Disappearing language icon in toolbar

[William B. Lurie]

That's the first symptom but the problem is really deeper
than that. During Start-Up, Symantec's program CCapp does
a zillion things and takes too darn long to finish. Sometimes
it never finishes, and it's a big CPU hog, and the symptom
that it may never finish, is that the 'EN' in my
toolbar, signifying ENglish keyboard, just doesn't appear.
I know then that I have to interrupt the power and Start Up
over again, sometimes 2 or 3 times before it finishes normally.
I hate the slow speed of that program, and the fact that it
uses 100% of my CPU (I have 1024MB of RAM) but I'm stuck with
it. I have almost nothing else in the StartUp list.

Back to the language icon: sometimes the StartUp goes just
right, normal, and Norton Protection Center reports that
everything is normal.......yet the language icon doesn't
appear. BTW, all the defrag and cleanup and chkdsk in the
world don't change this phenomenon. Any clues?

 

[gls858]

That's the first symptom but the problem is really deeper
than that. During Start-Up, Symantec's program CCapp does
a zillion things and takes too darn long to finish. Sometimes
it never finishes, and it's a big CPU hog, and the symptom
that it may never finish, is that the 'EN' in my
toolbar, signifying ENglish keyboard, just doesn't appear.
I know then that I have to interrupt the power and Start Up
over again, sometimes 2 or 3 times before it finishes normally.
I hate the slow speed of that program, and the fact that it
uses 100% of my CPU (I have 1024MB of RAM) but I'm stuck with
it. I have almost nothing else in the StartUp list.

Back to the language icon: sometimes the StartUp goes just
right, normal, and Norton Protection Center reports that
everything is normal.......yet the language icon doesn't
appear. BTW, all the defrag and cleanup and chkdsk in the
world don't change this phenomenon. Any clues?

Just exactly what program are you stuck with...Symantec's?
The obvious thing to do would be to remove it. You've been around
these groups long enought to see the problems it creates. I would
be curious to know why you feel your "stuck" with it.

gls858

 

[William B. Lurie]

Just exactly what program are you stuck with...Symantec's?
The obvious thing to do would be to remove it. You've been around
these groups long enought to see the problems it creates. I would be
curious to know why you feel your "stuck" with it.

gls858

Inertia......and habit. Nortons have kept me fee of viruses and
other annoyances so well, for so long, that I shudder at the
thought of replacing them with something different. At least it's
"the devil I know" as compared with something else. And their service
has improved a lot over the years.

 

[gls858]

Inertia......and habit. Nortons have kept me fee of viruses and
other annoyances so well, for so long, that I shudder at the
thought of replacing them with something different. At least it's
"the devil I know" as compared with something else. And their service
has improved a lot over the years.

Well... to each their own I'm not familiar with Symantec's
product but the one time I had to deal with it it did a full scan
at each start up. Once I turned that off the machine booted just
fine. Maybe some others will have better advice.

In my case I've used Trend Micro's Corporate Version here at work
and the Internet Suite Version at home for almost 10 years.
Never had a virus at either place. It doesn't seem to hog
resources either. The only problem I've ever has was downloading
an update and I emailed Trend Micro and had a solution in a
couple of hours. The last update allowed you to load the program
on 3 machines for $49.95.

gls858

 

[Maincat]

Well... to each their own I'm not familiar with Symantec's product but
the one time I had to deal with it it did a full scan at each start up.
Once I turned that off the machine booted just fine. Maybe some others
will have better advice.

In my case I've used Trend Micro's Corporate Version here at work and the
Internet Suite Version at home for almost 10 years.
Never had a virus at either place. It doesn't seem to hog resources
either. The only problem I've ever has was downloading an update and I
emailed Trend Micro and had a solution in a couple of hours. The last
update allowed you to load the program
on 3 machines for $49.95.

gls858

Norton Internet Security 2007 is a terrible piece of comsumer software. It
stuffed up my System Restore and Security Centre. It is s-l-o-w. It is
bad - get it off your system and you will see improvements.

I use F-Secure Internet Security - very happy with it. There are so many
alternatives, some free, that are better. Do yourself a favour.

 

[Sharon F]

other annoyances

I'll give you viruses but "other annoyances"? No, you can't have that one.
Norton causes more annoyances than it avoids.

In fairness: I used their products for many, many years. I stuck with them
much for the reasons you cite including "the devil I know" but really had
no serious problems with their applications.

I stopped using them when a particular version had a program error crop up
that would crash explorer. It was a repeatable error and documented by
Symantec. After waiting a year and no resolution in sight, I finally cashed
in my Symantec chips and never looked back.

Currently using aVast (free version).

 

[William B. Lurie]

Norton Internet Security 2007 is a terrible piece of comsumer software. It
stuffed up my System Restore and Security Centre. It is s-l-o-w. It is
bad - get it off your system and you will see improvements.

I use F-Secure Internet Security - very happy with it. There are so many
alternatives, some free, that are better. Do yourself a favour.

Thanks, Cat......My machine came with Norton A-V 2007 and
I deep-sixed it immediately in favor of Norton System Works
which I've used for years. But it still does too damn
many things on startup.

 

[William B. Lurie]

I'll give you viruses but "other annoyances"? No, you can't have that one.
Norton causes more annoyances than it avoids.

In fairness: I used their products for many, many years. I stuck with them
much for the reasons you cite including "the devil I know" but really had
no serious problems with their applications.

I stopped using them when a particular version had a program error crop up
that would crash explorer. It was a repeatable error and documented by
Symantec. After waiting a year and no resolution in sight, I finally cashed
in my Symantec chips and never looked back.

Currently using aVast (free version).

Thanks, Sharon....and hello again. Symantec has been
improving in recent years with respect to fixing their boo-boos,
but they are still too controlling.