Curious about trying XP SP3?

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

For those brave enough to want to try it:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_XP_Service_Pack_3/1197391546/1

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Shenan Stanley]

For those brave enough to want to try it:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_XP_Service_Pack_3/1197391546/1

Just as an additional warning:

BETA equates to "not final version".

Personally - I would not recommend running this on any machine you value the
data on/don't have a backup of you can revert to in short notice. Although
it is out in the world now - for public consumption -

In other words: You install at your own risk - even more than you would if
it was a 'final' release - because then you would at least you might have
options to get some support if things went wrong.


** Can you get this straight from Microsoft 'publically'? A cursory search
(by myself) could not find a legitimate Microsoft download link - doesn't
mean there isn't one...

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

Just as an additional warning:

BETA equates to "not final version".

Personally - I would not recommend running this on any machine you value the
data on/don't have a backup of you can revert to in short notice. Although
it is out in the world now - for public consumption -

In other words: You install at your own risk - even more than you would if
it was a 'final' release - because then you would at least you might have
options to get some support if things went wrong.


** Can you get this straight from Microsoft 'publically'? A cursory search
(by myself) could not find a legitimate Microsoft download link - doesn't
mean there isn't one...

I believe it does originate from the big MS. Last I checked, release
candidate is the closest thing to final release and a beta is not a
release candidate quality product. All responsibility for failures or
damage from using a non-final product is always that of the tester.
Companies "leaking" out their beta software to see how it behaves in
the wild (or writes about it from the tech blogs) has become the norm.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle and knowledge wants to be
free.

On the above web site, only the vendor / author or company can put
the file there. At least, last I checked on the T's & C's of the site.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Shenan Stanley]

For those brave enough to want to try it:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_XP_Service_Pack_3/1197391546/1

Just as an additional warning:

BETA equates to "not final version".

Personally - I would not recommend running this on any machine you
value the data on/don't have a backup of you can revert to in
short notice. Although it is out in the world now - for public
consumption -

In other words: You install at your own risk - even more than you
would if it was a 'final' release - because then you would at
least you might have options to get some support if things went
wrong.


** Can you get this straight from Microsoft 'publically'? A
cursory search (by myself) could not find a legitimate Microsoft
download link - doesn't mean there isn't one...

I believe it does originate from the big MS. Last I checked, release
candidate is the closest thing to final release and a beta is not a
release candidate quality product. All responsibility for failures
or damage from using a non-final product is always that of the
tester. Companies "leaking" out their beta software to see how it
behaves in the wild (or writes about it from the tech blogs) has
become the norm. You can't put the genie back in the bottle and
knowledge wants to be free.

On the above web site, only the vendor / author or company can put
the file there. At least, last I checked on the T's & C's of the
site.

I have no problem with you posting it - I was just adding a warning.

Although generally 'Release Candidate' does mean it is closer to release
date - I have seen products go through several 'Release Candidate' releases
before going final - so this is *still* generally 'beta' in my mind - or to
be more accurate and use my own words: "not final version".

As for the T's and C's of the site...

http://www.betanews.com/help
"How do I list a program on FileForum/BetaNews?
Whether you are the author or just a BetaNews member, you can add programs
to FileForum/BetaNews by visiting:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/addprogram."

However - there is a procedure of checks and balances:
"The FileForum submission process allows you to update a software title
currently on the site, or submit a new program. The procedure is automated,
but our editors must verify all submissions before they appear on the site.

If you are the actual author of this program, you will have access to
changing all information including screenshot, description, links, etc. If
you are not the author, you will still be able to submit basic updates to
the program."

So it is likely legitimate - but that is *not* why I asked if there was a
public Microsoft link... I think it would be better to obtain it directly
from Microsoft however. heh

 

[Gordon]

I believe it does originate from the big MS. Last I checked, release
candidate is the closest thing to final release and a beta is not a
release candidate quality product. All responsibility for failures or
damage from using a non-final product is always that of the tester.
Companies "leaking" out their beta software to see how it behaves in
the wild (or writes about it from the tech blogs) has become the norm.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle and knowledge wants to be
free.

On the above web site, only the vendor / author or company can put
the file there. At least, last I checked on the T's & C's of the site.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

I'd be VERY surprised if that is an official MS file - as it's currently
available (so I've been told) on Technet and MSDN....

 

[Gerry]

Whoever

I wonder what the Windows Explorer bugs are?


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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[Thee Chicago Wolf]

I have no problem with you posting it - I was just adding a warning.

Although generally 'Release Candidate' does mean it is closer to release
date - I have seen products go through several 'Release Candidate' releases
before going final - so this is *still* generally 'beta' in my mind - or to
be more accurate and use my own words: "not final version".

Yes, this is the situation with Server 2008. It was RC0 a bit ago and
is now RC1. I've seen things go RC3, server 2000 and XP SP2 did if I
recall. It ain't final til it's final.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[VanguardLH]

For those brave enough to want to try it:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_XP_Service_Pack_3/1197391546/1

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Since the official beta download size is 70.6MB, what is the other
266MB in that download for? I've seen several SP3 downloads that
include cracked or pirated versions of software totally unrelated to
SP3 and some that included spyware. The official download is only 100
MB. The betanews download is 336MB. You go figure what the extra
crap is inside that download file.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

For those brave enough to want to try it:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_XP_Service_Pack_3/1197391546/1

Since the official beta download size is 70.6MB, what is the other
266MB in that download for? I've seen several SP3 downloads that
include cracked or pirated versions of software totally unrelated to
SP3 and some that included spyware. The official download is only
100 MB. The betanews download is 336MB. You go figure what the
extra crap is inside that download file.

The download from MSDN is 336MB.

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 1 (x86) - EXE (English)
Filename: en_windows_xp_service_pack_3_release_candidate_1_x86_60967.exe
Date/Time Posted: 2007-12-03 20:14:27 (UTC)
File Size: 336 MB

I don't recall the beta download unfortunately - although I seem to recall
it being larger than 70MB. Heck - I cannot download SP2 plus the 90+
updates released after it that should be included in SP3 and imagine coming
close to a number as low as 70MB. ;-)

In fact - it is interesting the size difference you give... 266MB? How big
is SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

266.0MB!

 

[Gary Brandenburg]

The download from MSDN is 336MB.

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 1 (x86) - EXE (English)
Filename: en_windows_xp_service_pack_3_release_candidate_1_x86_60967.exe
Date/Time Posted: 2007-12-03 20:14:27 (UTC)
File Size: 336 MB

I don't recall the beta download unfortunately - although I seem to recall it being
larger than 70MB. Heck - I cannot download SP2 plus the 90+ updates released after
it that should be included in SP3 and imagine coming close to a number as low as
70MB. ;-)

In fact - it is interesting the size difference you give... 266MB? How big is
SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

266.0MB!

It also surfaced at :
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Microsoft_Windows_XP_Service_Pack_3_d4323.html today.

I clicked on *Author's Site*, just to see where the download would originate from, &
it shows From: download.windowsupdate.com .

~Gary

 

[VanguardLH]

in message

The download from MSDN is 336MB.

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 1 (x86) - EXE (English)
Filename:
en_windows_xp_service_pack_3_release_candidate_1_x86_60967.exe
Date/Time Posted: 2007-12-03 20:14:27 (UTC)
File Size: 336 MB

I don't recall the beta download unfortunately - although I seem to
recall it being larger than 70MB. Heck - I cannot download SP2 plus
the 90+ updates released after it that should be included in SP3 and
imagine coming close to a number as low as 70MB. ;-)

In fact - it is interesting the size difference you give... 266MB?
How big is SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...BE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A&displaylang=en

266.0MB!

When I got it from the Windows Update site, it was 70.6MB. However,
it probably checks what might be missing that should've been included
in SP-2 and downloads that to install it, too. The download file
which is a standalone install probably includes SP-2 and hotfixes
after that and probably accounts for the enlarged size of the download
file. However, a lot of the file would be superfluous to anyone that
already has SP-2 and the later updates installed.

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

Since the official beta download size is 70.6MB, what is the other

266MB in that download for? I've seen several SP3 downloads that
include cracked or pirated versions of software totally unrelated to
SP3 and some that included spyware. The official download is only 100
MB. The betanews download is 336MB. You go figure what the extra
crap is inside that download file.

I have no idea what that is but I have seen nothing documented or
otherwise stating that SP3 for XP is going to be anything less than
300+MB.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[VanguardLH]

I have no idea what that is but I have seen nothing documented or
otherwise stating that SP3 for XP is going to be anything less than
300+MB.

Already discussed over 9 hours ago. See my 2nd post yesterday (and
Gary's reply). It appears SP-2 is included. I forgot that service
packs are cumulative.