Creating system recovery disc

[Guest]

When I bought my computer I did not receive a system
recovery package. I would like to create my own, but I
cannot find out what steps to take to create them right.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Contact your PC manufacturer and request a Recovery CD.
You cannot make one.

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| When I bought my computer I did not receive a system
| recovery package. I would like to create my own, but I
| cannot find out what steps to take to create them right.

 

[dglock]

you can make a system recovery cd with an imageing program
such as ghost or acronis or drive image.
don

 

[wojo]

When I bought my computer I did not receive a system
recovery package. I would like to create my own, but I
cannot find out what steps to take to create them right.

Carey is right, contact the manufacturer. They are required to either give
you a recovery CD, if they aren't HP or others that include the info on a
hidden partition, or sell you one, like HP does.

But if your system is an HP then Carey is only partially right. HP's with CD
burners include a utility that is designed to create the recovery CD for
you.

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[kurttrail]

you can make a system recovery cd with an imageing program
such as ghost or acronis or drive image.
don

LOL! Some MVP Carey is, when he can't figure out that all system recovery
CDs are, is a disk image!

Carey should just stick to his copy & paste answers, because as soon as he
uses his own words, he make little or no sense!

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[Michael Stevens]

LOL! Some MVP Carey is, when he can't figure out that all system recovery
CDs are, is a disk image!

Carey should just stick to his copy & paste answers, because as soon as he
uses his own words, he make little or no sense!

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There was nothing wrong with Carey's advice. You cannot make an image
recovery disk without purchasing additional imaging software. The OEM should
have included a FREE system recovery. Either on the hard drive or disk
media. Contacting the OEM is the first thing the OP should do.
Did you invest in imaging software and want to increase your investment? LOL
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[Kelly]

Yall guys are amusing....I never see these posts until MS replies! Why is
that?

 

[kurttrail]

There was nothing wrong with Carey's advice.

"You cannot make one." It is a false statement, and if it's not out of
ignorance, then it is a lie.

You cannot make an image
recovery disk without purchasing additional imaging software.

Unfortunately, Carey wasn't bright enough to qualify his statement. As
stated by Carey, it is a totally false statement. Even your statement would
be false for certain models of HP computers, as wojo pointed out earlier,
and all the OP would have to purchase then is some blank CDs.

The OEM
should have included a FREE system recovery.
Either on the hard drive or disk media.
Contacting the OEM is the first thing the OP should do.

I didn't say that the OP shouldn't. I seem to remember that I wasn't
reponding to what Carey said about contacting the OEM, but to dglock
pointing out that the OP actually could create his own recovery disks,
despite Carey's eroneous statement to the contrary.

Did you invest in imaging software and want to increase your
investment? LOL

Did I mention any particular imaging product? Nope. So the only thing that
is funny is you thinking I'm trying to increase my investment in a product I
don't even bother to mention.

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[Michael Stevens]

Yall guys are amusing....I never see these posts until MS replies! Why is
that?

Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like it when
good information is ragged on, especially when it comes from the likes of
kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks for anything to attack his
credibility.
Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate information in
these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego driven grey area unproven
and opionated web page.
LOL
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[Michael Stevens]

"You cannot make one." It is a false statement, and if it's not out of
ignorance, then it is a lie.

The OP's message:

When I bought my computer I did not receive a system
recovery package. I would like to create my own, but I
cannot find out what steps to take to create them right.

Carey's reply:
Contact your PC manufacturer and request a Recovery CD.
You cannot make one.

Where is the ignorance or the lie?

Unfortunately, Carey wasn't bright enough to qualify his statement. As
stated by Carey, it is a totally false statement. Even your statement
would
be false for certain models of HP computers, as wojo pointed out earlier,
and all the OP would have to purchase then is some blank CDs.

My statement would not be false at all for any "certain models of HP
computers", as I stated the recovery should be ON THE HARD DRIVE, or disk
media. Carey is not required to hold anyone's hand and guide them through
all the different paths available to cover all options available. His advice
to contact the OEM was the best advice to OP and anything else was gravy.
His contact with the OEM would have informed him of the option to use the
information on the hard to create the recovery media.

I didn't say that the OP shouldn't. I seem to remember that I wasn't
reponding to what Carey said about contacting the OEM, but to dglock
pointing out that the OP actually could create his own recovery disks,
despite Carey's eroneous statement to the contrary.

You were ragging on Carey unjustly 2 hours after, dglock was only adding
useful information 2 hours after Carey's original post. If his information
was so bad, why were you the only one to dish it?

Did I mention any particular imaging product? Nope. So the only thing
that
is funny is you thinking I'm trying to increase my investment in a product
I
don't even bother to mention.

The only thing funny to me is you were offended by my obvious joke. Didn't
you notice the LOL? LOL

 

[kurttrail]

Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like it
when good information is ragged on, especially when it comes from the
likes of kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks for anything
to attack his credibility.
Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate
information in these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego
driven grey area unproven and opionated web page.
LOL

Only you could try to find a way to say that "You cannot make one," is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would be just
about every encounter we've ever had.]

Keep laughing at yourself, because I'm laughing at you too!

The Supreme Court said, "Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for
a 'fair use'; the copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to
such a use."

When you can find a legal precedent that supersedes the Supreme Court,
allowing a copyright owner to gain possession of an individual's "fair use"
reproduction of a copyrighted work though a contract of adhesion, then I'll
shut up, until then it is MS's supposition, that they can gain possession,
through a post-purchase "shrink-wrap license," the exclusive right to an
individual's "fair use" of their copy of copyrighted material, that is that
is biased and unproven. Why? Because if MS disputes that installing a copy
of software on more than one computer isn't a "fair use" the only way for
them to legally prove it would be to sue some individual for copyright
infringement, and convince a judge to agree with them. Which MS hasn't
done, since they sold the first copy of DOS to a private non-commercial
individual.

I have the Supreme Court and Copyright laws on my side, MS only has it's own
words, and those of the colluding member of the BSA, for proof. I have
never even been charged in any Federal Court. MS is a multiple loser in
Federal Court.

If it's a matter of credibility, I use the words of the Supreme Court, while
MS, a habitual corporate wrong-doer, uses it own obviously biased and
self-serving words.

I, like any rational human being, would believe the Supreme Court that "Any
individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a 'fair use'; the copyright
owner [MS] does not possess the exclusive right to such a use," over MS's
unproven licensing claims to the contrary. And like IBM with SCO's unproven
licensing claims, I'll wait for MS to prove their legally unsubstantiated
licensing claims in a real court of law, before I believe that they have a
right to use a contract of adhesion to strip me of my "fair use" rights as
an individual.

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[Michael Stevens]

Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like it
when good information is ragged on, especially when it comes from the
likes of kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks for anything
to attack his credibility.
Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate
information in these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego
driven grey area unproven and opionated web page.
LOL

Only you could try to find a way to say that "You cannot make one," is
good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would be
just
about every encounter we've ever had.]

Keep laughing at yourself, because I'm laughing at you too!

I didn't see anyone else condemning his information, and you can't make a
recovery CD set without information from the OEM or third party imaging
software. Yes I can and I do, it must be sad to think you are always right
when it is so obvious you have blinders on.
I am not wrong, and you cannot prove you are right on anything you stated in
the snipped part of your reply. You cite rulings that are as vacant in
validity as what you accuse MS. There is no law, ruling, etc. that a court
has declared enforceable or unenforceable. I would call the whole mess a
grey area that will eventually be defined.

 

[kurttrail]

The OP's message:

When I bought my computer I did not receive a system
recovery package. I would like to create my own, but I
cannot find out what steps to take to create them right.

Carey's reply:
Contact your PC manufacturer and request a Recovery CD.
You cannot make one.

Where is the ignorance or the lie?

What does "one" mean as Carey uses it in "You cannot make one"? Obviously,
a "Recovery CD." What is a Recovery CD? A disk image. So therefore, "You
cannot make one" is false, unless you know of some reason that the OP cannot
make a disk image CD under any circumstances.

My statement would not be false at all for any "certain models of HP
computers", as I stated the recovery should be ON THE HARD DRIVE, or
disk media.

"You cannot make an image recovery disk without purchasing additional
imaging software."

"without purchasing additional imaging software." With the HP's, the
software comes with the computer to burn your own Recovery CDs from the
recovery image stored on the hard drive, so therefore no purchase of
"additional imaging software" would be necccessary. Therefore you could
"make an image recovery disk without purchasing additional imaging
software," making your statement false when it comes to those HP systems.

Carey is not required to hold anyone's hand and guide
them through all the different paths available to cover all options
available.

Did I say he was? But his statement to the OP would only be true if the OP
is a totally destitute quadrapelegic, which obviously isn't the case if he
owns his own computer. "You cannot make one."

His advice to contact the OEM was the best advice to OP
and anything else was gravy. His contact with the OEM would have
informed him of the option to use the information on the hard to
create the recovery media.

Again, I never said anything about his advise about contacting the OEM, did
I?

Did I?

I was just agreeing with somebody else that pointed out that Carey telling
the OP that "You cannot make one" was in error.

You were ragging on Carey unjustly 2 hours after, dglock was only
adding useful information 2 hours after Carey's original post. If his
information was so bad, why were you the only one to dish it?

dglock directly contradicted Carey by saying, "_*you*_ _*can*_ _*make*_ a
system recovery cd with an imageing program such as ghost or acronis or
drive image."

Carey - "You cannot make one"


I agreed, and added my own personal observations about Carey over the years.
He is a lot better at cutting and pasting the words of others, than using
his own off the top of his pointed little head.

The only thing funny to me is you were offended by my obvious joke.
Didn't you notice the LOL? LOL

You mean, the mental patient's laugh at one's own lunacy? Mike, I wasn't
offended, I just pointed out that your joke made no sense.

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[kurttrail]

Yall guys are amusing....I never see these posts until MS replies!
Why is that?




Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like it
when good information is ragged on, especially when it comes from
the likes of kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks for
anything to attack his credibility.
Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate
information in these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego
driven grey area unproven and opionated web page.
LOL

Only you could try to find a way to say that "You cannot make one,"
is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would
be just
about every encounter we've ever had.]

Keep laughing at yourself, because I'm laughing at you too!

I didn't see anyone else condemning his information, and you can't
make a recovery CD set without information from the OEM or third
party imaging software.

LOL! You totally ignore the fact that I was replying to someone who
directly contradicted Carey's errorneous statement. You are delusional,
Mike.

Yes I can and I do, it must be sad to think
you are always right when it is so obvious you have blinders on.

LOL! I never claimed to be "always right." I said, "Only you could try to
find a way to say that "You cannot make one," is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would be just
about every encounter we've ever had.]"

See I'm careful with my words. I don't claim things in terms of absolutes.

I am not wrong, and you cannot prove you are right on anything you
stated in the snipped part of your reply.

That's why you didn't even to to rebutt my words, and just snipped them?

You cite rulings that are
as vacant in validity as what you accuse MS.

The Supreme Court saying that the Copyright Owner doesn't possess the
exlusive right to a n individuals "fair use" is "vacant in validity."
Totally delusional.

There is no law, ruling,
etc. that a court has declared enforceable or unenforceable. I would
call the whole mess a grey area that will eventually be defined.

LOL! When will MS and the rest of the BSA colluders get balls to do it?

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[Shane]

The only thing funny to me is you were offended by my obvious joke. Didn't

you notice the LOL? LOL

You don't get humour, do you.

Is seeing nothing wrong with 'you cannot make one' supposed to be comedy
too?



Shane

 

[wojo]

Are there many people that DON'T have kurttrail blocked?
hmmm, if so I'm shocked, I quit wasting my time reading and replying to him
quite a while ago.

 

[kurttrail]

Are there many people that DON'T have kurttrail blocked?
hmmm, if so I'm shocked, I quit wasting my time reading and replying
to him quite a while ago.

I just love morons that have to block other people's posts.
Chickensh*ts that have to hide from mere words!

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[Kelly]

Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like it when

good information is ragged on, especially when it comes from the likes of
kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks for anything to attack his
credibility.

Nope! As I stated, yall two guys amuse me. I learn something from these
threads each and every time, yall go at it. Do you think I have ever sat
down and read the EULA? Nope, again. )

What I meant is that, I never see these threads coming until you post to one
of them. Hmm, what does that say? Do yall both have vendetta's maybe? <w>

As for blocking folks, I was tempted 'once' back in my Win98 days. Can't
say who it was, because that person is here now!!!

Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate information
in these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego driven grey area
unproven and opionated web page.
LOL

Carey's kewl and I have to say, from all the hype he has taken in these
groups, he never gave up. That in itself, is enough for me. Right, wrong
or indifferent, I admire that. Same goes for Kurt.

As for websites, we all have one. Or is that opinions .... Hmm, that
sounds like food for thought?

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All the Best,
Kelly

 

[Michael Stevens]

Michael Stevens wrote:

Yall guys are amusing....I never see these posts until MS replies!
Why is that?




Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like it
when good information is ragged on, especially when it comes from
the likes of kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks for
anything to attack his credibility.
Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate
information in these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego
driven grey area unproven and opionated web page.
LOL

Only you could try to find a way to say that "You cannot make one,"
is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would
be just
about every encounter we've ever had.]

Keep laughing at yourself, because I'm laughing at you too!

I didn't see anyone else condemning his information, and you can't
make a recovery CD set without information from the OEM or third
party imaging software.

LOL! You totally ignore the fact that I was replying to someone who
directly contradicted Carey's errorneous statement. You are delusional,
Mike.

You are the one totally delusional, the reply was not a contradition, but an
addition to the original reply. What is wrong with you? Your ego is totally
out of control.
Since the OP did not state what OEM and very little other information about
their system, detailed support information was pretty much impossible to
give. How could he have posted an intended LIE and why would he or anyone
else do so?

Yes I can and I do, it must be sad to think
you are always right when it is so obvious you have blinders on.

LOL! I never claimed to be "always right." I said, "Only you could try to
find a way to say that "You cannot make one," is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would be just
about every encounter we've ever had.]"

See I'm careful with my words. I don't claim things in terms of

absolutes.

You are careful, but not always right. You don't have to post the exact
words to see your agenda and you just aluded you must mask the agenda
carefully with your words.
You can't prove anything you profoundly espouse as your opinion about the
valadity of MS licenseing. You can only cite confusing rulings that have not
been defined in a court of law.

That's why you didn't even to to rebutt my words, and just snipped them?


The Supreme Court saying that the Copyright Owner doesn't possess the
exlusive right to a n individuals "fair use" is "vacant in validity."
Totally delusional.


LOL! When will MS and the rest of the BSA colluders get balls to do it?

When will you get the balls to tap into that windfall? I see a billionaire
settlement on your horizon according to your accusations. You seem to be so
sure of yourself, what is the problem?

 

[kurttrail]

message Michael Stevens wrote:

Yall guys are amusing....I never see these posts until MS
replies! Why is that?




Don't Know Kelly, do you have kurttrail blocked? LOL I don't like
it when good information is ragged on, especially when it comes
from the likes of kurt. He has a vendetta out for Carey and looks
for anything to attack his credibility.
Carey has probably helped out more users with real legitimate
information in these newsgroups than kurt has steered to his ego
driven grey area unproven and opionated web page.
LOL

Only you could try to find a way to say that "You cannot make one,"
is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would
be just
about every encounter we've ever had.]

Keep laughing at yourself, because I'm laughing at you too!

I didn't see anyone else condemning his information, and you can't
make a recovery CD set without information from the OEM or third
party imaging software.

LOL! You totally ignore the fact that I was replying to someone who
directly contradicted Carey's errorneous statement. You are
delusional, Mike.

You are the one totally delusional, the reply was not a contradition,
but an addition to the original reply. What is wrong with you? Your
ego is totally out of control.
Since the OP did not state what OEM and very little other information
about their system, detailed support information was pretty much
impossible to give. How could he have posted an intended LIE and why
would he or anyone else do so?

Whatever Mike. You are totally wacked in the head over this, so there is no
sense in arguing with you.

Yes I can and I do, it must be sad to think
you are always right when it is so obvious you have blinders on.

LOL! I never claimed to be "always right." I said, "Only you could
try to find a way to say that "You cannot make one," is good
information, as you just can't stand it when I right. [Which would
be just about every encounter we've ever had.]"

See I'm careful with my words. I don't claim things in terms of
absolutes.

You are careful, but not always right. You don't have to post the
exact words to see your agenda and you just aluded you must mask the
agenda carefully with your words.
You can't prove anything you profoundly espouse as your opinion about
the valadity of MS licenseing. You can only cite confusing rulings
that have not been defined in a court of law.

THE SUPREME COURT:

"Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a "fair use"; the
copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use."

The only confusion is that MS, the BSA colluders, and morons like you think
that a Copyright Owner can regain an individuals right to "fair use" through
a post-purchase "shrink-wrap license," despite the FACT that their is not
one legal precedent to prove it! Just because you've been born-again into
the faith in the greedy unproven machinations of the corporate software
elite, EVERY individual in the US has the right to "fairly use" their
software, and there is nothing illegal or immoral about it!

When will you get the balls to tap into that windfall? I see a
billionaire settlement on your horizon according to your accusations.
You seem to be so sure of yourself, what is the problem?

I don't have to sue to prove I'm right. I already fairly use my copies of
copyrighted material in accordance to the words of the Supreme Court. If MS
and the rest of the BSA colluders want to stop me, they'll have to sue me,
and win, to stop me.

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