Do SD/MMC memory slots need driver updates to read SDHC memory cards?

K

ken

I have just purchased a Canon digitalcamera. I have an 8GB HP SD High
Capacity memory card that I have used but with some problems. Like the
32MB card that came with the camera, the 8 GB memory card is formatted
in RAW.

When I remove the 8 GB SDHC card from the camera and put it into my 3
year old laptop, the card is recognized in but not any files on the
disk. In Explorer there is a Removable SD/MMC drive assignment, but
when I click on the drive, I receive a message that the drive is not
accessible and that the network resource type is not correct. When I
check Properties, it shows 0 bytes!! Yet, when I put the card in a USB
receiver and look at it in Explorer, then the card is recognized as 8 GB
and the picture files are shown, as well as the appropriate
directories..! I am trying to figure if it is an issue with the
operating system, the SD HC memory card, or the computer SD/MMC slot.

Does anyone have any info?

Thanks
Ken K
 
R

Rod Speed

ken said:
I have just purchased a Canon digitalcamera. I have an 8GB HP SD High
Capacity memory card that I have used but with some problems. Like
the 32MB card that came with the camera, the 8 GB memory card is
formatted in RAW.

When I remove the 8 GB SDHC card from the camera and put it into my 3
year old laptop, the card is recognized in but not any files on the
disk. In Explorer there is a Removable SD/MMC drive assignment, but
when I click on the drive, I receive a message that the drive is not
accessible and that the network resource type is not correct. When I
check Properties, it shows 0 bytes!! Yet, when I put the card in a
USB receiver and look at it in Explorer, then the card is recognized
as 8 GB and the picture files are shown, as well as the appropriate
directories..! I am trying to figure if it is an issue with the
operating system, the SD HC memory card, or the computer SD/MMC slot.

Does anyone have any info?

Thats a very common result when the laptop card reader
cant handle cards bigger than it was designed to handle.
 
K

ken

Rod said:
Thats a very common result when the laptop card reader
cant handle cards bigger than it was designed to handle.
Hmmmm.... So how does one determine how large a card an internal card
reader can read?
 
G

Grant

What's RAW? SDHC is FAT32.
Hmmmm.... So how does one determine how large a card an internal card
reader can read?

SD/MMC is not the same as SDHC, though an SDHC enabled device can work
with SD/MMC, see your camera manual.

Grant.
 
K

ken

Grant said:
What's RAW? SDHC is FAT32.

SD/MMC is not the same as SDHC, though an SDHC enabled device can work
with SD/MMC, see your camera manual.

Grant.
RAW, as I understand it, is the format for camera images (raw image
data). The SD/MMC designation is the designation of the SD/MMC socket
and it is how the socket/"drive" shows up in Explorer.

So how does SDHC differ from SD? If there is a difference, then perhaps
I can solve this by just purchasing an SD memory card of the same size,
which would be fine with me.

The Canon manual says I can use SD, SDHC cards, and MMC cards so that
would imply that the problem is either in the limitations, if any, of my
SD/MMC socket or in the OS. Does anyone know if there are new drivers
needed to read/recognize an SDHC card in Windows XP?

Here is what the manual says about memory:


Thanks
Ken K
 
E

Eric Gisin

ken said:
RAW, as I understand it, is the format for camera images (raw image
data). The SD/MMC designation is the designation of the SD/MMC socket
and it is how the socket/"drive" shows up in Explorer.
The RAW designation in disk manager and error messages means the boot sector is not FAT or NTFS.
(corrupt data from card reader)
 
K

kenk

Eric said:
The RAW designation in disk manager and error messages means the boot
sector is not FAT or NTFS.
(corrupt data from card reader)
OK, then, so is there any way I can format the card so that it will be
read? The camera does a "low level format" on the card, which then,
when placed in a USB holder, is read as RAW format 7.6GB (and the files
can be accessed), but when placed in the SD/MMC slot, reads "0 bytes".
As noted above, a 32MB SD card is read properly and Explorer shows the
proper file folders.

So, is what is being said that I can only use a 2GB SD card if I want it
to be read in the SD/MMC slot of my laptop?
 
K

kenk

Rod said:
The only real way is to try them and see.
OK. I was able to contact the retailer who sold me the laptop, who
contacted the manufacturer, who said that the SD/MMC socket only handles
SD memory cards, which is what was mentioned by Ian D, so I will order a
2GB card.

Many thanks to all who participated.

Ken K
 
I

iws

| Rod Speed wrote:
| > ken wrote:
| >> Rod Speed wrote:
| >>> ken wrote:
| >>>> I have just purchased a Canon digitalcamera. I have an 8GB HP SD
| >>>> High Capacity memory card that I have used but with some problems.
Like the 32MB card that came with the camera, the
| >>>> 8 GB memory card
| >>>> is formatted in RAW.
| >>>>
| >>>> When I remove the 8 GB SDHC card from the camera and put it into my
| >>>> 3 year old laptop, the card is recognized in but not any files on
| >>>> the disk. In Explorer there is a Removable SD/MMC drive
| >>>> assignment, but when I click on the drive, I receive a message that
| >>>> the drive is not accessible and that the network resource type is
| >>>> not correct. When I check Properties, it shows 0 bytes!! Yet,
| >>>> when I put the card in a USB receiver and look at it in Explorer,
| >>>> then the card is recognized as 8 GB and the picture files are
| >>>> shown, as well as the appropriate directories..! I am trying to
| >>>> figure if it is an issue with the operating system, the SD HC
| >>>> memory card, or the computer SD/MMC slot. Does anyone have any info?
| >>> Thats a very common result when the laptop card reader
| >>> cant handle cards bigger than it was designed to handle.
| >>>
| >>>
| >> Hmmmm.... So how does one determine how large a card an internal card
reader can read?
| >
| > The only real way is to try them and see.
| >
| >
| OK. I was able to contact the retailer who sold me the laptop, who
| contacted the manufacturer, who said that the SD/MMC socket only handles
| SD memory cards, which is what was mentioned by Ian D, so I will order a
| 2GB card.
|
| Many thanks to all who participated.
|
| Ken K

Check with your laptop manufacturer on a possible update for your card
reader that will let your laptop accept SDHC cards. I had that problem with
my laptop purchased in 2007 but was able to update it.
 
I

iws

|
| | > Grant wrote:
| >>
| >>> Rod Speed wrote:
| >>>> ken wrote:
| >>>>> I have just purchased a Canon digitalcamera. I have an 8GB HP SD
High
| >>>>> Capacity memory card that I have used but with some problems. Like
| >>>>> the 32MB card that came with the camera, the 8 GB memory card is
| >>>>> formatted in RAW.
| >>
| >> What's RAW? SDHC is FAT32.
| >>>>> When I remove the 8 GB SDHC card from the camera and put it into my
3
| >>>>> year old laptop, the card is recognized in but not any files on the
| >>>>> disk. In Explorer there is a Removable SD/MMC drive assignment, but
| >>>>> when I click on the drive, I receive a message that the drive is not
| >>>>> accessible and that the network resource type is not correct. When
I
| >>>>> check Properties, it shows 0 bytes!! Yet, when I put the card in a
| >>>>> USB receiver and look at it in Explorer, then the card is recognized
| >>>>> as 8 GB and the picture files are shown, as well as the appropriate
| >>>>> directories..! I am trying to figure if it is an issue with the
| >>>>> operating system, the SD HC memory card, or the computer SD/MMC
slot.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Does anyone have any info?
| >>>> Thats a very common result when the laptop card reader
| >>>> cant handle cards bigger than it was designed to handle.
| >>>>
| >>> Hmmmm.... So how does one determine how large a card an internal card
| >>> reader can read?
| >>
| >> SD/MMC is not the same as SDHC, though an SDHC enabled device can work
| >> with SD/MMC, see your camera manual. Grant.
| > RAW, as I understand it, is the format for camera images (raw image
data).
| > The SD/MMC designation is the designation of the SD/MMC socket and it is
| > how the socket/"drive" shows up in Explorer.
| >
| > So how does SDHC differ from SD? If there is a difference, then perhaps
I
| > can solve this by just purchasing an SD memory card of the same size,
| > which would be fine with me.
| >
| > The Canon manual says I can use SD, SDHC cards, and MMC cards so that
| > would imply that the problem is either in the limitations, if any, of my
| > SD/MMC socket or in the OS. Does anyone know if there are new drivers
| > needed to read/recognize an SDHC card in Windows XP?
| >
| > Here is what the manual says about memory:
| >
| >
| > Thanks
| > Ken K
|
| The maximum memory size for an SD card is 2GB. Anything
| over that requires an SDHC card.

Not quite true. Before the transition to SDHC, some manufacturers sold 4GB
SD cards; I have two of them that I use in my Canon A620.

The cards are externally
| physically identical. SD cards are 16 bit FAT. That's why
| there's a 2GB limit. SDHC cards are FAT32.
|
| Camera RAW has nothing to do with file structure. It's a picture
| file format in which data is transferred directly from the camera's
| image sensor array to the storage card without any internal
| processing. To use the images you need a RAW converter to
| read the particular camera's RAW files.
|
|
 
E

Eric Gisin

kenk said:
OK. I was able to contact the retailer who sold me the laptop, who
contacted the manufacturer, who said that the SD/MMC socket only handles
SD memory cards, which is what was mentioned by Ian D, so I will order a
2GB card.
It it cheaper in the long run to spend $10-20 on an external USB card reader.
 
E

Eric Gisin

iws said:
|
| The maximum memory size for an SD card is 2GB. Anything
| over that requires an SDHC card.

Not quite true. Before the transition to SDHC, some manufacturers sold 4GB
SD cards; I have two of them that I use in my Canon A620.
FAT16 supports 4GB. However, you are talking about hardware limitations.
 
K

ken

Eric said:
It it cheaper in the long run to spend $10-20 on an external USB card
reader.
It works in a cheap-0 $4 USB SD card reader that I purchased from
Meritline. You are correct!
 

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