CSS questions

[Crash Gordon]

Howdy,

I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.

No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all with .css exts of course.

I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid colors?

I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?

Same question for Theme.css.

Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which sheets...should that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me only the theme the page is supposed to be using.

Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this machine today!

Robo

 

[chris leeds]

here's the "dilly"
the whole point of a css file is that you could, except for the menu bars,
get rid of a theme with one.
I've never understood why so many style sheets with the fp themes but once
you get into the style sheets, www.bradsoft.com is a good system, you'll
probably never go back to themes again.
maybe not an answer but it's hard-learned advice. The worst thing I did
when I was learning fp 2002 with Jim Buyens' book was to gloss over his
"style sheet allusion" early in the book. I could have saved myself a lot
of time and energy learning that rather than getting caught up in the
themes. </IMO>

Howdy,

I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.

No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all with
..css exts of course.

I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid colors?

I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come
into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?

Same question for Theme.css.

Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which sheets...should
that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me only the theme the
page is supposed to be using.

Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this
machine today!

Robo

 

[Net55]

Theme info is store in the _themes folder themes.inf this
is a hidden forlder that you can view by clicking tools -
web settings - advanced - show hidden files and folders

-----Original Message-----
Howdy,

I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.

No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1,

Custom, Themes (all with .css exts of course.

I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid colors?

I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where

does the Custom come into play? Is that created if I make
an FP change?

Same question for Theme.css.

Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using

which sheets...should that be visible in page styles? The
meta name shows me only the theme the page is supposed to
be using.

Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying

to blow up this machine today!

 

[Crash Gordon]

yah I have topstyle lite. it's good, but it's still trial and error for a newbie to see what is effecting what...if you know what I mean.

I guess the confusion (with me at least) is the cryptic names of FP's style sheet....can't the be called something more descriptive - more related to the theme? (rhetorical question).

Although I've almost abandoned the use of Themes (I still use them occassionally if I like the nav bar styles..but only for that)...it's still mystifying to me how the theme.css relates to the other style sheets...yah I know _themes.inf...still a little confusing.

I'm 96 hours into Sam's CSS in 24 hours! ... I'll figure it out someday!

R.

| here's the "dilly"
| the whole point of a css file is that you could, except for the menu bars,
| get rid of a theme with one.
| I've never understood why so many style sheets with the fp themes but once
| you get into the style sheets, www.bradsoft.com is a good system, you'll
| probably never go back to themes again.
| maybe not an answer but it's hard-learned advice. The worst thing I did
| when I was learning fp 2002 with Jim Buyens' book was to gloss over his
| "style sheet allusion" early in the book. I could have saved myself a lot
| of time and energy learning that rather than getting caught up in the
| themes. </IMO>
|
| | Howdy,
|
| I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.
|
| No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
| The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all with
| .css exts of course.
|
| I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid colors?
|
| I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come
| into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?
|
| Same question for Theme.css.
|
| Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which sheets...should
| that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me only the theme the
| page is supposed to be using.
|
| Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this
| machine today!
|
| Robo
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: (e-mail address removed)
|
|
|
|

 

[chris leeds]

there's a great book at www.sitepoint.com about html without tables. I'm
not into the table-less thing but it's the best .css book I've found.

yah I have topstyle lite. it's good, but it's still trial and error for a
newbie to see what is effecting what...if you know what I mean.

I guess the confusion (with me at least) is the cryptic names of FP's style
sheet....can't the be called something more descriptive - more related to
the theme? (rhetorical question).

Although I've almost abandoned the use of Themes (I still use them
occassionally if I like the nav bar styles..but only for that)...it's still
mystifying to me how the theme.css relates to the other style sheets...yah I
know _themes.inf...still a little confusing.

I'm 96 hours into Sam's CSS in 24 hours! ... I'll figure it out someday!

R.

| here's the "dilly"
| the whole point of a css file is that you could, except for the menu bars,
| get rid of a theme with one.
| I've never understood why so many style sheets with the fp themes but once
| you get into the style sheets, www.bradsoft.com is a good system, you'll
| probably never go back to themes again.
| maybe not an answer but it's hard-learned advice. The worst thing I did
| when I was learning fp 2002 with Jim Buyens' book was to gloss over his
| "style sheet allusion" early in the book. I could have saved myself a lot
| of time and energy learning that rather than getting caught up in the
| themes. </IMO>
|
| | Howdy,
|
| I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.
|
| No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
| The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all
with
| .css exts of course.
|
| I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid
colors?
|
| I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come
| into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?
|
| Same question for Theme.css.
|
| Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which
sheets...should
| that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me only the theme the
| page is supposed to be using.
|
| Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this
| machine today!
|
| Robo
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: (e-mail address removed)
|
|
|
|

 

[Crash Gordon]

too many books right now!...CSS, MySQL, Frontpage Upside Down, Access for Numbskulls, ASP for Apses...my wife already thinks I'm nuts!




| there's a great book at www.sitepoint.com about html without tables. I'm
| not into the table-less thing but it's the best .css book I've found.
|
| | yah I have topstyle lite. it's good, but it's still trial and error for a
| newbie to see what is effecting what...if you know what I mean.
|
| I guess the confusion (with me at least) is the cryptic names of FP's style
| sheet....can't the be called something more descriptive - more related to
| the theme? (rhetorical question).
|
| Although I've almost abandoned the use of Themes (I still use them
| occassionally if I like the nav bar styles..but only for that)...it's still
| mystifying to me how the theme.css relates to the other style sheets...yah I
| know _themes.inf...still a little confusing.
|
| I'm 96 hours into Sam's CSS in 24 hours! ... I'll figure it out someday!
|
| R.
|
| | | here's the "dilly"
| | the whole point of a css file is that you could, except for the menu bars,
| | get rid of a theme with one.
| | I've never understood why so many style sheets with the fp themes but once
| | you get into the style sheets, www.bradsoft.com is a good system, you'll
| | probably never go back to themes again.
| | maybe not an answer but it's hard-learned advice. The worst thing I did
| | when I was learning fp 2002 with Jim Buyens' book was to gloss over his
| | "style sheet allusion" early in the book. I could have saved myself a lot
| | of time and energy learning that rather than getting caught up in the
| | themes. </IMO>
| |
| | | | Howdy,
| |
| | I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.
| |
| | No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
| | The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all
| with
| | .css exts of course.
| |
| | I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid
| colors?
| |
| | I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come
| | into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?
| |
| | Same question for Theme.css.
| |
| | Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which
| sheets...should
| | that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me only the theme the
| | page is supposed to be using.
| |
| | Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this
| | machine today!
| |
| | Robo
| |
| | --
| | From: "Crash Gordon"
| | email: (e-mail address removed)
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|

 

[chris leeds]

mine too. I've got more weight in books than I do machines.

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too many books right now!...CSS, MySQL, Frontpage Upside Down, Access for
Numbskulls, ASP for Apses...my wife already thinks I'm nuts!




| there's a great book at www.sitepoint.com about html without tables. I'm
| not into the table-less thing but it's the best .css book I've found.
|
| | yah I have topstyle lite. it's good, but it's still trial and error for a
| newbie to see what is effecting what...if you know what I mean.
|
| I guess the confusion (with me at least) is the cryptic names of FP's
style
| sheet....can't the be called something more descriptive - more related to
| the theme? (rhetorical question).
|
| Although I've almost abandoned the use of Themes (I still use them
| occassionally if I like the nav bar styles..but only for that)...it's
still
| mystifying to me how the theme.css relates to the other style sheets...yah
I
| know _themes.inf...still a little confusing.
|
| I'm 96 hours into Sam's CSS in 24 hours! ... I'll figure it out someday!
|
| R.
|
| | | here's the "dilly"
| | the whole point of a css file is that you could, except for the menu
bars,
| | get rid of a theme with one.
| | I've never understood why so many style sheets with the fp themes but
once
| | you get into the style sheets, www.bradsoft.com is a good system, you'll
| | probably never go back to themes again.
| | maybe not an answer but it's hard-learned advice. The worst thing I did
| | when I was learning fp 2002 with Jim Buyens' book was to gloss over his
| | "style sheet allusion" early in the book. I could have saved myself a
lot
| | of time and energy learning that rather than getting caught up in the
| | themes. </IMO>
| |
| | | | Howdy,
| |
| | I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.
| |
| | No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
| | The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all
| with
| | .css exts of course.
| |
| | I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid
| colors?
| |
| | I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom
come
| | into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?
| |
| | Same question for Theme.css.
| |
| | Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which
| sheets...should
| | that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me only the theme
the
| | page is supposed to be using.
| |
| | Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this
| | machine today!
| |
| | Robo
| |
| | --
| | From: "Crash Gordon"
| | email: (e-mail address removed)
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Theme css files & what they are used for:
graph0.css - Normal Graphics Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
graph1.css - Active Graphics Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
color0.css - Normal Color Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
color1.css - Active Color Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
theme.css - Font Selections to theme
custom.css - Created only if you modify a theme, collects Changes to above & any new styles
themename1111.css - Created only if you Apply theme using css - combines All of above

All of above are automatically changed by FP if you modify your theme (& when you Recalc Hyperlinks) so your All your edits to these
css files will be lost (FP rereads the original theme .elm file).

For granular editing of FP theme css files see
http://sbrenjoy.bizland.com/frontpage/themes/newthemes.html

--




Howdy,

I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.

No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all with .css exts of course.

I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid colors?

I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?

Same question for Theme.css.

Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which sheets...should that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me
only the theme the page is supposed to be using.

Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this machine today!

Robo

 

[Crash Gordon]

Stefan,

COOL THAT"S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW !! Can you see my tiny brain synapses (little sparks and lightbulbs) finally connecting from where you are?

Now it makes sense.
It now seems to me it'd be easier to start with CSS from scratch rather than reverse engineer this stuff for learning purposes.

THANKS !!

Robo


| Theme css files & what they are used for:
| graph0.css - Normal Graphics Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
| graph1.css - Active Graphics Selections / Changes to theme (from .elm file)
| color0.css - Normal Color Selections / Changes to theme (from ..elm file)
| color1.css - Active Color Selections / Changes to theme (from ..elm file)
| theme.css - Font Selections to theme
| custom.css - Created only if you modify a theme, collects Changes to above & any new styles
| themename1111.css - Created only if you Apply theme using css - combines All of above
|
| All of above are automatically changed by FP if you modify your theme (& when you Recalc Hyperlinks) so your All your edits to these
| css files will be lost (FP rereads the original theme .elm file).
|
| For granular editing of FP theme css files see
| http://sbrenjoy.bizland.com/frontpage/themes/newthemes.html
|
| --
|
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|
| Howdy,
|
| I'm bored today so I decided to screw up my FP themes.
|
| No, really, I'm experimenting with CSS sheets on a FP theme I don't use.
| The sheets are named Color0/Color1, Graph0/Graph1, Custom, Themes (all with .css exts of course.
|
| I believe the 0 & the 1 refer to standard colors as opposed to vivid colors?
|
| I understand the Color and the Graph names, but where does the Custom come into play? Is that created if I make an FP change?
|
| Same question for Theme.css.
|
| Also I can't seem to figure out which pages are using which sheets...should that be visible in page styles? The meta name shows me
| only the theme the page is supposed to be using.
|
| Sorry for newbieness on CSS...but that's why I'm trying to blow up this machine today!
|
| Robo
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: (e-mail address removed)
|
|
|

 

[Tom Miller]

too many books right now!...CSS, MySQL, Frontpage Upside Down, Access for
Numbskulls, ASP for Apses...my wife already thinks I'm nuts!



Mine is sure I am, but she still puts up with me....

<another GRIN>
Tom Miller, A+, CNA5.1

 

[Crash Gordon]

Mine looks at the titles of the books I so excitedly bring home...and says what the xxxx language are you learning this week?! She gets confused between French, Italian, CSS, PHP, Esperanto...etc.. !


|
| too many books right now!...CSS, MySQL, Frontpage Upside Down, Access for
| Numbskulls, ASP for Apses...my wife already thinks I'm nuts!
|
|
|
| Mine is sure I am, but she still puts up with me....
|
| <another GRIN>
| Tom Miller, A+, CNA5.1
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