defrag

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DCW

Defrag in winxp will no longer work shows it will be just as fragmented
when done as before, and if you go ahead anyway it just starts than
stays on 1%. any help appreciated.
Dell computer has enough harddrive and memory..
 
M

Mac

A good start would be to learn how to communicate with others... compose
actual sentences, understand the importance of spelling, etc.

Don't worry about XP defrag - get a life instead...
 
R

R. McCarty

If the drive is "Heavily" fragmented, Defrag must work to reposition data
to get free space to work with. How long have you allowed Defrag to run
at the 1% value ?
You'd be better served by using Raxco's Perfect Disk 7.0. I would get the
30-Day trial and do both an Offline & Online defrag session. Be prepared
to allow it significant time to run on it's initial pass. (1-Hour+).
However, on
subsequent runs it will finish very quickly. My XP partition will defrag in
under 15 Seconds. The way Perfect Disk works, once defragmented the
drive will not re-fragment as quickly as without Perfect Disk.
Sign up for Trail version found here:
http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/perfectdisk2000_download.cfm
 
G

Gerry Cornell

Before running Disk Defragmenter run Disk CleanUp in each active User
Profile to remove Temporary Internet Files. Then run chkdsk. In Windows
Explorer right click on the drive and select Properties, Tools, Error
Checker. Finally try Disk
Defragmenter again in Safe Mode.

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M

Mac

The OP already said >> Dell computer has enough harddrive and memory..

So no need to defrag...
 
R

R. McCarty

Please don't offer that "PC Urban Legend" about defragmenting. Unless
the laws of physics don't apply on your PC. It exists, it affects
performance.
We've had this discussion many times. You're doing a disservice to users
by implying that defragmentation isn't necessary. More importantly, if you
say "So no need to defrag" - supply details that support your observation.
Another technical Neophyte, who doesn't have a clue.
 
M

Mac

Grr! - get a life, or defrag, the choice is yours. The Urban Myth is that
defrag actually does any good.

No offence, but if the "computer has enough harddrive", then what is the
point of a defrag?
 
R

R. McCarty

I have a life, pretty old one as well. You make a "Global" statement that
has no foundation in fact and reiterate it a 2nd time. If anyone is entitled
to a Grr!, it's me.
Drive platter spin, Heads pivot to Read/Write data. If a file is stored in a
contiguous span of clusters the head pivots 1 time. If the file is
fragmented
in different cluster locations the head must pivot multiple times to read or
write the file. Each access requires an average amount of time measured
in Milliseconds. More fragmentation, more head movements, more time =
Slower PC performance.
 
D

Darrell S

DCW said:
Defrag in winxp will no longer work shows it will be just as
fragmented when done as before, and if you go ahead anyway it just
starts than stays on 1%. any help appreciated.
Dell computer has enough harddrive and memory..

You may have one or more programs operating in the background while defrag
is trying to work. Each time a program writes something to your hard drive
that changes things and defrag has to start again. Try booting into Safe
mode and running defrag that way. That should stop any background program
from running. I even turn off screen saver.
 
G

Guest

I am a firm beleiver that Defrag works. Even if todays Hard drives have
multiple heads, it will cut down on time if related files are in the same
area and the computer doesn't have to spend miliseconds scanning and
searching. Sure a milisecond isn't very long, but have you ever seen how many
files are needed to allow a program to function? now if they are scattered
add a few miliseconds to for each and every file that needs to be found, now
it isn't miliseconds any more. Not counting the lines of machine code within
the files that can also be scattered.
I run diskcleaner, empty all of my cache, run ccleaner and then go to my
browser and empty all of my temp files etc. once done I run defrag at least
three times. I do that bout once every two weeks or so.
For a quick brief what defrag does, imagine a file cabinet, a very LARGE
file cabinet. Now for every program you add a drawer, some programs may
require more than one drawer. Files are in order and everything is great, you
are able to go to the cabinet and grab a file with very simple effort.
Over time, many people have used the cabinet and what happens is if a
program is removed and if the drawer becomes empty, it would be best to have
that empty drawer at the bottom or end of your cabinet. Leaving it, means if
you install another program that takes up a drawer and half, it will filll
that drawer and then go to the next place where there is room and drop more
file folders and then continue on until all of its folders and files are put
somewhere. SCATTERED, when the Hard drive needs to pull files in ORDER, it
may find one here and then there and another several drawers away etc etc.
DEFRAG, rearranges so all related files are together and everyone lives
Happily Ever After... end of story....
 

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