Cygwin 1.5.8-1 - A UNIX-like environment for Win32.

[Gordon Darling]

Cygwin 1.5.8-1 - A UNIX-like environment for Win32.

About:
Cygwin is a DLL which provides a Unix emulation environment for Windows.
The Cygwin environment provides a complete port of such development
utilities as gcc, binutils, gdb, make, etc., as well as a vast number of
useful utilities.

Changes:
This release fixes some reported "hangs", implements timer functions, adds
improved Linux-like tape handling capabilities, fixes a problem with
localtime in Perl, and includes minor tweaks and enhancements.

Release focus: Major bugfixes
License: GNU General Public License (GPL)
Project URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/cygwin/

Tar/BZ2: http://freshmeat.net/redir/cygwin/1662/url_bz2/setup.exe

Regards
Gordon

 

[Andreas Kaestner]

Gordon Darling ([email protected]) schrieb/wrote:

Cygwin 1.5.8-1 - A UNIX-like environment for Win32.

Hi Gordon,

Why do you mark your (much appreciated) postings with "X-No-Archive: Yes"?
Any chance you will choose an encoding other than UTF-8?
(Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" or something similar would be nice).

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[Gordon Darling]

Gordon Darling ([email protected]) schrieb/wrote:


Hi Gordon,

Why do you mark your (much appreciated) postings with "X-No-Archive:
Yes"?

"X-No-Archive: Yes" isn't actually part of any of the standards or RFCs.
It goes back to the days of Deja-News (before Google was created) and
Google, who acquired Deja-News, have honoured it (at least, till now).
Though some other archiving sites ignore it.
Let's just say I'm very cynical about the data-mining possibilities of the
Internet and prefer to make the life of those who want to try data-mining
as difficult as possible!

Any chance you will choose an encoding other than UTF-8?
(Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" or something similar
would be nice).

Surprised you're having problems with it. It's a multibyte standard, which
almost everyone in the Unix world uses as the Unicode encoding of choice.
UTF-8 allows legacy systems to transmit/read the whole of the ASCII
superset. And the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) requires all
Internet protocols to identify the encoding used for character data with
UTF-8 as at least one supported encoding. So, in theory, UTF-8 should be
rendered acceptably on any Operating System in any language in the world.

In fact OE5.5 seems to handle it OK and used UTF-8 to reply. From your
headers:-

"X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
X-Priority: 3
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit"

Anyone else having problems rendering my posts?
Anyway, changed to ISO-8859-1 to assist!

Regards
Gordon

 

[Antoine]

Anyone else having problems rendering my posts?
Anyway, changed to ISO-8859-1 to assist!

No problem now but no problem before either.
By the way, I would like to thank you Gordon for your constant
effort of posting freeware releases.

 

[Andreas Kaestner]

Gordon Darling ([email protected]) schrieb/wrote:

Let's just say I'm very cynical about the data-mining possibilities
of the Internet and prefer to make the life of those who want to try
data-mining as difficult as possible!

Data-mining as such is not a bad thing. I personally use the
google groups quite often to find tips, reviews, and comments.

[..]

Anyone else having problems rendering my posts?
Anyway, changed to ISO-8859-1 to assist!

Thank you VERY MUCH!

 

[William F. Adams]

Gordon asked:

Anyone else having problems rendering my posts?

They don't (well, didn't) show text in older versions of the AOL client (I
prefer 3.0 since it's the last one AFAIK which'll pervasively do plain text
instead of defaulting to HTML).

Anyway, changed to ISO-8859-1 to assist!

Thanks, now I'll not have to wait until I borrow my wife's PowerBook to read
them.

William

 

[Gordon Darling]

Gordon asked:

They don't (well, didn't) show text in older versions of the AOL client (I
prefer 3.0 since it's the last one AFAIK which'll pervasively do plain text
instead of defaulting to HTML).


Thanks, now I'll not have to wait until I borrow my wife's PowerBook to read
them.

Whoops, sorry about that!

Regards
Gordon

 

[Gordon Darling]

No problem now but no problem before either.
By the way, I would like to thank you Gordon for your constant
effort of posting freeware releases.

Your welcome Antoine. Glad you find the posts useful.

Regards
Gordon

 

[Gordon Darling]

Gordon Darling ([email protected]) schrieb/wrote:


Data-mining as such is not a bad thing. I personally use the google
groups quite often to find tips, reviews, and comments.

Unfortunately, what was/is a great resource will almost certainly be badly
abused for commercial gain in the future. And first on the bandwagon is
guess who?
http://news.com.com/2102-1082_3-5065298.html

According to Microsoft's resident "sociologist" MS is developing a
search engine of sorts for newsgroups.

Some of the quotes from the MS mouthpiece.

"What newsgroups are is a form of knowledge management application."

"What we want to say is, 'There are different vectors through this content
space, different ways of slicing into the data...' "

"What about small threads of high value? How can you help me find them?"
The answer is that we are, by leveraging latent structural data that is
itself a product of collective behavior."

"It's a way to slice a vector into the content space that measures how
dedicated are the people to this newsgroup."

"Regulars are value contributors. There are three other metrics, which
tend to be ratios."

"If you wrote 10 times, all into one thread, that's a low ratio. You have
a high conversational concentration."

Q--Is that good or bad?

"I'm a social scientist--I don't know the difference between good and bad,
only the difference between difference."

"And the way to do that is to start looking at the social accounting
metadata about authors."

"We are trying to create analogous tools for online environments where
that data is latent, is not manifest in the interfaces visibly."

"...a person with no reputation is a person who has a reputation."

"In some ways, consider us a form of performance art. Would you like to
see you? This is potent."

If you can make sense of this crap you are doing better than I am. Either
way I don't want to be part of Microsoft's attempt to commercialise
and take over another bit of the Internet.

Regards
Gordon

 

[Roger Johansson]

Unfortunately, what was/is a great resource will almost certainly be badly
abused for commercial gain in the future. And first on the bandwagon is
guess who?

Is that a good reason for us to stop working together, develop new linux
versions, do scientific work, develop the thinking of mankind in general,
just because it could be, and often is, used by commercial interests?

I don't think so. That is not a sensible strategy.

What we should do is to increase our own cooperation, develop better ways
to think and help each other.
One day we will get our own forms of cooperation working so well that the
commercial interests have no say anymore, in the directions we choose for
the future of mankind.

A good and recent example of that is what is happening in the software
arena right now.
Voluntary cooperation and organisation has taken the lead in the
development of operating systems, and a lot of client programs.

The commercial interests are getting more and more problems in trying to
feed off the voluntary work.

They have lost the leading role completely, they have no say anymore in how
the world of software is going to be developed.

They are reduced to selling ready-made CD:s and printed manuals for the
free software, for the few who cannot download and burn the CDs themselves.

We have reached this far, not by hiding information or by secrecy, but
through complete openness and making information as available to each other
as possible.

It is like a war where we shout to each other on the battlefield, telling
everything we know about the enemy positions, about our own positions,
about what we are going to do, and this information is much more valuable
to ourselves than it can be useful for our enemies, because we are millions
of people and they are a few. We have the initiative and they can only try
to keep up with the work of millions of volunteers who cooperate with each
other.

They have ruled this world for a very long time, through a system of
secrecy, business secrets, political secrets, social and religious secrets.

The only way we can free ourselves from those old power systems is by
sharing information openly, and we do not have to worry about that our
enemies, the old systems, can hear us.

_We_ gain a lot more from open communication and free access to information
than our enemies ever can.

We shouldn't worry about any enemies, let's work together for a better
future which we create together, in open and free communication and sharing
of information. That will blow away all the old clouds of fear and
confusion which the old power systems relied on.

 

[Andreas Kaestner]

Gordon Darling ([email protected]) schrieb/wrote:

Either way I don't want to be part of Microsoft's attempt to
commercialise and take over another bit of the Internet.

If you treat your postings as if they have never been sent,
others will treat them the same way ...