FP2002 Theme CSS Question

C

Crash Gordon

Howdy All,

In Themes on the setup page, down on the bottom left there's a check box; Apply Using CSS - what exactly does this mean? What I mean is if I look at an existing web setup with a theme I see CSS sheets even if the box is not checked, this lead me to believe themes use CSS whether the box is checked or not? What am I missing?

ALSO... If there are several CSS sheets, how can you tell which sheet a particular page is using (I'm doing some forensic web repairs on a site I didn't design) ? It doesn't appear to show up in page styles...do I have to check each page's html for links? Lost on this one.

Thanks,

Rob
 
J

Jim Buyens

If you select Apply Using CSS, FrontPage will use a shared style sheet to
achieve the Theme effect.

If you clear Apply Using CSS, FrontPage uses <font> tags and other
deprecated elements wherever possible.

To determine which, if any, shared style sheets a particular page is using,
open that page, then choose Style Sheet Links from the Format menu.

However, if you're using a Theme, the Style Sheet Links command will be
dimmed. This is so you don't accidentally (or intentionally) override the
Theme appearance.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------

Howdy All,

In Themes on the setup page, down on the bottom left there's a check box;
Apply Using CSS - what exactly does this mean? What I mean is if I look at
an existing web setup with a theme I see CSS sheets even if the box is not
checked, this lead me to believe themes use CSS whether the box is checked
or not? What am I missing?

ALSO... If there are several CSS sheets, how can you tell which sheet a
particular page is using (I'm doing some forensic web repairs on a site I
didn't design) ? It doesn't appear to show up in page styles...do I have to
check each page's html for links? Lost on this one.

Thanks,

Rob
 
C

Crash Gordon

Thanks Jim,

So, if I want to make sure we are not using depreciated tags, I should CHECK Apply Using CSS. **Would this be a problem on pages already created?

I looked int Style Sheets Links and there isn't any listed for the page I checked, however there is a theme.css in _themes folder - this is why I get confused with these thangs.

What is the hierarchy of applied CSS? - sheet first, then what?

Thanks again,

Rob


| If you select Apply Using CSS, FrontPage will use a shared style sheet to
| achieve the Theme effect.
|
| If you clear Apply Using CSS, FrontPage uses <font> tags and other
| deprecated elements wherever possible.
|
| To determine which, if any, shared style sheets a particular page is using,
| open that page, then choose Style Sheet Links from the Format menu.
|
| However, if you're using a Theme, the Style Sheet Links command will be
| dimmed. This is so you don't accidentally (or intentionally) override the
| Theme appearance.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
| | Howdy All,
|
| In Themes on the setup page, down on the bottom left there's a check box;
| Apply Using CSS - what exactly does this mean? What I mean is if I look at
| an existing web setup with a theme I see CSS sheets even if the box is not
| checked, this lead me to believe themes use CSS whether the box is checked
| or not? What am I missing?
|
| ALSO... If there are several CSS sheets, how can you tell which sheet a
| particular page is using (I'm doing some forensic web repairs on a site I
| didn't design) ? It doesn't appear to show up in page styles...do I have to
| check each page's html for links? Lost on this one.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Rob
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: (e-mail address removed)
|
|
|
 
J

Jim Buyens

Thanks Jim,

So, if I want to make sure we are not using depreciated tags, I should CHECK
Apply Using CSS.

Yes.

**Would this be a problem on pages already created?

No.

I looked int Style Sheets Links and there isn't any listed for the page I
checked, however there is a theme.css in _themes folder - this is why I get
confused with these thangs.

Right. Theme stuff never show up as if you'd done the same thing by hand.

What is the hierarchy of applied CSS? - sheet first, then what?

Browser default, then linked style sheets (in order), then style sheets hard
coded into the page, then in-line styles (i.e. <p style="margin:0">.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------


| If you select Apply Using CSS, FrontPage will use a shared style sheet to
| achieve the Theme effect.
|
| If you clear Apply Using CSS, FrontPage uses <font> tags and other
| deprecated elements wherever possible.
|
| To determine which, if any, shared style sheets a particular page is
using,
| open that page, then choose Style Sheet Links from the Format menu.
|
| However, if you're using a Theme, the Style Sheet Links command will be
| dimmed. This is so you don't accidentally (or intentionally) override the
| Theme appearance.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
| | Howdy All,
|
| In Themes on the setup page, down on the bottom left there's a check box;
| Apply Using CSS - what exactly does this mean? What I mean is if I look at
| an existing web setup with a theme I see CSS sheets even if the box is not
| checked, this lead me to believe themes use CSS whether the box is checked
| or not? What am I missing?
|
| ALSO... If there are several CSS sheets, how can you tell which sheet a
| particular page is using (I'm doing some forensic web repairs on a site I
| didn't design) ? It doesn't appear to show up in page styles...do I have
to
| check each page's html for links? Lost on this one.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Rob
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: (e-mail address removed)
|
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Applying a theme with CSS will cause some display issues for NS4 users
visiting your web site.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Thanks Jim,

So, if I want to make sure we are not using depreciated tags, I should CHECK
Apply Using CSS. **Would this be a problem on pages already created?

I looked int Style Sheets Links and there isn't any listed for the page I
checked, however there is a theme.css in _themes folder - this is why I get
confused with these thangs.

What is the hierarchy of applied CSS? - sheet first, then what?

Thanks again,

Rob


| If you select Apply Using CSS, FrontPage will use a shared style sheet to
| achieve the Theme effect.
|
| If you clear Apply Using CSS, FrontPage uses <font> tags and other
| deprecated elements wherever possible.
|
| To determine which, if any, shared style sheets a particular page is
using,
| open that page, then choose Style Sheet Links from the Format menu.
|
| However, if you're using a Theme, the Style Sheet Links command will be
| dimmed. This is so you don't accidentally (or intentionally) override the
| Theme appearance.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
| | Howdy All,
|
| In Themes on the setup page, down on the bottom left there's a check box;
| Apply Using CSS - what exactly does this mean? What I mean is if I look at
| an existing web setup with a theme I see CSS sheets even if the box is not
| checked, this lead me to believe themes use CSS whether the box is checked
| or not? What am I missing?
|
| ALSO... If there are several CSS sheets, how can you tell which sheet a
| particular page is using (I'm doing some forensic web repairs on a site I
| didn't design) ? It doesn't appear to show up in page styles...do I have
to
| check each page's html for links? Lost on this one.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Rob
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: (e-mail address removed)
|
|
|
 

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