crossover cable blues

[tyler]

im trying to link my winXP laptop to my win2k desktop with
a crossover cable. no internet, just the two together.
all i want is to transfer files. i set both c drives to
sharing, both workgroups to HOME, the ips are
10.10.10.1and2, and the subnets are the same. when i plug
them in i get the LAN connection thing in the corner.
they can ping themselves fine, but they cant ping
eachother. my laptop has two network adapters, an intel
pro/100 network connection and a 1394 net adaptor. do i
need to bridge them? do i need no bridge? do i need to
disable one? which one's ip do i change? or what else
can i do? thanks.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

im trying to link my winXP laptop to my win2k desktop with
a crossover cable. no internet, just the two together.
all i want is to transfer files. i set both c drives to
sharing, both workgroups to HOME, the ips are
10.10.10.1and2, and the subnets are the same. when i plug
them in i get the LAN connection thing in the corner.
they can ping themselves fine, but they cant ping
eachother. my laptop has two network adapters, an intel
pro/100 network connection and a 1394 net adaptor. do i
need to bridge them? do i need no bridge? do i need to
disable one? which one's ip do i change? or what else
can i do? thanks.

No, don't bridge the connections. The 1394 connection is a "FireWire"
port, and it has no effect on an Ethernet network connection between
your computers, whether it's enabled or disabled.

Make sure that there isn't a firewall on either computer blocking
network access. In particular, you must disable XP's built-in
Internet Connection Firewall, as shown here:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm
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[no1]

im trying to link my winXP laptop to my win2k desktop with
a crossover cable. no internet, just the two together.
all i want is to transfer files. i set both c drives to
sharing, both workgroups to HOME, the ips are
10.10.10.1and2, and the subnets are the same. when i plug
them in i get the LAN connection thing in the corner.
they can ping themselves fine, but they cant ping
eachother. my laptop has two network adapters, an intel
pro/100 network connection and a 1394 net adaptor. do i
need to bridge them? do i need no bridge? do i need to
disable one? which one's ip do i change? or what else
can i do? thanks.

Besides what Steve said about firewalls, I can only urge you to keep
trying. I did it with a straight crossover cable between XP and 98SE.
And I made my own crossover cable, being too cheap to spend $15 for a
new one.

Here are some other tips which might help:

-NIC cards usually have LED's to indicate a good cable connection.
Mind you, it should indicate that in My Network
Places/Properties/Local Area Connection in XP. It will say something
to the effect that the cable isn't connected. You can double-click on
Local Area Connection and another window will open showing you more
information. I've found you can't always rely on the
'cable-disconnected' error though. So, manually check each end of the
crossover cable for the LED's being lit.

-are you sure you have a crossover cable? It has the transmit and
receive cable pairs crossed over. In a straight cable, these pairs run
one to one and the transmit and receive collide. If you have good
eyes, you can look at the colours of the pairs on each end if the
RJ-45 connector has clear plastic. Or you could measure with an
ohmmeter. I think it's the orange and green pairs that crossover. At
any rate, the pairs should not be pin to pin.

-in My Network Places/Properties 'right' click Local Area Connection
and highlight TCP/IP. Select Properties. On the first window, click
Advanced. Select the WINS tab and be sure NETBIOS over TCPIP is
enabled. This setting is normally on the first 'default' selection and
I think you have to change it to the middle selection.

-You might check the 10.10.10.01 or 02 IP address. It seems to me I
used a higher number like 68. I don't recall the exact number
unfortunately.