Defender Update

[Ron H]

Just checking again for anything new with WU and a Defender Update showed up.

Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (Definition 1.67.379.0)
Download size: 415 KB
Update type: Important
Install this update to revise the definition files used to detect spyware
and other potentially unwanted software. Once you have installed this item,
it cannot be removed.
More information:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/about/overview.mspx

Help and Support:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=52661

 

[Ǝиçεl]

Hi Ron,

FYI

Same Definition 1.67.379.0, but the size is 374 kb over here. ;-)

-=-

 

[Ron H]

Hey Engel, What's up with that ? My post is a copy and paste from WU, so
maybe one of the sizes is a typo. It's been awhile. Ron

 

[Ǝиçεl]

I'm doing OK.

Yeap, is been a while, I hope you and your family are OK.

Take care.
-=-

 

[Tim Clark]

Windows Defender Delta Update: 1.67.379.0 Link

The link is as follows:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._27784f4cbe88261b2110feae6e9fc2a5b375a9c4.exe
Size is only 375kb, and it will not trigger a system restore point

As always, if you need the Full Engine and Full Defs update
[for example after a new install/reinstall of Defender]
you can get it at the Microsoft Malware Protection Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/
https://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx
The full MPAS-FE is currently 11. MB


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Tim

 

[×מיר]

Tim(& friends),
after installing the last WU engine- >the last 2 defender update created
restore point (i update via WU) why is it? how to fix it?
thansk!

 

[Ǝиçεl]

Hello ×מיר,

Here are answers to some common questions about System Restore.

Applies to all editions of Windows Vista.

How often are restore points created?
Restore points are created automatically every day, and just before
significant system events, such as the installation of a program or device
driver.
Source:
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/517d3b8e-3379-46c1-b479-05b30d6fb3f01033.mspx>

How does System Restore work?
System Restore uses restore points to return your system files and settings
to an earlier point in time, without affecting personal files. For more
information, see What is System Restore?
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9f6d755a-74bb-4a7d-a625-d762dd8e79e51033.mspx>



Ǝиçεl
◕‿◕
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http://www.bing.com/search?mkt=en-us&setlang=en-us&q=System+Restore&form=MSSBMN

Tim(& friends),
after installing the last WU engine- >the last 2 defender update created
restore point (i update via WU) why is it? how to fix it?
thansk!

Windows Defender Delta Update: 1.67.379.0 Link

The link is as follows:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._27784f4cbe88261b2110feae6e9fc2a5b375a9c4.exe
Size is only 375kb, and it will not trigger a system restore point

As always, if you need the Full Engine and Full Defs update
[for example after a new install/reinstall of Defender]
you can get it at the Microsoft Malware Protection Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/
https://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx
The full MPAS-FE is currently 11. MB


?
Tim

 

[×מיר]

Hi Ǝиçεl
thanks for the links.
My specific question is why restore points upon defender update (last two)
were created ?
as tim wrote
"Size is only 375kb, and it will not trigger a system restore point" .
(Before installing the last WU engine -it did not happen )

Hello ×מיר,

Here are answers to some common questions about System Restore.

Applies to all editions of Windows Vista.

How often are restore points created?
Restore points are created automatically every day, and just before
significant system events, such as the installation of a program or device
driver.
Source:
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/517d3b8e-3379-46c1-b479-05b30d6fb3f01033.mspx>

How does System Restore work?
System Restore uses restore points to return your system files and settings
to an earlier point in time, without affecting personal files. For more
information, see What is System Restore?
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9f6d755a-74bb-4a7d-a625-d762dd8e79e51033.mspx>



Ǝиçεl
◕‿◕
-=-









http://www.bing.com/search?mkt=en-us&setlang=en-us&q=System+Restore&form=MSSBMN

Tim(& friends),
after installing the last WU engine- >the last 2 defender update created
restore point (i update via WU) why is it? how to fix it?
thansk!

Windows Defender Delta Update: 1.67.379.0 Link

The link is as follows:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._27784f4cbe88261b2110feae6e9fc2a5b375a9c4.exe
Size is only 375kb, and it will not trigger a system restore point

As always, if you need the Full Engine and Full Defs update
[for example after a new install/reinstall of Defender]
you can get it at the Microsoft Malware Protection Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/
https://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx
The full MPAS-FE is currently 11. MB


?
Tim

 

[×מיר]

-----------the restore points name are "windows update" . ----------

Hi Ǝиçεl
thanks for the links.
My specific question is why restore points upon defender update (last two)
were created ?
as tim wrote
"Size is only 375kb, and it will not trigger a system restore point" .
(Before installing the last WU engine -it did not happen )

Hello ×מיר,

Here are answers to some common questions about System Restore.

Applies to all editions of Windows Vista.

How often are restore points created?
Restore points are created automatically every day, and just before
significant system events, such as the installation of a program or device
driver.
Source:
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/517d3b8e-3379-46c1-b479-05b30d6fb3f01033.mspx>

How does System Restore work?
System Restore uses restore points to return your system files and settings
to an earlier point in time, without affecting personal files. For more
information, see What is System Restore?
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/9f6d755a-74bb-4a7d-a625-d762dd8e79e51033.mspx>



Ǝиçεl
◕‿◕
-=-









http://www.bing.com/search?mkt=en-us&setlang=en-us&q=System+Restore&form=MSSBMN

Tim(& friends),
after installing the last WU engine- >the last 2 defender update created
restore point (i update via WU) why is it? how to fix it?
thansk!

:

Windows Defender Delta Update: 1.67.379.0 Link

The link is as follows:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._27784f4cbe88261b2110feae6e9fc2a5b375a9c4.exe
Size is only 375kb, and it will not trigger a system restore point

As always, if you need the Full Engine and Full Defs update
[for example after a new install/reinstall of Defender]
you can get it at the Microsoft Malware Protection Center:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/
https://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Definitions/ADL.aspx
The full MPAS-FE is currently 11. MB


?
Tim

 

[Tim Clark]

×מיר,

When you use WindowsUpdate, that is you go to the Site and have it check for
what you might need, and accept what it offers, IT creates a System Restore
Point. (simple version The Update Site commands your machine to make a
STP)

It does not matter that you were only updating the defs of Defender, Windows
Update does this for any update you get. That is one of the reasons I
provide the link to the direct download of the updates, it by passes the use
of the Windows Update site completely.

Windows Update was designed for "big, important updates !!!" that could
really effect your system in dramatic ways, so creating a restore point is a
good thing. Its just rather silly that it does it if you just update for
defs, but that's the way it works.

So again, it is not the update itself that is causing the SRP, it is the use
of WU to get the update.

Hope that makes things a little clearer

Tim

 

[×מיר]

thanks for your detailed answer Tim
1-as far as i remember it wasn't the situation until i updated WU engiene
few days ago- am i wrong?
2-it's ruther funny (to me) that small ~400k update will triger System
Restore Point.
3-in my other pc (xp pro) there is no System Restore Point trigering after
any update...
4-next defender update i'll try your link to the direct download of the
updates, and report later on.
And YES things are little clearer
THANKS

 

[Tim Clark]

thanks for your detailed answer Tim
1-as far as i remember it wasn't the situation until i updated WU engiene
few days ago- am i wrong?

I don't think so

2-it's ruther funny (to me) that small ~400k update will triger System
Restore Point.

You have to remember that Windows Update has been around a lot longer than
Defender. It was not designed to update a relatively small database twice a
week. It was intended to provide Fixes and Patches, to repair and defend
against vulnerabilities that were discovered. WU is not a fun place, no one
goes there unless something is wrong and has to be fixed.

Think of Windows Update as a hospital that was designed only to do major
surgery. As soon as you agree to the surgery they make you an appointment
with the anesthesiologist. The problem is you are there to have a splinter
removed and don't really need an anesthesia. Doesn't matter, that's how they
are set up. You get a Patch, You get a SRP, unless you disable System
Restore.

3-in my other pc (xp pro) there is no System Restore Point trigering after
any update...

Do you have any System Restore Points at all?
Do you have System Restore disabled on that machine?

4-next defender update i'll try your link to the direct download of the
updates, and report later on.

"Probably" will have the link up around around 12:00pm Thursday, "God
willing and the creek don't rise"

 

[Tim Clark]

thanks for your detailed answer Tim

I don't think so

Correction
That should be , I don't think anything has changed

 

[×מיר]

Tim,
thanks again! your answers make everything clear.
about Q3- xp system restore was disable....