Does any one have a good Registry Cleaner?

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Hey ppl does any one know of a good Registry Cleaner? My cpu is running slow
that usual, did a bit of research, and found out that wrong entries in the
Registry will slow down my comp. Any suggestions? I really dont want to
mess around with the Registry.
 
stuserver said:
Hey ppl does any one know of a good Registry Cleaner?


No, there's no such animal. In fact, *none* of them are truly safe
in the hands of an untrained individual, regardless of cost.

And, anyway, why would you think you need to clean your registry?

What specific problem are you experiencing that you *know* beyond
all reasonable doubt will be fixed by using a registry "cleaner?" If
you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would be far
better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the specific
key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. Why use a shotgun
when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally, the manually changing of
one or two registry entries is far less likely to have the dire
consequences of allowing an automated product to make multiple changes
simultaneously.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change. Having seen the results of inexperienced people
using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.

The only thing needed to safely maintain your registry is knowledge
and Regedit.exe. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain
your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry "cleaner,"
no matter how safe they claim to be.

To date, no one has ever demonstrated, to my satisfaction, that the
use of an automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability.

My cpu is running slow
that usual, did a bit of research, and found out that wrong entries in the
Registry will slow down my comp.


I don't know where or how you conducted your research, but you
apparently didn't consult any source that knows anything about
computers, in general, and the WinXP registry, in particular. While an
incorrect registry can cause problems, there is no automated registry
"cleaner" that could detect and correct such an improper configuration.

Any suggestions?


Have you performed a disk cleanup? When did you last defrag the hard
drive? Have you ensured that your system is free of malware? Do you
have unnecessary processes and/or programs running continuously? There
are a great many things that can cause a computer to slow down, but the
registry isn't one of them.

I really dont want to
mess around with the Registry.


Good. That's a safe attitude. (Even if it is in direct contradiction
to your stated goal of finding a registry "cleaner.")


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A far safer and probably much more effective way to
restore your PC's speed to normal is to run msconfig.exe
and untick every program that you do not recognise. If
you untick one too many then you can easily restore the
tick mark after the next boot.

Chances are that your machine is infested with adware
and spyware. If so then you might find that programs that
you unticked will re-establish themselves. Use a spyware
killer such as AdAware.
 
stuserver said:
Hey ppl does any one know of a good Registry Cleaner? My cpu is
running slow that usual, did a bit of research, and found out that
wrong entries in the Registry will slow down my comp. Any
suggestions? I really dont want to mess around with the Registry.


Good. Using a registry cleaner *is* "messing around with the Registry," and
you shouldn't do it. The rigistry doesn't need to be cleaned, and it's
highly unlikely that your running slower will be fixed by running a registry
cleaner. The risk of a registry cleaner hurting you (deleting an entry you
need) isn't necessarily enormous, but it's much greater than any potential
benefit it may have.
 
I don't know what you mean by "good" but I use EasyCleaner from
http://www.toniarts.com It hasn't caused any problems in several
years of use.

However, extra entries in your registry will not slow your computer
down. The registry is just a big dictionary. So look elsewhere for
slowness. Ad-Aware and SpyBot Search&Destroy will help alot.
 
you shouldn't just run the regcleaner.

Regsupreme does give you the optiion to make a backup.
The Pro version also has a program uninstaller.

You should also be running diskclean (standard installed with windows)
Try cleaning out the prefetch.
Clean out the IE caches
download and install "Hitman Pro" it runs several spyware removers

Run a scandisk, and then do a defrag.

all this should be run regulary to keep the system working tip top
 
I am sorry if my NOOBINESS has caused you a big headache.
I have done everything to try to boost my pc performace. It is such a shame
that my pc will not load fast because of some unknown reason. I have done
everything ppl have told me. Run a defrag, check the disk for errors, check
for viruses, check for spyware, remove all the unused programs, remove all
but the recent restore point, ect. ect. ect.......
I think that wrong entries in the Registry can be a cause for slow computer
start up. I am not stating that. (I ran a reg scanner and found all these
wrong entries.) If the wrong entry is placed on the Registry, will the
program look for the right one? While taking system resources to do so?
Think about that. I know what the Registry is, what the effects it can cause
on an Operating System, and that you should never mess with it. I was just
asking for a program to remove those 'Wrong' entries in the Registry. (It is
not my fault that ppl have not taken the time to really put attention to the
Registry and found out what can be done for it.)
 
Thanks for the lesson about the Registry, but I found a program that found a
lot of wrong entries, deleted them, and nothing wrong happened to the system.
It is running 'normal' but still slow to load. I have run the msconfig.exe
and stripped down to the basic program start up, and STILL the comp slows at
startup. Some days the comp will load fast, others it will take a min or two
for it to come up. I had recommedatios for placing more memory on the pc,
(which I will take as a last resort,)

Correct me IF I am wrong, can shared DLL's slow system performance too?
What do you know about 'Prefetching'?
 
stuserver said:
Thanks for the lesson about the Registry, but I found a program that found
a
lot of wrong entries, deleted them, and nothing wrong happened to the
system.
It is running 'normal' but still slow to load. I have run the
msconfig.exe
and stripped down to the basic program start up, and STILL the comp slows
at
startup. Some days the comp will load fast, others it will take a min or
two
for it to come up. I had recommedatios for placing more memory on the pc,
(which I will take as a last resort,)

Correct me IF I am wrong, can shared DLL's slow system performance too?
What do you know about 'Prefetching'?
I don't know if this was fixed with XP or not... when the computer is
booting it looks for a DNS/IP address. If it can't find any it keeps
searching for a long time. The fix was to add an IP address in your Network
and also to the subnet mask.

You get there by highlighting TCP/IP in the Network configuration then
clicking Properties. Obtain an IP address automatically is usually checked.
You can assign numbers by clicking the option just below that. There are a
few various ones that have no bearing on any real circumstance other than
taking 45 seconds to a minute off your boot time. Try using these:
192.168.1.1 for IP Address and for subnet mask use 255.255.255.0
If that doesn't help go back and change it back to the previous settings to
Obtain an IP address automatically.
 
stuserver said:
Hey ppl does any one know of a good Registry Cleaner? My cpu is running slow
that usual, did a bit of research, and found out that wrong entries in the
Registry will slow down my comp. Any suggestions? I really dont want to
mess around with the Registry.

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

Best to avoid registry cleaners - no real benefit from them. The
slowdown is more than likely caused by something other than entries in
the registry.
 
Prefetching is windows way of starting programs more quickly.
It needss to be cleaned out occasionally.

go to 'start' then 'run' type in prefetch.

A folder will open, you can delete all of them.

How much RAM do you have.

Personally I think 512 is an absolute minimum, and any PC I build gets
1Gb. After all RAM is really cheap now.


Have a look at what runs when you start the PC up.

Try a scandisk and defrag.

Also you make sure you have all the latest patches and updates from
microsoft.

Check that you have the latest BIOS and drivers installed
 
Yes, I do, but not a free one. At this point, you seem to be
going on a "feeling" that cleaning your registry might fix
problems, and it might, but then again it might not.
Norton SystemWorks (not free) seems to be excellent one, I've
used it since their early days, and it has never let me or anyone
I know, down. It's also a recoverable change, in case some thing
screwed up; you can undo the "fixes", though I've never used it.
But, until you've exhausted the myriad other possibilities,
mainly startup programs, the registry shouldn't be taking center
stage.

HTH,

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Jeez, that's ignorant, Bruce. "Nothing" is "truly safe" in the
sense you're talking about. I wish you'd figure out the real
world; you've been saying that same boilerplate for years. Even
MS tells you how to rebuild the registry to straighten it out.

Pop
 
About time some hard data showed up:

A "... min or two for it to come up..." is not too slow for XP.
If you aren't getting any boot time error messages and
everything's working fine you're trying to pass a point of
diminishing returns. It's normal and there's not much you can do
to get noticeably faster performance on boot up.

Pop


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Oh well, what else can I say??? After I ran all of those nice tips you all
gave me, the system will boot up, and be running in less than a min, min and
a half. And I am satisfied with that.
 
stuserver said:
Hey ppl does any one know of a good Registry Cleaner?

Yes, but it is no longer available to download and I only use it because
I know what I'm doing.
My cpu is running slow
that usual, did a bit of research, and found out that wrong entries in the
Registry will slow down my comp.

Says who?
Any suggestions?

Yes. Don't believe everything you hear or read. Invalid registry entries
are ignored by the OS. Exceptions are very rare.
I really dont want to
mess around with the Registry.

Then don't.

If you have some specific problems with your system then post details
about them and someone will help you.

Steve N.
 
Steve N. said:
If you have some specific problems with your system then post details
about them and someone will help you.

Steve N.

Well, my problem was that the start up applications were conflicting with
each other, thus enlongating the system start up process. I dont know what
fixed it, but I did deleted the wrong entries, striped the system down to the
most critical items, and now it is working fine. Altough, I am not satisfied
because I had to do so on a new computer, which I think should be able to
handle more than 30 startup up items. (Those 30 items where already
installed in my PC, you know bundled software. I have a good processor and
RAM, but still, they were conflicting with each other.) Now I am down to 7
essential items. I can strip it donw more, but I think I might live with
that.
 
The safest way to "clean" your registry is to do a clean install of OS
and all applications including all updates. Perhaps this is how you
should spend your Easter this year!

I have yet to come across a silver bullet that can speed up slow
machines!

hth
 

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