Counterfeit Epson Cartridges

[frederick]

Anyone using an Epson printer should view the following thread:

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/BB/viewtopic.php?t=809

Counterfeit inks destroying a (printhead on an) Epson R1800.

Note that these are counterfeit cartridges - not "aftermarket"
cartridges. The buyer purchased them from a "reputable retailer" in
Europe - not a dodgy on-line discounter.

Images of the cartridges are available at the above link. They are
identifiable as fakes - if you know what to look for - in this case:
"Made in China" label.
Subtle differences in carton colour.
Subtle differences in plastic moulding and electrical contacts.
Plastic sticker over ink ports missing.

They are however packaged in very original looking plastic vacuum packs,
and are "close enough" to not raise suspicions. These caused an initial
colour shift in prints (a magenta cast), followed by an irrecoverable
head blockage.
Beware.

 

[Taliesyn]

Anyone using an Epson printer should view the following thread:

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/BB/viewtopic.php?t=809

Counterfeit inks destroying a (printhead on an) Epson R1800.

Note that these are counterfeit cartridges - not "aftermarket"
cartridges. The buyer purchased them from a "reputable retailer" in
Europe - not a dodgy on-line discounter.

That's why I stay away from Canon OEM and the potentially counterfeit
(and potentially bad) cartridges out there and buy only genuine quality
aftermarket ones.

-Taliesyn

 

[Davy]

Genuine Canon cartridges has reflective heliographic sticker's on the
box.

To date I have always ensured I purchase from a reputable company and
not from 'El cheapo' suppliers and computer fair venders.

I've stuck with Canon inks because the printer has not clogged even
once in over three months every print being 100%, apart from 'user
cock-ups', never once needed a manual nozzle clean to date.

Besides Canon printers uses ink and not waste it like the Epson I had
which made people buy cheap inks because of the waste and expense, a
good printer that's economical with the inks deserves the best ink.

I think there's been counterfit Epson tanks out a while now, it's easy
to see why if you take the price into consideration.

Davy

 

[SLLD]

I have been using printpal.com with my epsons for several years and have had
no
problem..
It is a reasonable ink at a reasonable price.
Epson is the best over-all in quality
and a good Cheap ink makes it better.
Yes I know you have your favorites and I say go ahead and use it.
But for me, ---- Yes my teeth still continue to fall out ...
(Some would have you to believe this is caused by cheep ink carts))
SLLD

 

[Taliesyn]

Genuine Canon cartridges has reflective heliographic sticker's on the
box.

To date I have always ensured I purchase from a reputable company and
not from 'El cheapo' suppliers and computer fair venders.

I've stuck with Canon inks because the printer has not clogged even
once in over three months every print being 100%, apart from 'user
cock-ups', never once needed a manual nozzle clean to date.

Besides Canon printers uses ink and not waste it like the Epson I had
which made people buy cheap inks because of the waste and expense, a
good printer that's economical with the inks deserves the best ink.

I think there's been counterfit Epson tanks out a while now, it's easy
to see why if you take the price into consideration.

Davy

I forgot the satirical "smiley" figure on my original reply in this
thread, so you'll have to read back.

Apparently there have been Canon counterfeits as well according to
what I've read recently. It's always the well known brands that get
attacked. How many emails a day do we get for replica Rolexes? Microsoft
products constantly gets hit by viruses (that's why I prefer Netscape).
The lesser brands are sometimes safer alternatives in this day and age.

I use a combination bulk BCI-3e black and prefilled (Formulabs) BCI-6
cartridges in my iP5000 (since January), and all bulk in my i980 since
2004 and have had no ink problems, so I have no fear of using compat-
ibles and bulk inks. Clogging is a total non issue, invented by the much
bored (boring?) Measekite. I did have a print head that failed on the
i860 after about a month of use. The replacement has been working
perfectly for almost 9 months so I know it wasn't due to the bulk inks I
was using and still use today. It was just a bum OEM Canon printhead.

-Taliesyn

 

[Elmer Spudd]

Anyone using an Epson printer should view the following thread:

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/BB/viewtopic.php?t=809

Counterfeit inks destroying a (printhead on an) Epson R1800.

Note that these are counterfeit cartridges - not "aftermarket"
cartridges. The buyer purchased them from a "reputable retailer" in
Europe - not a dodgy on-line discounter.

<snip>

A very good reason for buying compatibles, which I have always done and I am
still waiting for a printer to explode / melt / vaporize / clogg to death /
whatever.

 

[Frank]

Genuine Canon cartridges has reflective heliographic sticker's on the
box.

To date I have always ensured I purchase from a reputable company and
not from 'El cheapo' suppliers and computer fair venders.

I've stuck with Canon inks because the printer has not clogged even
once in over three months every print being 100%, apart from 'user
cock-ups', never once needed a manual nozzle clean to date.

Besides Canon printers uses ink and not waste it like the Epson I had
which made people buy cheap inks because of the waste and expense, a
good printer that's economical with the inks deserves the best ink.

I think there's been counterfit Epson tanks out a while now, it's easy
to see why if you take the price into consideration.

Davy

Three months, no clogs..oem...WOW! I'm impressed (not!).
Try 10 yrs after market only NO CLOGS.
Now I'm impressed.
Frank

 

[measekite]

YOU ARE A TEENAGER. DO YOU HAVE A SHAVED HEAD. DO YOU PLAY WITH
YOURSELF THINKING ABOUT GETTING LAID.

 

[measekite]

Genuine Canon cartridges has reflective heliographic sticker's on the
box.

To date I have always ensured I purchase from a reputable company and
not from 'El cheapo' suppliers and computer fair venders.

*I've stuck with Canon inks because the printer has not clogged even
once in over three months every print being 100%, apart from 'user
cock-ups', never once needed a manual nozzle clean to date.*


*TERRIFIC*

*Besides Canon printers uses ink and not waste it like the Epson I had
which made people buy cheap inks because of the waste and expense, a
good printer that's economical with the inks deserves the best ink.*

I think there's been counterfit Epson tanks out a while now, it's easy
to see why if you take the price into consideration.

Davy

 

[measekite]

I have been using printpal.com with my epsons for several years and have had
many
problems..
It is a unreasonable ink at a reasonable price.
Epson is not the best over-all in quality
and a good Cheap ink makes it worse.
Yes I know you have your favorites and I say go ahead and use it.
But for me, ---- Yes my teeth still continue to fall out ...
(Some would have you to believe this is caused by cheep ink carts))
SLLD

I SEE SOME OF YOUR POINT

 

[measekite]

JUST CAUSE YOU HEAD COMES TO A POINT
DON'T THINK YOUR SHARP

 

[measekite]

<snip>

A very good reason for buying compatibles, which I have always done and I am
still waiting for a printer to explode / melt / vaporize / clogg to death /
whatever.

THAT LOGIC IS SO STUPID. YOU JUST GOOTA BE A JERK

 

[measekite]

Three months, no clogs..oem...WOW! I'm impressed (not!).
Try 10 yrs after market only MANY CLOGS.
Now I'm impressed.
Frank

 

[zakezuke]

A very good reason for buying compatibles, which I have always done and I am

that logic is so stupid

Not at all. You see when you can't depend on the label of the
cartridge to provide you with a quality product your only resolution is
to pick a vender who you know gives you a quality product. This could
mean costco, or it could be known good cartridges and bulk ink, or
known good prefills.

I believe that the issue this person experenced in the first place is
probally a lame cartridge which didn't provide enough in the way of
airflow resulting in no printing, rather than a clog, and the lack of
ink resulted in head failure. Bad mojo. Tends to happen with the
complex design of spongeless cartridges.

 

[frederick]

Genuine Canon cartridges has reflective heliographic sticker's on the
box.

So do genuine Epson cartridges.
These came in boxes with fake "Genuine" stickers...

 

[Elmer Spudd]

THAT LOGIC IS SO STUPID. YOU JUST GOOTA BE A JERK

So, I am a jerk with no problem with cheap cartridges.
I don't mind.
Question: are you some Nigerian crook? Clue the illiterate upper case outburst.

 

[Frank]

So, I am a jerk with no problem with cheap cartridges.
I don't mind.
Question: are you some Nigerian crook? Clue the illiterate upper case outburst.

He's a brain dead moron. Pay no attention to the jerk, he's nothing but
a loser.
Frank

 

[measekite]

Frank He's a brain dead moron. Pay no attention to the jerk, he's
nothing but a loser.

 

[frederick]

Not at all. You see when you can't depend on the label of the
cartridge to provide you with a quality product your only resolution is
to pick a vender who you know gives you a quality product. This could
mean costco, or it could be known good cartridges and bulk ink, or
known good prefills.

I believe that the issue this person experenced in the first place is
probally a lame cartridge which didn't provide enough in the way of
airflow resulting in no printing, rather than a clog, and the lack of
ink resulted in head failure. Bad mojo. Tends to happen with the
complex design of spongeless cartridges.

Except the head failure was on an Epson printer - not one with a thermal
printhead. I suspect that the cartridges are full of crap ink.

 

[zakezuke]

Except the head failure was on an Epson printer - not one with a thermal

printhead. I suspect that the cartridges are full of crap ink.

Epson claims running the ink on empty would cause a printhead to fail.
I'm sure running a cartridge that is basicly acting like a sealed
unit.... from what i've observed, creates a huge vacuum inside the
cartridge till such time that the ink no longer flows out. While I
don't discount the idea that the ink could be filled with crap... i'd
lean tward printing creating a vacuum which in turn causes the
micropiezos to work harder and either fail or warm to the point that
the ink turns to goo.