Cropping graphics to set sizes ?

J

John Fitzsimons

New freeware is constantly being created/changed so I am bringing up
this topic again in case things have changed recently.

Not very long ago a few graphics programs were mentioned here for
cropping. One cropped square images and another supposedly other
ratios such as 6" x 4". I couldn't get the second one to work for me
and I don't want only square pictures.

I do NOT want to re-size/crop the full image. Like many programs such
as JPEGCrops etc. do. I want to overlay a certain ratio outline such
as 6 x 4 or 7 x 5 and select only part of the image. Which may/may not
include any of the existing sides.

Apart from Picassa what other programs could I use please ?

Regards, John.
 
D

Derald

John Fitzsimons said:
I want to overlay a certain ratio outline such
as 6 x 4 or 7 x 5 and select only part of the image. Which may/may not
include any of the existing sides.
If I understand you correctly, then Irfanview does that. It is
possible to define custom selections from the Edit menu and from within
batch-processing, although, the absence of auto-alignment tools limits
the usefulness of the latter. However, "Create custom selection" from
the Edit menu offers considerable flexibility: It allows one to define
and position custom selections easily but there are no alignment tools.
Selection co-ordinates and pixel count are displayed in title bar,
though, and a selection may be resized manually while retaining aspect
ratio. Selection settings are sticky so it is a simple-enough matter to
crop individual same-size selections from a sequence of images.
 
T

Toke Eskildsen

John Fitzsimons said:
I do NOT want to re-size/crop the full image. Like many programs
such as JPEGCrops etc. do. I want to overlay a certain ratio
outline such as 6 x 4 or 7 x 5 and select only part of the image.
Which may/may not include any of the existing sides.

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for. Do you want to extend
your selection past the image boundaries, so that you can add a border?
Apart from Picassa what other programs could I use please ?

What is the name of the function in Picasa?
 
J

John Fitzsimons

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking for. Do you want to extend
your selection past the image boundaries, so that you can add a border?

No, I want to crop part of a picture to a set ratio, such as 6 x 4 or
7 x 5.
What is the name of the function in Picasa?

Basic fixes - Crop picture.

Regards, John.
 
R

RoseW

Re: I want to overlay a certain ratio outline such as 6 x 4 or 7 x 5 and
select only part of the image.
|| Which may/may not include any of the existing sides.

Irfanview has a crop edit tool- with customized selections as well as
freehand-drag mouse and create an outline

RoseW
 
K

Kristanza

New freeware is constantly being created/changed so I am bringing up
this topic again in case things have changed recently.

Not very long ago a few graphics programs were mentioned here for
cropping. One cropped square images and another supposedly other
ratios such as 6" x 4". I couldn't get the second one to work for me
and I don't want only square pictures.

I do NOT want to re-size/crop the full image. Like many programs such
as JPEGCrops etc. do. I want to overlay a certain ratio outline such
as 6 x 4 or 7 x 5 and select only part of the image. Which may/may not
include any of the existing sides.

Apart from Picassa what other programs could I use please ?

Regards, John.

JPEG Crops
http://ekot.dk/programmer/JPEGCrops/
works like a dream.

regards

Kristanza
 
T

Toke Eskildsen

John Fitzsimons said:
No, I want to crop part of a picture to a set ratio, such as 6 x 4
or 7 x 5.

I have come across a few programs that only allows the croparea to be
moved, and not resized. DigiCropper and PixumUp (at least an early
version) is among them. JPEGCrops is not. Maybe you missed that the
croparea can be resized?

Toke:
Basic fixes - Crop picture.

Looks like a basic crop to me (pun intended).
 
J

John Fitzsimons

If I understand you correctly, then Irfanview does that. It is
possible to define custom selections from the Edit menu

< snip >

Thanks, I hadn't worked out how to do that. I don't find the method of
selecting/moving the selection overly intuitive but I suppose it will
be easy once I get used to it.

I know IV is good but it appears NOT to have an easy way to re-open
the last opened graphic. Like many other graphics programs do. This is
a MAJOR turn off for me. I not only want to re-open the most recently
used folder but also the most recently opened graphic. :-(

I once asked the author to consider a "reopen" menu option but he
wasn't interested. Very disappointing.

Regards, John.
 
J

John Fitzsimons

I have come across a few programs that only allows the croparea to be
moved, and not resized. DigiCropper and PixumUp (at least an early
version) is among them. JPEGCrops is not. Maybe you missed that the
croparea can be resized?

< snip >

Well, what I missed was that I had an old copy that needed updating.
The current release looks much better. :)

What I don't like however is that there doesn't appear to be a "view"
for ensuring that the original graphic fills the display area.

Selecting "Huge" for tiny originals then selecting "Small" for large
ones is NOT my idea of fun. That should be able to be done
automatically.

Regards, John.
 
T

Toke Eskildsen

John Fitzsimons said:
Well, what I missed was that I had an old copy that needed
updating.

Well, it has been possible to change the size of the croparea since
february 2003, but you're not the first to complain about the resizing
option being non-obvoius. Something better is clearly needed.
What I don't like however is that there doesn't appear to be a
"view" for ensuring that the original graphic fills the display
area.

You're essentially proposing a viewmode that just displays a single
image at a time. Depending on workflow and need for precision cropping,
that's very resonable.
Selecting "Huge" for tiny originals then selecting "Small" for
large ones is NOT my idea of fun. That should be able to be done
automatically.

There's no difference between tiny or large pictures there: Tiny images
are scaled up, large ones are scaled down. They will be shown at the
same size on the screen, so there's no need to toggle between
displaymodes.

Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying?
 
E

Eric

Do you want to see what the new file will look like?

Double-click inside the crop-area and it will create a temp copy of the
final output and open your default editor.

This way, you can use the smaller preview but confirm your cuts before
you actually do them.

(thanks for the great program, Toke!)
 
J

John Fitzsimons

XnView
http://www.xnview.com/
Edit=>Set Selection Size
or
Edit=>Set Selection Ratio

Thanks Coma. I sure wish there was a way to set the selection size to
6" x 4" or 7" x 5". I can never remember metric sizes. Too many years
as an "inches" photographer. :-(

It also looks like one cannot make a size different than the ones
listed. :-(

Also, with my copy settings don't remain "sticky". I change the "view"
to "Fit image to window" and it de-selects when I re-open at a later
time. :-(

BUT it appears to open NEF files fine AND save them to other formats
than jpeg. Even my Nikon Picture Project software only appears to save
to .jpeg . Or is there a way to do that ?

I have wanted to save .NEF RAW files to a lossless format for ages.
Now, thanks to you, it appears that I can. Many thanks. A very great
help. :)

Now, does anyone here know where I can find a list of "lossless"
graphics formats please, and/or list them, please ?

Also, I assume that this program is the only one that will open
up/save Nikon RAW files (as a lossless format). Am I right ? Or
does anyone know of any others please ?

Regards, John.
 

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