Defragmentation message

[Raylen]

I have run Disc Defragmenter regularly without problems. Recently I have
got the following message at the end of the test. "Some files on this
volume could not be defragmented. Please check the defragmentation report
for the list of these files." When I check for the list of these files, no
files are listed.
Two questions -
* How can I find the files that can not be defragmented?
* How can I make sure that ALL files are able to be
defragmented?
Hoping for some advice
Thank you
Raylen

 

[Touch Base]

|I have run Disc Defragmenter regularly without problems. Recently I have
| got the following message at the end of the test. "Some files on this
| volume could not be defragmented. Please check the defragmentation report
| for the list of these files." When I check for the list of these files, no
| files are listed.
| Two questions -
| * How can I find the files that can not be defragmented?
| * How can I make sure that ALL files are able to be
| defragmented?
| Hoping for some advice
| Thank you
| Raylen
|


It maybe beneficial to run a check disk operation (chkdsk). You could have some corrupted files. go to Start, Run and type CHKDSK. Click OK and WinXP equivalent to SCANDISK (found in Win98) will commence in a virtual DOS window. This is a basic check.

Another approach which is more thorough, is to go to Start, My Computer, and right-click Local Disk C. Click Properties, Tools, Error Checking, and you'll find buttons for Check Now, tick both boxes. Having done this, you may be told that this program can't run without rebooting your computer, and asked if you'd like to run them the next time you restart. Restart your computer and chkdsk will do a detailed scan of your files.

 

[Raylen]

Thanks for the information.
Tried both of your suggestions but still getting the same message after
defragging.
Hoping someone might have some more ideas for me to try.

Thanks
Raylen

|I have run Disc Defragmenter regularly without problems. Recently I have
| got the following message at the end of the test. "Some files on this
| volume could not be defragmented. Please check the defragmentation report
| for the list of these files." When I check for the list of these files,
no
| files are listed.
| Two questions -
| * How can I find the files that can not be defragmented?
| * How can I make sure that ALL files are able to be
| defragmented?
| Hoping for some advice
| Thank you
| Raylen
|


It maybe beneficial to run a check disk operation (chkdsk). You could have
some corrupted files. go to Start, Run and type CHKDSK. Click OK and WinXP
equivalent to SCANDISK (found in Win98) will commence in a virtual DOS
window. This is a basic check.

Another approach which is more thorough, is to go to Start, My Computer, and
right-click Local Disk C. Click Properties, Tools, Error Checking, and
you'll find buttons for Check Now, tick both boxes. Having done this, you
may be told that this program can't run without rebooting your computer, and
asked if you'd like to run them the next time you restart. Restart your
computer and chkdsk will do a detailed scan of your files.

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Files Excluded by the Disk Defragmenter Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227350

It means that everything got defragmented than can be defragmented. Don't
worry, be happy.

If you have enough free space, sometimes running defrag a second or third
may get files that were missed on the first or second run.

Except the files listed below and they are not included in the
defragmentation report...

Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
defragment a volume.

* During defragmentation, a new file is created on the volume in disk space
that was previously free space. In this case, if Disk Defragmenter tries to
move a file to that space to defragment the file, the move fails and the
file remains fragmented.

* The file is the master file table (MFT) on an NTFS volume. Because the
first fragment of the MFT cannot be moved, the MFT is typically contained
within two fragments when sufficient space is available on the volume. If
the MFT is contained within three or more fragments, Disk Defragmenter looks
for free space where the MFT might fit. If sufficient free space exists, the
MFT is moved as a whole (minus the first fragment). If space is not
available, the MFT is not defragmented.

* The file is permanently excluded, in which case it might appear in the
defragmentation report as still being fragmented no matter how many times
you defragment the volume. The following files are permanently excluded from
being defragmented.

* Bootsect.dos
* Safeboot.fs
* Safeboot.csv
* Safeboot.rsv
* Hiberfil.sys
* Memory.dmp
* Paging file ]]
from...
Windows XP Resource Kit: Troubleshooting Disks and File Systems
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Raylen]

Thanks for the information. All very confusing to someone who knows only
the basics of my computer.
Could you please answer 2 things for me.
* Why I see no files listed in the report of files not defragmented when it
says there should be.
* When a new file is created during defrag, is that kept on the computer
permanently or is it a temporary file that can be deleted.
I guess my last question is - Is there any need to be concerned that I get
the message about all files not be defragmented?
Thanks for all the help
Raylen

Files Excluded by the Disk Defragmenter Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227350

It means that everything got defragmented than can be defragmented. Don't
worry, be happy.

If you have enough free space, sometimes running defrag a second or third
may get files that were missed on the first or second run.

Except the files listed below and they are not included in the
defragmentation report...

Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report
to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain
fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to
completely
defragment a volume.

* During defragmentation, a new file is created on the volume in disk
space
that was previously free space. In this case, if Disk Defragmenter tries
to
move a file to that space to defragment the file, the move fails and the
file remains fragmented.

* The file is the master file table (MFT) on an NTFS volume. Because the
first fragment of the MFT cannot be moved, the MFT is typically contained
within two fragments when sufficient space is available on the volume. If
the MFT is contained within three or more fragments, Disk Defragmenter
looks
for free space where the MFT might fit. If sufficient free space exists,
the
MFT is moved as a whole (minus the first fragment). If space is not
available, the MFT is not defragmented.

* The file is permanently excluded, in which case it might appear in the
defragmentation report as still being fragmented no matter how many times
you defragment the volume. The following files are permanently excluded
from
being defragmented.

* Bootsect.dos
* Safeboot.fs
* Safeboot.csv
* Safeboot.rsv
* Hiberfil.sys
* Memory.dmp
* Paging file ]]
from...
Windows XP Resource Kit: Troubleshooting Disks and File Systems
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

 

[Touch Base]

"I guess my last question is - Is there any need to be concerned that I get
| the message about all files not be defragmented?"

Wesley did answer your question Raylen.

"It means that everything got defragmented than can be defragmented. Don't
worry, be happy."

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Do you have at least 15% free space?

Disk Defragmenter shows the % Free Space in the upper right hand corner.

You can also right click the drive in My Computer or in windows Explorer,
select Properties and view Used space and Free space on the General tab.

If you have the Status bar enabled, you can see the Disk free space listed.

status bar
[[A line of information related to the current program. The status bar is
usually located at the bottom of a window. Not all windows have a status
bar.]]

To turn on the status bar, on the View menu, click Status Bar.

* Why I see no files listed in the report of files not defragmented when
it says there should be.

I don't know. Run defrag again.

* When a new file is created during defrag, is that kept on the computer
permanently or is it a temporary file that can be deleted.

I don't know. It depends IF there even was a new file created during
defrag. That was one example of why files cannot be defragged. Any
temporary files can be deleted.

I guess my last question is - Is there any need to be concerned that I get
the message about all files not be defragmented?

I don't know. Run defrag again.

That's three things. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thanks for the information. All very confusing to someone who knows only
the basics of my computer.
Could you please answer 2 things for me.
* Why I see no files listed in the report of files not defragmented when
it says there should be.
* When a new file is created during defrag, is that kept on the computer
permanently or is it a temporary file that can be deleted.
I guess my last question is - Is there any need to be concerned that I get
the message about all files not be defragmented?
Thanks for all the help
Raylen

Files Excluded by the Disk Defragmenter Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227350

It means that everything got defragmented than can be defragmented.
Don't worry, be happy.

If you have enough free space, sometimes running defrag a second or third
may get files that were missed on the first or second run.

Except the files listed below and they are not included in the
defragmentation report...

Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report
to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain
fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

* The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all
files. Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to
completely
defragment a volume.

* During defragmentation, a new file is created on the volume in disk
space
that was previously free space. In this case, if Disk Defragmenter tries
to
move a file to that space to defragment the file, the move fails and the
file remains fragmented.

* The file is the master file table (MFT) on an NTFS volume. Because the
first fragment of the MFT cannot be moved, the MFT is typically contained
within two fragments when sufficient space is available on the volume. If
the MFT is contained within three or more fragments, Disk Defragmenter
looks
for free space where the MFT might fit. If sufficient free space exists,
the
MFT is moved as a whole (minus the first fragment). If space is not
available, the MFT is not defragmented.

* The file is permanently excluded, in which case it might appear in the
defragmentation report as still being fragmented no matter how many times
you defragment the volume. The following files are permanently excluded
from
being defragmented.

* Bootsect.dos
* Safeboot.fs
* Safeboot.csv
* Safeboot.rsv
* Hiberfil.sys
* Memory.dmp
* Paging file ]]
from...
Windows XP Resource Kit: Troubleshooting Disks and File Systems
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thanks for the information.
Tried both of your suggestions but still getting the same message after
defragging.
Hoping someone might have some more ideas for me to try.

Thanks
Raylen

I have run Disc Defragmenter regularly without problems. Recently I
have
got the following message at the end of the test. "Some files on this
volume could not be defragmented. Please check the defragmentation
report for the list of these files." When I check for the list of
these files, no files are listed.
Two questions -
* How can I find the files that can not be defragmented?
* How can I make sure that ALL files are able to be
defragmented?
Hoping for some advice
Thank you
Raylen



It maybe beneficial to run a check disk operation (chkdsk). You could
have
some corrupted files. go to Start, Run and type CHKDSK. Click OK and
WinXP
equivalent to SCANDISK (found in Win98) will commence in a virtual DOS
window. This is a basic check.

Another approach which is more thorough, is to go to Start, My Computer,
and right-click Local Disk C. Click Properties, Tools, Error Checking,
and
you'll find buttons for Check Now, tick both boxes. Having done this,
you may be told that this program can't run without rebooting your
computer, and asked if you'd like to run them the next time you
restart. Restart your computer and chkdsk will do a detailed scan of
your files.