Damn you, Microsoft - CAN'T INSTALL SP1

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Adam Albright

Well I'll give you one thing, you damn well like the sound of your own
voice. Keep swimming around that goldfish bowl of yours. And keep repeating
that mantra that's stuck in your head. Microsoft is bad! Microsoft is Bad!
You are so opinionated you are beyond belief. At least I have to option of
kill file, I'd rather not bother with the load of rubbish you spout. Go get
a life!!!

Ain't that precious. Damn, I sure nailed your sorry ass didn't I.

Typical MVP blowhard can't handle the truth about how he's perceived
here.
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

Sorry, but you failed miserably to "nail" anyone.
What you have accomplished is to foolishly
portray yourself as a pseudo-intellectual (sic) newsgroup
harasser with no appreciation whatsoever.

Best if you moved on to a different newsgroup
as no one enjoys reading your ilk here.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows System & Performance

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:

Well I'll give you one thing, you damn well like the sound of your own
voice. Keep swimming around that goldfish bowl of yours. And keep repeating
that mantra that's stuck in your head. Microsoft is bad! Microsoft is Bad!
You are so opinionated you are beyond belief. At least I have to option of
kill file, I'd rather not bother with the load of rubbish you spout. Go get
a life!!!

Ain't that precious. Damn, I sure nailed your sorry ass didn't I.

Typical MVP blowhard can't handle the truth about how he's perceived
here.
 
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Adam Albright

Sorry, but you failed miserably to "nail" anyone.
What you have accomplished is to foolishly
portray yourself as a pseudo-intellectual (sic) newsgroup
harasser with no appreciation whatsoever.

Best if you moved on to a different newsgroup
as no one enjoys reading your ilk here.

Even without a cue the MVP gang confirms they are the pompous clueless
Microsoft butt kissing no nothing jerks I said. Too funny.
 
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bluemoon

i have vista home premium and for the last few weeks when i turn it on it
goes to configuring updates then shuts down and starts up again ocasonaly ill
get an error and cant log onto windows can enayone help
 
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lensv

Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
in this thread ;-)

Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).

Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.

What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu to
be 100% busy with Windows processes...
 
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Adam Albright

Wow, I guess that my case drowned here beneath the juicy side-track-debate
in this thread ;-)

Here's an update... Svchost.exe is another process that takes alot of
resources (I noticed after showing processes from all users).

Also, the Application log error disappears after rebooting the system. The
cpu actually settles down a little by that, but after a few hours the log
starts to gets filled again and the cpu is back at 100% once more.

What's happening here? I don't want these errors and I don't want my cpu to
be 100% busy with Windows processes...

What's happening is something is hogging your resources. If your
system is in good working order rarely should CPU usage stay about 30%
except for some random spikes. I have 84 processes running right now
and my CPU usage is hovering around 18%. If you're doing something
that puts an extreme load on your CPU like video editing, then CPU
usage will run much higher. For doing just normal stuff like web
surfing, word processing most graphic applications and the like you
should be able to maintain around 2/3 rds of your CPU in reserve...if
not, something is probably wrong and time to start hunting for what's
causing it.

Use Task Manager to help pin down what's going on. Go to the processes
tab, then click on the CPU column which will sort the processes in
order by what is using the most. If it comes up sorted least first,
just click again on the column header. Now you have an idea WHAT is
causing it.

Now that you have an idea WHAT is doing it, watch it by switching to
the performance tab. Click on Resource Monitor, then click on the
little arrow next to CPU usage and just watch for a few minutes.
Once here click on the threads column so whatever is using the most is
at the top, then alternate between the CPU usage columns. One or more
items will probably jump out from the rest. These are probably what
you want to focus on.

It's just common sense trying to guess what's happening. Just because
something is running a lot of threads doesn't mean something is wrong.
As an example right now on my system javaw.exe is using a lot of
threads. I'm not alarmed because I know why. I have my E-Trade account
open and using Market Trader which runs under Java that takes up some
resources to keep showing the ever changing stock prices, market
tickers, news wire, etc.. The other big hog is system, the NT kernel.
Again, expected. What you want to look for is something hogging
resources BIG time you don't expect to be hogging CPU cycles. That
likely is the problem application or service.
 
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lensv

Thanks Adam. Like I said before the processes that are stealing most of the
resources are svchost.exe, explorer.exe and iexplore.exe, but probably the
errors in the Event Viewer are behind this behaviour...

/Ps. The "System" is owner of the most threads here (141, followed by
iexpore 54, exporer 43 and svchost, 40)
 
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John Barnett MVP

No lensv, your case hasn't drowned.

Have you virus scanned your system? The same applies to spyware/malware
scan. I'm not saying that this could be the problem, but it has been known
for a virus/spyware/malware infection to cause this type of problem. I would
also suggest using hijackthis (visit this site for more details:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php ) Obviously any hijackthis
file you create needs to be looked at by someone who can interpret the
results, so you may need to post the hijackthis file on the spywareinfo
forum (see the link above).

The excessive CPU usage appeared 'after' SP1 was installed? You haven't seen
this behaviour 'prior' to installing SP1? As a last resort you might try a
system restore prior to when you installed SP1 and then try installing SP1
again to see if this corrects the problem. (alternatively, you can simply
uninstall SP1 (see my website:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/uninstall_windows_sp1.htm )


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John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
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lensv

I'm pretty sure there are no malwares in this system...

I've tried uninstalling this service pack, but the problem persists.
Installing it again doesn't make any difference. Since I didn't have this
problem before SP1 is obvioulsy messing up the system :(
 
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cwhite

I too installed service pack 1 as soon as it was available thru tech net.
Install went okay but suddenly every morning I had to repair my office suite
and my users/localsettings locked me out. I posted the problems, waited a
week and uninstalled. Just reinstalled it a few days ago. Having similar
problems with office suite and now see a remote access error
Now I am getting this error:
The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the Secure Socket
Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start because of the
following error:
The account specified for this service is different from the account
specified for other services running in the same process.

They certainly are providing themselves job security.
 
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Donald McDaniel

cwhite said:
I too installed service pack 1 as soon as it was available thru tech net.
Install went okay but suddenly every morning I had to repair my office
suite
and my users/localsettings locked me out. I posted the problems, waited a
week and uninstalled. Just reinstalled it a few days ago. Having similar
problems with office suite and now see a remote access error
Now I am getting this error:
The Remote Access Connection Manager service depends on the Secure Socket
Tunneling Protocol Service service which failed to start because of the
following error:
The account specified for this service is different from the account
specified for other services running in the same process.

They certainly are providing themselves job security.


I don't know why you are having a problem. Maybe it's you that's causing
the problem.
I've had no problems with the service pack on my Dell laptop or on my
home-built Desktop machine.

Try doing it microsoft's way, rather than yours.
 
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Adam Albright

I don't know why you are having a problem.

Yet it didn't stop you from flapping your gums.
Try doing it microsoft's way, rather than yours.

Wow, that's great advice Donald. Really. Sure. Pray tell, WHAT way is
Microsoft's way?
 

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