up items. (Those 30 items where already
installed in my PC, you know bundled software. I have a good processor and
RAM, but still, they were conflicting with each other.) Now I am down to 7
essential items. I can strip it donw more, but I think I might live with
that.

The best ways to deal with a situation like that is to remove the
unwanted programs with Add/Remove Programs and use MSConfig to disable
wanted applications from running at startup. In some cases disabling
services installed by the applications may also be necessary.

Steve N.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Jeez, that's ignorant, Bruce.

Ignorant, why, precisely? Because it's based upon years of direct
experience supporting all levels of users on many different makes and
models of computers, rather than the unsubstantiated marketing hype of
some software companies? You certainly haven't provided any links to
any objective tests of registry cleaners.

"Nothing" is "truly safe" in the
sense you're talking about.

True, but placing a loaded gun (automated registry cleaner) into the
hands of a toddler (the average home computer user) is unnecessarily
dangerous, even if the gun's manual does tell the toddler how to engage
the safety (backup and restore the registry).

I wish you'd figure out the real
world;

That is where I live, and upon which I based my advice: direct
experience in the real world.

you've been saying that same boilerplate for years.

And I'll continue to do so until someone proves me wrong. Care to step
up to the challenge? (I mean beyond name-calling; try reacting like an
adult.)

Even
MS tells you how to rebuild the registry to straighten it out.

Where? When? Please provide a link to a site where Microsoft says any
such thing. Oh, and what specific automated registry cleaner does
Microsoft allegedly recommend? (I won't hold my breath waiting for a
rational answer.)



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[Edward W. Thompson]

Ignorant, why, precisely? Because it's based upon years of direct
experience supporting all levels of users on many different makes and
models of computers, rather than the unsubstantiated marketing hype of
some software companies? You certainly haven't provided any links to any
objective tests of registry cleaners.

And neither have you other the same unjustified nonsense you continuously
post concerning 'Registry Cleaners'. Your so called evidence that Registry
Cleaners do/will create problems with WINXP is purely anecdotal. Where is
your 'evidence' that Registry Cleaners will damage the OS? Where is your
evidence that the damage to the OS was caused by a Registry Cleaner?

Was the event(s) that caused the damage repeatable and if so please advise
the specifics so we may all benefit. Conflicts between programs are not
uncommon (less so now than previously I think) and are not confined to
Registry Cleaners. However, if a Registry Cleaner damages the operating
system (WINXP) this clearly is a fundemental problem of the software and
should be easy to demonstrate. I have run a variety of Registry Cleaners
on several machines since WINXP was introduced and have never experienced a
problem with the OS although there has been an isolated example where a
particular 'Cleaner' offered to delete an empty key required by a particular
program.

The implied suggestion that Registry Cleaners somehow operate differently
when installed on different machines with different hardware and software is
nothing but rubbish. If you believe otherwise, please provide the evidence
by citing specifics of the hardware and the software that will create a
problem when a Registry Cleaner is 'run'.

What I will agree, is it is there is no evidence that Registry Cleaners will
solve/cure problems with a defective machine or program and in that respect
they do not represent 'value for money'. They do, however, clear out much
of the redundant entries left by poorly written programs that have been
removed from a machine. If that is important to the user then they have a
purpose.

True, but placing a loaded gun (automated registry cleaner) into the hands
of a toddler (the average home computer user) is unnecessarily dangerous,
even if the gun's manual does tell the toddler how to engage the safety
(backup and restore the registry).

You clearly have a very low opinion of the capability of the average user.
Your knowlege of the capability of the average user is based upon what? A
very small sample of the average user and only those who have a problem.

That is where I live, and upon which I based my advice: direct experience
in the real world.




And I'll continue to do so until someone proves me wrong. Care to step up
to the challenge? (I mean beyond name-calling; try reacting like an
adult.)




Where? When? Please provide a link to a site where Microsoft says any
such thing. Oh, and what specific automated registry cleaner does
Microsoft allegedly recommend? (I won't hold my breath waiting for a
rational answer.)

Microsot use to advertise System Mechanic in their list of 'approved'
software, at least I assume it was 'approved' or else why was it advertised
on the MS site? Whether approved is the same as recommended is a matter of
opinion I suspect.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Your so called evidence that Registry
Cleaners do/will create problems with WINXP is purely anecdotal.

Yes, it's anecdotal. I never claimed otherwise, and I say so, right in
my post. My opinion of registry "cleaners" is based upon the best
source conceivable to me: personal experience. I've seen the damage
registry cleaners can do. No, not in every single case, but certainly
often enough to warrant my warning inexperienced people to avoid them.

My point was that the "PopS" was claiming I was wrong, and further
resorted to name-calling, but never offered any evidence - not even any
personal experiences of his own - to that end. He was simply trolling.

They do, however, clear out much
of the redundant entries left by poorly written programs that have been
removed from a machine. If that is important to the user then they have a
purpose.

If all the user wishes to do is clear out otherwise harmless orphaned
registry entries, and isn't expecting any sort of improvement in the
behavior or performance of the computer, then I'll concede that there
might conceivably be a very limited "peace of mind" value to the
products. I don't believe, however, that this limited and completely
intangible "benefit" out-weighs the danger inherent in the use of such
products by the unskilled.

You clearly have a very low opinion of the capability of the average user.
Your knowlege of the capability of the average user is based upon what?

Twenty-plus years supporting thousands of computer users (of widely
varying levels of computer knowledge and experience) in government,
corporate, and home environments. All too many people
have bought into the various PC/software manufacturers marketing
claims of easy computing. They believe that their computer should be
no harder to use than a toaster oven; they have neither the
inclination or desire to learn how to safely use their computer.

Microsot use to advertise System Mechanic in their list of 'approved'
software, at least I assume it was 'approved' or else why was it advertised
on the MS site? Whether approved is the same as recommended is a matter of
opinion I suspect.

Approved in what way? If by "approved" you mean that the advertiser's
check cleared, then I suppose you might have a point. Microsoft is,
after all, a business. So they do allow manufacturers of other products
to advertise (for a fee, of course) on their web site. However, there
is a disclaimer that makes it very clear that Microsoft does not
recommend or warrant the suitability, functionality, compatibility, or
safety of any such products:

"Item pictures and descriptions are provided by the manufacturers of the
items. Windows Marketplace is provided for informational purposes only,
and Microsoft makes no representations or warranties, either expressed,
implied or statutory, regarding the items, manufacturers or
compatibility of the items available within. Information within Windows
Marketplace is subject to change without notice. Actual end user
compatibility may vary. The inclusion of an item or manufacturer does
not imply endorsement by Microsoft of the item or manufacturer."



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[Jack]

Try "Ace Utilities". It's the best I have found among many. Try a GOOGLE
search or try www.snapfiles.com

It's shareware with a free test I believe.

Jack

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Jack,

What exactly does cleaning of a Registry achieve? Is it just to keep
onself busy? Or is it to satisfy one's ego? I still don't know the
advantages of cleaning the Registry if the system is running ok!!

If the system is corrupt then clearly the only way is to repair Install
the OS or to do a clean install of the OS but cleaning the registry
won't help! Also, you can't speed up the system by cleaning the
registry. thre is no evidence for this.

 

[Jack]

The system is not corrupt, it's full of junk from un-installed programs,
stuff you don't use anymore and deleted files that the registry still is
referencing. After removing 412 registry entries the first time I used "Ace
Utilities" I recovered 64MB and computer loaded faster and operated. The
registry get full of junk and the more the slower it operates. Anybody that
does not clean the registry is looking for trouble. Be surprised how many
..tmp and .log files are in your computer taking up space and slowing
everything down. "Ace Utilities" gets rid of these also. Go to
www.snapfiles.com and search "Ace Utilities" and then go to the
recommendations for it.

Jack

 

[ANONYMOUS]

So what you are saying is that I should download the trial version and
install it on my system. After 30 days when I decide I don't want it, I
should pay them $30 to uninstall it "properly". Is this correct?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

The system is not corrupt, it's full of junk from un-installed programs,
stuff you don't use anymore and deleted files that the registry still is
referencing. After removing 412 registry entries the first time I used "Ace
Utilities" I recovered 64MB and computer loaded faster and operated.

Maybe, but it's unlikely that the registry entries had any affect on this.

The
registry get full of junk and the more the slower it operates.

Absolute nonsense. That's not at all true.

Anybody that
does not clean the registry is looking for trouble.

Again, absolute nonsense. In fact, just the opposite is generally
true. People who injudiciously use registry cleaners are *more* likely
to have trouble.

Be surprised how many
.tmp and .log files are in your computer taking up space and slowing
everything down.

Absolutely nothing to do with the registry, or performance, but the
removal of such will free up a minuscule amount of disk space. No doubt
the 64 Mb you mentioned.


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[Guest]

Just be carefull...I just downloaded 3 B Registry Cleaner, I ran it and wiped
out all my 64 bit registry and data on registry, apparently anything non 32
was abnormal for this program...end result ? a 100% wrecked pc LOL....Now
this weekend should have my pc back and will have to go to tedious job of
downloading all my updated 64 drivers and all the works in order to restore
my baby back to normal...even erased the ntkrnl.exe...so it was brainless at
all...quite a job...stay away from it, better ask if any Reg. Cleaner is
suitable for a 64 bit OS...
luck

 

[Edward W. Thompson]

Just be carefull...I just downloaded 3 B Registry Cleaner, I ran it and
wiped
out all my 64 bit registry and data on registry, apparently anything non
32
was abnormal for this program...end result ? a 100% wrecked pc
LOL....Now
this weekend should have my pc back and will have to go to tedious job of
downloading all my updated 64 drivers and all the works in order to
restore
my baby back to normal...even erased the ntkrnl.exe...so it was brainless
at
all...quite a job...stay away from it, better ask if any Reg. Cleaner is
suitable for a 64 bit OS...
luck

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What is about 'System Restore', 'ERUNT' and 'Backup' you do not understand?

 

[ANONYMOUS]

Only a fool would believe in Registry Cleaning Programs. There are none
and whatever is out there are nothing but spywares of some kind.

Nobody in their right mind needs a registry cleaner. If the system
isn't working properly then it has nothing to do with the Registry.

hth

 

[ANONYMOUS]

What is about 'System Restore', 'ERUNT' and 'Backup' you do not understand?

Most probably not but if the restore point wasn't created before using
the registry cleaner then it my opinion it is pointless because this
would take you back some 6 weeks ago when Windows was last updated. It
may be too late!!

As the OP's system is now a total wreak, the only way out is a clean
install and re-imaging of it so that these things don't have to happen
again!!

 

[Guest]

As I said first...unable to open and load Windows...just did a fresh
installation of Wx64 and will update all drivers...uffff.....For sure never
will run a registry cleaner utility, not even comming from grandMa LOL..
thanks all for ur kind and quick replies..its nice 2 see ppl. willing to help
others...keep good work...specially for pc noobs as me.