DEP is driving me nuts; please help!

[Flyerfan27]

Hello,

I hope someone can help me. I have a Gateway MX8734 Notebook computer. It
has Vista Home Premium Sp1 and I keep it fully updated to the best of my
knowledge. I have 83 GB of free hard drive space and 2 GB of RAM. Most of the
time my Notebook uses around 39% to 46% of the RAM.

I came to this group to find away to disable the Data Execution Protection,
which I did thanks to Joe Duffy. After reading everyone's responses to Joe's
message I see DEP has another use other then driving me nuts. So I would
rather see if someone can help me fix the problem instead of disabling DEP. I
must add I saw where someone wrote;

"The only time DEP will come into play is if you visit a bad website or try
to run programs that shouldn't be run".

That statement is not true on my Notebook. I have the most problems with
DEP running 2 Microsoft programs: Microsoft Works Calendar & Windows Mail.
When I try to update an appointment in my Works Calendar, DEP will cause the
program to close and I lose my changes. DEP also causes Windows Mail to close
when I run Spell Checker when writing emails. Of course when this happens I
lose the email I was writing. I try to remember to save my emails before
running Spell checker. Of course it took a while to remember so I have lost
quite a few emails, some long ones, before I started remembering.

I still forget to save my email from time to time and I am real tired of
the problems DEP is causing me. It has become such a problem that I want to
disable DEP if I can't get it working properly. Since I don't want to leave
my Notebook open for attacks I am hoping someone here can help me. Thank you!

Happy New Year,
James

 

[Tyro]

DEP has nothing to do with whatever problem you are having. DEP prevents
code from executing within a section of the computer's memory designated as
data, not executable code. DEP protects you. To disable that is foolish.

Tyro

 

[Bender]

The programs that are giving you problems are either infected with a virus
or are defective and should be replaced or have a service pack for them
installed.

 

[James]

Tyro,

Thanks for replying to my question and for your help. I believe the problem
I am having with the 2 programs is being caused by the DEP. Everytime one of
the 2 programs shut down I get an icon in the task bar. When I click on the
icon a help window pops up telling me about DEP and how to set it up to
ignore different programs. If the problem is not caused by the DEP why would
I keep getting this help window?

Would it hurt anything to disable the DEP just long enough to see if I can
run the 2 programs without having any problems? I would just try this on my
own, but Joe's instructions only tells you how to disable the DEP. I would
not know how to re-enable it when I was done.

Thanks again,
James

 

[Vee Dell]

DEP is driving me nuts too! It only affects Internet Explorer 8 on my
system and shuts down the programme no matter
which website I visit. Even shut down on the Microsoft website today. If I
restart IE and go back onto the website,
5 times out of ten, it will not shut me down.
I went into the settings and selected to Turn on DEP for all programs and
services except Internet Explorer,
but it made no difference. I do not ever visit suspect websites and have
anti virus, anti spyware and firewell all in place,
so I would like the option of turning DEP off permanently.
Would appreciate any help doing this.
Thanks
Vee

 

[James]

Hello Vee,

Sorry I took so long to write a reply. It has been really crazy for me
here. I wanted to let you know that disabling DEP only helped a little bit.
I still have a problem with the programs I mentioned still closing on me;
just not as often. I really do not believe DEP is the problem, but I am
leaving you with the instructions you asked for. Please before you do this
remember one thing; I do not know how to enable it again. Mine is still off.
I never got an answer on how to enable it again. I am not too concerned
though because my Notebook is under warrantee and needs some work done to
it. When I get the time to get it done I am going to do a formatted
re-install so my problem will get fixed. If you have any questions please
ask. I will help you all I can, but I am limited myself. I spend more time
on this board then anywhere else always looking to solve a problem.

Anyway here are those instructions (Good Luck):

To avoid the hassles in Vista, just:

I.) disable that horrid User Account Control OFF for crying out loud. Go to
Control Panel and sniff it out under User Accounts.

II.) to get around that Media Center / Media Player crash when you look at
video icons in your library, download the famous CCCP codec package at
http://www.cccp-project.net/download.php?type=cccp

III.) disable that creepy Data Execution Protection crap or "DEP" with this
process...

1. Click Start
2. Click All Programs
3. Click Accessories
4. Right Click on Command Prompt
5. Left click on Run as Administrator
6. Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission
7. Type or copy and paste this into the command prompt window:

bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff


8. Hit enter and you should see the confirmation: Operation Completed
Successfully
9. Reboot and DEP should be off.

 

[zachd [MSFT]]

What "player" crash viewing video thumbnails? What's the fault data?
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket

That's pretty much guaranteed to be some bogus third party codec. Applying
CCCP on top of badness is akin to applying a fresh coat of paint over
termites. Fix the actual problem first.

DEP is your friend, sadly, and is preventing something from using memory
badly. Again: good to fix the source problem rather than pretending it
isn't there.

Given the data so far I'd suspect they have DivX 5.2 installed to the
system, which is probably the most common thumbnail crash/DEP error source I
know of.

 

[Vee Dell]

Hi James

No problem. Thanks for answering. From what you say, I think I will leave
DEP alone for now.
I am going to try uninstalling IE8 and go back to IE7, didn't have this much
trouble with it.
Will keep your instructions though... just in case..

Thanks again.
Vee

 

[James]

Vee,

You are very welcome. I am glad I could help you. I switched to IE 8 too
and would like to go back to IE7. Do you know how? If you do or find out can
you please let me know. I was going to do a fresh re-install, but if you
know how to go back to IE7 I won't have to.

Thanks,
James