Crossover cable connection setup

G

Guest

I have a laptop running XP Media Center SP2 and a desktop running XP Home
SP2. I have tried using the wizards to setup a connection between the two so
I can transfer 10-15gb of information together. I bought a crossover cable
but have no clue as to the proper way to get the connection working.

In the wizard I can't use the Advanced Connection part since that does not
inclue crosssover cat5 cables. The network wizard leads to nowhere. Help me
please!
 
C

Chuck

I have a laptop running XP Media Center SP2 and a desktop running XP Home
SP2. I have tried using the wizards to setup a connection between the two so
I can transfer 10-15gb of information together. I bought a crossover cable
but have no clue as to the proper way to get the connection working.

In the wizard I can't use the Advanced Connection part since that does not
inclue crosssover cat5 cables. The network wizard leads to nowhere. Help me
please!

I'm guessing that neither has Internet service? If so, run the NSW on each
computer and select
This computer belongs to a network that does not have an Internet connection.

Or does both have Internet service, but separate from the Cat5 connections? If
so, select
This computer connects to the Internet directly or through a network hub. Other
computers on my network also connect to the Internet directly or through a hub.

Or, we could probably do this without the wizard. Let us know some details,
based upon my questions above.
 
C

Chuck

I have a laptop running XP Media Center SP2 and a desktop running XP Home
SP2. I have tried using the wizards to setup a connection between the two so
I can transfer 10-15gb of information together. I bought a crossover cable
but have no clue as to the proper way to get the connection working.

In the wizard I can't use the Advanced Connection part since that does not
inclue crosssover cat5 cables. The network wizard leads to nowhere. Help me
please!

I'm guessing that neither has Internet service? If so, run the NSW on each
computer and select
This computer belongs to a network that does not have an Internet connection.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NetworkNoInternet>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NetworkNoInternet

Or does both have Internet service, but separate from the Cat5 connections? If
so, select
This computer connects to the Internet directly or through a network hub. Other
computers on my network also connect to the Internet directly or through a hub.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect

Or, we could probably do this without the wizard. Let us know some details,
based upon my questions above.
 
G

Guest

GI'm still lost.

Both computers connect ot the internet directly, they do not and I do not
want them to share a connection. (I have dial up, makes it pointless to share
the internet). ALl I want is to be able to transfer this 15gb of data
through the crossover cable using the LAN jacks. The wizard just isn't
helping me. Also for whatever reason my desktop is missing drivers for all
the network pieces (under the GENERAL tab of PROPERTIES of the LAN), I don't
know how to get those over.

If you have a ...for dummies tutorial or a 101 guide would help
tremendously. I'm having no luck at getting the two computers to
communicate. Once I did have packets sent and received, only I don't know
how.

I also can't do a ground up restore of the systems, which if I read
correctly would make the connection itself, but that is not an option.
 
C

Chuck

GI'm still lost.

Both computers connect ot the internet directly, they do not and I do not
want them to share a connection. (I have dial up, makes it pointless to share
the internet). ALl I want is to be able to transfer this 15gb of data
through the crossover cable using the LAN jacks. The wizard just isn't
helping me. Also for whatever reason my desktop is missing drivers for all
the network pieces (under the GENERAL tab of PROPERTIES of the LAN), I don't
know how to get those over.

If you have a ...for dummies tutorial or a 101 guide would help
tremendously. I'm having no luck at getting the two computers to
communicate. Once I did have packets sent and received, only I don't know
how.

I also can't do a ground up restore of the systems, which if I read
correctly would make the connection itself, but that is not an option.

This makes a difference. And I can see how you would be confused.

You need to run the Network Setup wizard on each computer, and select
This computer connects to the Internet directly or through a network hub. Other
computers on my network also connect to the Internet directly or through a hub.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect

If you have 2 computers, each with their own Internet connection, they're going
to be on their own subnets from the Internet service. You should NOT use normal
TCP based file sharing between the two. You need to use IPX/SPX. My article,
and linked articles, should get you started.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html

If you're going to do this, PLEASE read the IPX/SPX article, and the linked
articles, and setup IPX/SPX safely and securely.

We don't have dummies guides. We provide what we can, directly. You need to
read the articles, ask questions, and be patient with us.

And please, when you reply, reply to my posts. That will make it easier for
both of us.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Replying>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Replying
 
K

Kyuzo

Using a crossover cable to connect to computers is really simple. I don't
believe you need to use a wizard of any to connect them both. Make sure that
both computers are on the same workgroup and are in the same IP address
range. For example, on computer one, you can set it up to have an IP address
of, say, 192.168.0.1 and on the other computer, 192.168.0.2. Both should
have a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. Both computers should also have a
unique computer name, which I'm sure is already done so.

Do a ping on one computer to check if the other computer reply back. If so,
all should be good.

Share the folder with the data. On the other computer, go to:
Start || Run || \\computername
(obviously, computername is the computer name of the computer sharing the
data.)

That should be it.
 
G

Guest

Alight, I can ping the laptops IP address from the laptop. This is the only
ping that works. The subnet mask comes up 'destination specified invalid.'
That's the laptop. My desktop times out pinging its own IP address.

Both computers say that the LAN is connected. Both are sending info,
neither is receiving. Why is this not working?
 
G

Guest

It seems that I'm missing drivers for Client for Microsoft netwroks, TCP/IP
and everything else on the list, on my desktop. How do I go about getting
those, or copying them off the other computer?
 
C

Chuck

It seems that I'm missing drivers for Client for Microsoft netwroks, TCP/IP
and everything else on the list, on my desktop. How do I go about getting
those, or copying them off the other computer?

Normally, you'd get the drivers needed by running the Network Setup Wizard. The
nature of the Internet connection, for each computer, is vitally relevant to the
wizard selection that you make. So tell us what Internet connections you have.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html

When you say "The wizard just isn't helping me.", what do you mean? Did you run
the wizard, and get an error? Or not run the wizard at all? Or run the wizard
and get no error? Give us some idea what's going on, so we can help you.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

And this will go easier if you will reply to my posts, instead of to yours.
That way, we can both keep up with what we've discussed so far.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Replying>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Replying
 
G

Guest

I've ran the wizard on both computers. My laptop has no problems and has all
the drivers. The desktop has none, I've picked the items to install and
every item comes up drivers missing. Both connect via dial up modem, except
my laptop I'm also using a wireless connection.

On the wizard I've picked "setup home or office network," "other," "this
computer connect directly to the internet, other computers on this network
connect directly to the internet." Turned on file and printer sharing.
I've set both wizards this way. I have the IP addresses set in the same
group. Same subnet mask.
 
C

Chuck

I've ran the wizard on both computers. My laptop has no problems and has all
the drivers. The desktop has none, I've picked the items to install and
every item comes up drivers missing. Both connect via dial up modem, except
my laptop I'm also using a wireless connection.

On the wizard I've picked "setup home or office network," "other," "this
computer connect directly to the internet, other computers on this network
connect directly to the internet." Turned on file and printer sharing.
I've set both wizards this way. I have the IP addresses set in the same
group. Same subnet mask.

OK, if both computers have their own dialup, you'll need to select
This computer connects to the Internet directly or through a network hub. Other
computers on my network also connect to the Internet directly or through a hub.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#MultiDirect

If you're going to do file sharing between two computers directly connected, USE
IPX/SPX for file sharing.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html
 

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