DHCP problem on workgroup

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I'm having problems with a laptop that I'm trying to add to an existing
workgroup based wireless network. I cannot get the laptop to see the other
machines on the workgroup, or the internet. Other machines on the network
cannot see the laptop and I cannot ping it.
4 machines are visible to each other on the network and have a similar IP
range and the same subnet mask (255.255.255.0), but the laptop has a very
different IP address and the subnet mask is 255.255.0.0).
I assume the DHCP server is the Wireless Gateway (Zoom IG-4165).
I have tried to manually assign the IP address when joining the wireless
network to force the change of IP address lease, and then revert to DHCP, but
when I rejoin the wirless network profile it just reverts to the old IP
address.
I have tried ipconfig /renew and this doesn't work either - any thoughts?
 
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Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]

My quick guess is that your system is unable to access the DHCP Server.

briandco said:
I'm having problems with a laptop that I'm trying to add to an existing
workgroup based wireless network. I cannot get the laptop to see the other
machines on the workgroup, or the internet. Other machines on the network
cannot see the laptop and I cannot ping it.
4 machines are visible to each other on the network and have a similar IP
range and the same subnet mask (255.255.255.0), but the laptop has a very
different IP address and the subnet mask is 255.255.0.0).

What's the IP address that you get? Is this something like 169.x.x.x?
I assume the DHCP server is the Wireless Gateway (Zoom IG-4165).
I have tried to manually assign the IP address when joining the wireless
network
Not sure if I understood this correctly. What address did you assign
manually? Did that work, I mean in static mode were you able to ping other
systems?
to force the change of IP address lease, and then revert to DHCP,
but when I rejoin the wirless network profile it just reverts to the old
IP
address.
I have tried ipconfig /renew and this doesn't work either - any thoughts?

Would you please provide some more information about your network
configuration?

-Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]
 
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Guest

Tanu Mutreja said:
My quick guess is that your system is unable to access the DHCP Server. That seems right



What's the IP address that you get? Is this something like 169.x.x.x?
yes - its 169.254.x.xx
subnet mask is 255.255.0.0
default gateway shows as 0.0.0.0 (other machines all show the IP address of
the wireless gateway as the default gateway)
Not sure if I understood this correctly. What address did you assign
manually? Did that work, I mean in static mode were you able to ping other
systems?
I used the zoom connection manager to set the IP etc manually; this appeared
to force a different IP address and subnet mask and default gateway on to the
problem laptop but still didn't allow me to connect to the workgroup; I then
reverted to DHCP hoping that would force a new DHCP lease but it just reverts
to 169.254.x.xx
Would you please provide some more information about your network
configuration?
All machines are Win2K; I'm using a Zoom Wireless Gateway, with 2 PCs on
Zoom NICs, 1 on a Belkin NIC, 1 connected by ethernet cable to the gateway
and the problem laptop using a Zoom PCMCIA NIC; the laptop can see the
gateway (ie there is a good signal and its passing WEP security etc) but
can't see the workgroup or connect to the internet. If I browse with My
Network Places it sees the Workgroup name but only the laptop itself on the
list of PCs
-Tanu Mutreja [MSFT] thanks
bc
 
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Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]

Inline...

briandco said:
yes - its 169.254.x.xx
It's AutoNet IP Address, which gets assigned to a network card if the card
to configured to get dynamic IP address and DHCP Server is not accessible
for some reason.

subnet mask is 255.255.0.0
default gateway shows as 0.0.0.0 (other machines all show the IP address
of
the wireless gateway as the default gateway)
I used the zoom connection manager to set the IP etc manually; this
appeared
to force a different IP address and subnet mask and default gateway on to
the
problem laptop but still didn't allow me to connect to the workgroup; I
then
reverted to DHCP hoping that would force a new DHCP lease but it just
reverts
to 169.254.x.xx
So, you can simply ignore 169.x.x.x address while trying to resolve this
problem. This address won't help.
Can you try to set static IP address for this Network Connection? Use a
static IP in the same range as other systems(having no issues with network
connectivity) in your network are having. Use the same subnet mask and same
default gateway as well. Then see if you get proper network connectivity. If
not then it's a different network issue than DHCP.

Would you please provide some more information about your network
configuration?
All machines are Win2K; I'm using a Zoom Wireless Gateway, with 2 PCs on
Zoom NICs, 1 on a Belkin NIC, 1 connected by ethernet cable to the gateway
and the problem laptop using a Zoom PCMCIA NIC; the laptop can see the
gateway (ie there is a good signal and its passing WEP security etc) but
can't see the workgroup or connect to the internet. If I browse with My
Network Places it sees the Workgroup name but only the laptop itself on
the
list of PCs
-Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]
thanks
bc
 
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Guest

Tanu Mutreja said:
Inline...


It's AutoNet IP Address, which gets assigned to a network card if the card
to configured to get dynamic IP address and DHCP Server is not accessible
for some reason.


So, you can simply ignore 169.x.x.x address while trying to resolve this
problem. This address won't help.
Can you try to set static IP address for this Network Connection? Use a
static IP in the same range as other systems(having no issues with network
connectivity) in your network are having. Use the same subnet mask and same
default gateway as well. Then see if you get proper network connectivity. If
not then it's a different network issue than DHCP.
I did try using IP address etc that is consistent with the rest of the
network but it didn't help; the main thing that is odd is why it won't pick
up the correct Ip etc from the Gateway DHCP server
to force the change of IP address lease, and then revert to DHCP,
but when I rejoin the wirless network profile it just reverts to the
old
IP
address.
I have tried ipconfig /renew and this doesn't work either - any
thoughts?

Would you please provide some more information about your network
configuration?
All machines are Win2K; I'm using a Zoom Wireless Gateway, with 2 PCs on
Zoom NICs, 1 on a Belkin NIC, 1 connected by ethernet cable to the gateway
and the problem laptop using a Zoom PCMCIA NIC; the laptop can see the
gateway (ie there is a good signal and its passing WEP security etc) but
can't see the workgroup or connect to the internet. If I browse with My
Network Places it sees the Workgroup name but only the laptop itself on
the
list of PCs
-Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]
thanks
bc
 
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Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]

I don't think it's DHCP problem since setting static IP address also didn't
help you getting connected to your network. You are not getting dynamic IP
address because the basic networking seems to be broken in your case. You
can just try restarting DHCP Client service ("net stop dhcp" & "net start
dhcp") but that won't help I guess.

-Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]

briandco said:
Tanu Mutreja said:
Inline...


It's AutoNet IP Address, which gets assigned to a network card if the
card
to configured to get dynamic IP address and DHCP Server is not accessible
for some reason.


So, you can simply ignore 169.x.x.x address while trying to resolve this
problem. This address won't help.
Can you try to set static IP address for this Network Connection? Use a
static IP in the same range as other systems(having no issues with
network
connectivity) in your network are having. Use the same subnet mask and
same
default gateway as well. Then see if you get proper network connectivity.
If
not then it's a different network issue than DHCP.
I did try using IP address etc that is consistent with the rest of the
network but it didn't help; the main thing that is odd is why it won't
pick
up the correct Ip etc from the Gateway DHCP server
to force the change of IP address lease, and then revert to DHCP,
but when I rejoin the wirless network profile it just reverts to the
old
IP
address.
I have tried ipconfig /renew and this doesn't work either - any
thoughts?

Would you please provide some more information about your network
configuration?
All machines are Win2K; I'm using a Zoom Wireless Gateway, with 2 PCs
on
Zoom NICs, 1 on a Belkin NIC, 1 connected by ethernet cable to the
gateway
and the problem laptop using a Zoom PCMCIA NIC; the laptop can see the
gateway (ie there is a good signal and its passing WEP security etc)
but
can't see the workgroup or connect to the internet. If I browse with My
Network Places it sees the Workgroup name but only the laptop itself on
the
list of PCs

-Tanu Mutreja [MSFT]
thanks
bc
 

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