defraging

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

I see you sheepishly injected a web site link whose information has
proven to be 100% bogus/inaccurate. Next time, don't offer off-topic,
irrelevent, inaccurate, spew to a serious discussion thread.

See the following "Real World" rebuttals:

Busting the FUD about Vista's DRM
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

Claim that Vista DRM causes full CPU load and global warming debunked!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=673

Bott and Ou call out Gutmann's Vista FUD
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technol.../bott_and_ou_call_out_gutmanns_vista_fud.html

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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This group is for Vista users and not Vista bashers.

It's Vista that provides virtually unlimited ammo, and just begs to have
the trigger pulled.

Just so you know, I dual boot both Vista64 and XP and plan to
keep it that way. Vista has a lot of benefits over XP so your
comments are unwanted and misguided.

Give me a break. Vista is a mess. To many, what vista repreents is
"unwanted" and those who push it are "misguided" as what Vista really
is:

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

 

[Paul Smith]

Vista even though released is BETA Quality.

Well I'm not having any problems. May be its your hardware.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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[Rich.]

I use O&O Defrag. It's fully compatible with Vista and it's a "set it and
forget it" type of program.
http://www.oo-software.com/home/en/products/oodefrag/

 

[Spirit]

Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools -
Defrag uncheck Schedule and it will not run unless
you set for manual.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Very funny. You are not having any problems with Vista so the thousands of
posts here are just imaginary? Maybe when you power up your PC, you just
stare at the screen and don't do anything. Therefore you are not having
problems. Maybe you just read and write e-mail.


Thanks for the laugh. Now look at the almost 50,000 posts in this forum and
tell me people are not having problems? Every problem is a user problem and
has nothing to do with Vista?


Yea, right !

 

[Richard Urban]

All these problems??

Coming from what - 40 million copies of Vista distributed (note I didn't say
sold).

I think the number of posts seen here is surprisingly low - considering!

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Richard Urban]

Lets see!

50,000 posts divided by 40 million copies of Vista distributed. Gee! That's
..125% of the user base having any issues.

Also, of the 50,000 posts, how many people are just asking "how do I do
this"?

How many are asking "where do I get drivers for my 10 years old printer or
scanner"?

You are the one living in a fantasy land.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Bill Yanaire]

All these problems??

Coming from what - 40 million copies of Vista distributed (note I didn't
say sold).

I think the number of posts seen here is surprisingly low - considering!

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Maybe 40 million copies of Vista out there and probably 39.5 million of
those copies are with people who have no clue what
microsoft.public.windows.viata.general is !

 

[Bill Yanaire]

I posted just a minute ago to another post but will respond again to this
one.

Lets see!

50,000 posts divided by 40 million copies of Vista distributed. Gee!
That's .125% of the user base having any issues.

Of those 40 million copies of Vista distributed, how many of those know
about the vista.general group? Maybe less than 1%. So your percentage is
skewed. No one knows exactly the number. We can guess all day till the
cows come home.

Also, of the 50,000 posts, how many people are just asking "how do I do
this"?

Currently there are 50,000 posts. How many posts get dropped from the
server each month? There are probably a few hundred thousand posts not only
here but in the vista.setup and other vista related groups.

How many are asking "where do I get drivers for my 10 years old printer or
scanner"?

You are the one living in a fantasy land.

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You are correct. There are lots of people asking for drivers for old
hardware. There are lots of people with new hardware that have problems.
All I'm saying is that they released Vista with thousands of bugs. No
doubt. Not a fantasy at all. I used to work at Microsoft and know how many
bugs get released in products. Hundreds if not thousands.

Just because you don't have issues, doesn't mean others don't have issues.
They do. There are thousands who don't even know where to turn when they
encounter a problem.

Vista will get better, service packs will be released. Stay tuned.

 

[Richard Urban]

And, because no one knows the exact numbers, who are you to be saying, in so
many words, that Vista is a failure?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Bill Yanaire]

I never said Vista is a failure is any words. Re-read my post. What I said
was that Vista was released as Beta quality, has hundreds if not thousands
of bugs.

Am I surprised that Microsoft did this? No.

They put corporate greed before customer satisfaction. Each and every time.

I have Vista on one box and use it. It is a test box, I still use XP for my
development.

 

[ray]

Yet another "advanced" component in Vista... good GRIEF

Trust me, you'd be far better off with XP. Theres just no point in
getting on on Vista so early... I mean it's still in beta developement
and unless you want to be a beta tester I recommend going back to XP,
2000, or whatever you were using before if it worked well

Another option would be to load a modern operating system which does not
require regular defragmentation.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Another option would be to load a modern operating system which does not
require regular defragmentation.

And what would that be? (Ubuntu by chance?) You going to be the new voice
of Ubuntu here?

 

[Richard Urban]

You mean the O/S where 5 out of 8 major servers were compromised and were
going around attacking other computers?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[ray]

You mean the O/S where 5 out of 8 major servers were compromised and were
going around attacking other computers?

That would be one option. Please note the rest of the article indicated
that the OS on those servers was not kept up to date and that lax system
administration permitted a brute force attack over an extended period of
time.

 

[ray]

And what would that be? (Ubuntu by chance?) You going to be the new voice
of Ubuntu here?

Any Unix or Linux distribution would pretty much fit that definition. This
is the 21st century. Modern filesystems no longer require regular
defragmentation.

 

[Hobo]

Very funny. You are not having any problems with Vista so the thousands of
posts here are just imaginary? Maybe when you power up your PC, you just
stare at the screen and don't do anything. Therefore you are not having
problems. Maybe you just read and write e-mail.


Thanks for the laugh. Now look at the almost 50,000 posts in this forum and
tell me people are not having problems? Every problem is a user problem and
has nothing to do with Vista?

Well, if you care to count them, to this point in time we
have 37 posts related to this one problem inquiry. So, of
those 50,000 posts you are talking about, most of them are
just pissing contests like this one.

 

[gls858]

snip<
Also, of the 50,000 posts, how many people are just asking "how do I do
this"?

snip

And how many were comments on Ubuntu and the multiple posts
following to admonish the Linix troll 10,000??

gls858