Definitive Test for a Sub-Web

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Bill S.

I'm trying to make some sub-webs and put them under the root Web but have
never tried to do this before.

They are all line up under the root folder and have the golobe icon. I can
click on the root Web and check Publish sub-webs and they all publish
correctly.

However, if I try to open the _vti_pvt folder, which should contain a list
of all sub-webs, it's empty. So I not sure what I they are.

Is there a way to test a globe icon to see if it is, in fact, a sub-web?
Thanks.
 
The blue globe icon is pretty definitive. Also, if you
double-click a subweb folder, it opens in a new window.
If you double-click an ordinary folder, it opens in the
same window.

Physically, a folder is a subweb if it contains a
_vti_pvt\services.cnf file.

The _vti_pvt\services.cnf file, BTW, contains a list of
subwebs. If the one and only line contains \, then the
subweb contains no further subwebs.

I'm surprised the contents of the _vti_pvt folder show up
empty. How are you viewing this?

If you're running a Windows Web server and want further
confirmation, download either of these packages:

ASP Self-Diagnosis Web Page
http://www.interlacken.com/winnt/dnld/pages/SelfDiagAsp.as
px

ASP.NET Self-Diagnosis Web Page
http://www.interlacken.com/winnt/dnld/pages/SelfDiagNet.as
px

Each package contains a Web page that you can add to your
subweb, run, and verify settings. One these setting is
the starting location of the current Web.


Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
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Thanks for your answer but it seems to me whether I open what I know is an
independent Web or what I'm think may be a sub-web they both open the same
way.

First, when I double-click, the globe opens and reveals the contents
(index.htm, the various .htm pages, an image folder etc.), second I can then
double-click on any .htm file in there and that will open up the page for
viewing/editing etc.

All of what I think are sub-webs contain a seperate _vti_cnf, _vti_pvt, and
a private folder. I am wrong in one statement. The _vti_pvt opens eleven
other files when I double-click on it. I have never seen these files before
and I don't know what any of them are. It is the _private folder which is
empty.

I'm not running my own server but am hosted on a Windows 2000 server with
the FP 2002 extensions installed I believe. Now that I corrected my
statement, do you now think I have actual sub-webs, a hodge-podge or is more
clarification necessary first? Whatever I have, thanks for your help.
 
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Thanks for your answer but it seems to me whether I open
what I know is an independent Web or what I'm think may
be a sub-web they both open the same way.
Click to expand...

Yes, exactly. Subwebs inherit nothing from their parent
Web except a path. A subweb is an independent body of
content.

What distinction do you expect between what you call "an
independent Web" and "a sub-web".


If the folder contains a blue circle and double-clicking
it opens a new window, its a subweb.

If the folder doesn't contain a blue circle, and if a +
or - decoration appears to its left, and if double
clicking it expands and contracts the folder listing (and
toggles the decoration between + and -), then its an
ordinary folder.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|/---------------------------------------------------
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By independent Web I just meant an ordinary unattached Web, not connected to
any other Web. By sub-web I would mean one with the same functionality as an
ordinary Web but one that is a part of one or more Webs and somehow related
to the parent Web. Is there a distinction I am missing?
 
A subweb can be published to another domain as a completely independent web.

A subweb can be published as a subweb under a different domain.

A subweb can be published as a subweb of another subweb under a domain.

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Bill S. said:
By independent Web I just meant an ordinary unattached Web, not connected to
any other Web. By sub-web I would mean one with the same functionality as an
ordinary Web but one that is a part of one or more Webs and somehow related
to the parent Web. Is there a distinction I am missing?
Click to expand...

There's no relation between a subweb and its parent Web (except, of
course, for physical path). For example:

o Applying a new Theme to a parent Web has no effect on the subweb.
o Navigation view in a parent Web doesn't include page in the subweb.
o If you tell FrontPage search an entire Web for some string,
FrontPage
won't search files in the subweb.
o If you rename a file in either Web, FrontPage doesn't fix links
in the other.

The two Webs are essentially independent of each other.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Troubleshooting Microsoft FrontPage 2002
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
Jim
Tom
Maybe this is the root of my publishing problem. I don't have that directoriy, and no .cnf files in the web or subweb
Was this somehow deleted when I upgraded from 2002? I did a repair to no avail. Can I do a re-install without losing data? I would consider starting the site from scratch, but there are over 600 pages and various complexities. Maybe create a new web and import all the files from the web? tnx
 
Are you publishing to a host the supports FP subwebs?

If you can double click to open the subweb, then it is working, do not be
concerned about the _vti folders.

How are you creating these subwebs?

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FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
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wes said:
Jim,
Tom,
Maybe this is the root of my publishing problem. I don't have that
Click to expand...
directoriy, and no .cnf files in the web or subweb.
Was this somehow deleted when I upgraded from 2002? I did a repair to no
Click to expand...
avail. Can I do a re-install without losing data? I would consider
starting the site from scratch, but there are over 600 pages and various
complexities. Maybe create a new web and import all the files from the web?
tnx
 
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