Constant re-setting of modem and router

M

Mattrixx

My daughter has Comcast BroadBand Internet and (I think a Motorola) modem
along with a Netgear Router connected to 1 desktop and 1 wireless connection
to a laptop.

We initially had a problem with a connection to the Internet using her
Netgear Router, (modem direct to desktop worked just fine) however after
calling Netgear (India) we managed to get her setup so that each Computer
could access the Internet at will and independently via the router (or so I
thought).

Now, my daughter informs me she has to physically re-set both the modem
*and* router each day, and sometimes even while online she will get the same
info box informing her she is "No Longer Connected" and again has to reset
everything!

Is this (constant re-setting of hardware) problem caused by an improper
router setting, or is this an issue I must take up with Comcast?

Thanks for any insight into this matter

Matt
 
N

Noozer

Mattrixx said:
My daughter has Comcast BroadBand Internet and (I think a Motorola) modem
along with a Netgear Router connected to 1 desktop and 1 wireless
connection
to a laptop.

We initially had a problem with a connection to the Internet using her
Netgear Router, (modem direct to desktop worked just fine) however after
calling Netgear (India) we managed to get her setup so that each Computer
could access the Internet at will and independently via the router (or so
I
thought).

Now, my daughter informs me she has to physically re-set both the modem
*and* router each day, and sometimes even while online she will get the
same
info box informing her she is "No Longer Connected" and again has to reset
everything!

Is this (constant re-setting of hardware) problem caused by an improper
router setting, or is this an issue I must take up with Comcast?

This is a broken router... Does it still fail with the router out of the
picture?
 
M

Mattrixx

Noozer said:
This is a broken router... Does it still fail with the router out of the
picture?
As far as I know ...her Internet connection is just fine when connected
direct from modem to desktop. The thing is, we set up the router with help
from Netgear support,
and as such assume it is properly configured?

Thanks for your responce and interest in this matter.

Matt
 
K

kony

My daughter has Comcast BroadBand Internet and (I think a Motorola) modem
along with a Netgear Router connected to 1 desktop and 1 wireless connection
to a laptop.

We initially had a problem with a connection to the Internet using her
Netgear Router, (modem direct to desktop worked just fine) however after
calling Netgear (India) we managed to get her setup so that each Computer
could access the Internet at will and independently via the router (or so I
thought).

What did they have her do? Hopefully not install software,
that isn't necessary and only complicates things.

Generally speaking, adding a router might mean they need the
MAC address, and the router should mostly use the default
settings. It probably needs set to Dynamic IP address, and
to renew the IP forever (continually, or however it's
worded). If there are other Comcast-specific requirements
(not "windows thing" but general what-comcast-needs,
things), these should be very basic and available upon
request.


Now, my daughter informs me she has to physically re-set both the modem
*and* router each day, and sometimes even while online she will get the same
info box informing her she is "No Longer Connected" and again has to reset
everything!

Has she tried only resetting the router? It does not make
sense that, if the modem plus computer worked fine, now the
modem would need reset while connected to the router in
addition to the router needing it, IF it actually needs
reset, or perhaps resetting it just does something more like
renew the IP #.

Is this (constant re-setting of hardware) problem caused by an improper
router setting,

Have her make a list of any and all things on the router
that were changed. Compare that to the Comcast requirements
to connect- they need not know she even has a router, only
that with any broadband, their system will have specific
host requirements. Typically most now simplify matters and
only need the MAC address registered in a couple databases
(as I believe Comcast uses AT&T networks so there's the
second database).
or is this an issue I must take up with Comcast?

Well "must" is relative, you're paying for the service and
along with that comes the tech support. Typically tech
support automatically assumes the user has a problem on
their end and advises a power-cycling of all equipment, and
sometimes that is a fair presumption. Other times, THEIR
network may have an outtage and the client may struggle and
it seems something works but the intermittent connection has
simple come back. She might also check to be sure the
router isn't overheating- being passively cooled it should
not be wedged into a tight place or hot area.

Practically all routers now have a HTML (web) interface
accessible by a browser (like IE or whatever...). The
manual should provide the IP # for this access, typically
it's something like 192.168.0.1. If that is entered into
the browser like a URL, for example;
http://192.168.0.1 , that should bring up the router login
screen where (hopefully no password is set or she remembers
it- the default password should be listed in the router
manual). In these router web pages there should be a log
that can be checked, perhaps a status feedback page and a
reboot option.

Likewise with the modem, often the modem menu is
http://192.168.100.1/
It too should have a status page, a log page, perhaps a
signal strength page and other various things depending on
what access level the ISP has allowed. Before rebooting
either of these pieces it would be good to try to isolate
whether either actually needed rebooted. The modem should
also have status LEDs on the front of it.

Modem downstream power level can be a problem, especially if
it gets near -15dBmv which is often considered a lower
threshold. Too many TVs, splitters, poor cabling in general
can cause poor signal and a signal booster often cannot be
used. We don't know her environment, whether house,
apartment or whatever but getting outside the physical
hardware on-premises, the physical cable and then the ISP's
equipment could also be a problem. Exterior parts age and
while is used to work ok, things like temperature changes
outside can degrade poor cable connections.

The only way to really isolate something like that is to
reattach it without the router. If the router does seem the
only thing causing the problem then recheck the settings,
possible even reset it (detailed in the manual, often a
reset button is held in for a period while it's turned on,
but check the manual for the specific procedure). After
resetting it, using the aforementioned router web page the
settings provided by Comcast can be re-entered.

With all the above I am assuming this always happens on the
hard-wired (ethernet) desktop as well as the laptop. If
only over wifi, it could simply be that the wifi signal has
interference from an outside source or even her notebook
network adapter is flaky. You did not mention how she might
have had wireless for the laptop prior to the wifi router so
we cannot be sure if only one or both systems have the
failed connection in either configuration (with and without
router).
 
M

Mattrixx

kony said:
What did they have her do? Hopefully not install software,
that isn't necessary and only complicates things.

Generally speaking, adding a router might mean they need the
MAC address, and the router should mostly use the default
settings. It probably needs set to Dynamic IP address, and
to renew the IP forever (continually, or however it's
worded). If there are other Comcast-specific requirements
(not "windows thing" but general what-comcast-needs,
things), these should be very basic and available upon
request.




Has she tried only resetting the router? It does not make
sense that, if the modem plus computer worked fine, now the
modem would need reset while connected to the router in
addition to the router needing it, IF it actually needs
reset, or perhaps resetting it just does something more like
renew the IP #.



Have her make a list of any and all things on the router
that were changed. Compare that to the Comcast requirements
to connect- they need not know she even has a router, only
that with any broadband, their system will have specific
host requirements. Typically most now simplify matters and
only need the MAC address registered in a couple databases
(as I believe Comcast uses AT&T networks so there's the
second database).


Well "must" is relative, you're paying for the service and
along with that comes the tech support. Typically tech
support automatically assumes the user has a problem on
their end and advises a power-cycling of all equipment, and
sometimes that is a fair presumption. Other times, THEIR
network may have an outtage and the client may struggle and
it seems something works but the intermittent connection has
simple come back. She might also check to be sure the
router isn't overheating- being passively cooled it should
not be wedged into a tight place or hot area.

Practically all routers now have a HTML (web) interface
accessible by a browser (like IE or whatever...). The
manual should provide the IP # for this access, typically
it's something like 192.168.0.1. If that is entered into
the browser like a URL, for example;
http://192.168.0.1 , that should bring up the router login
screen where (hopefully no password is set or she remembers
it- the default password should be listed in the router
manual). In these router web pages there should be a log
that can be checked, perhaps a status feedback page and a
reboot option.

Likewise with the modem, often the modem menu is
http://192.168.100.1/
It too should have a status page, a log page, perhaps a
signal strength page and other various things depending on
what access level the ISP has allowed. Before rebooting
either of these pieces it would be good to try to isolate
whether either actually needed rebooted. The modem should
also have status LEDs on the front of it.

Modem downstream power level can be a problem, especially if
it gets near -15dBmv which is often considered a lower
threshold. Too many TVs, splitters, poor cabling in general
can cause poor signal and a signal booster often cannot be
used. We don't know her environment, whether house,
apartment or whatever but getting outside the physical
hardware on-premises, the physical cable and then the ISP's
equipment could also be a problem. Exterior parts age and
while is used to work ok, things like temperature changes
outside can degrade poor cable connections.

The only way to really isolate something like that is to
reattach it without the router. If the router does seem the
only thing causing the problem then recheck the settings,
possible even reset it (detailed in the manual, often a
reset button is held in for a period while it's turned on,
but check the manual for the specific procedure). After
resetting it, using the aforementioned router web page the
settings provided by Comcast can be re-entered.

With all the above I am assuming this always happens on the
hard-wired (ethernet) desktop as well as the laptop. If
only over wifi, it could simply be that the wifi signal has
interference from an outside source or even her notebook
network adapter is flaky. You did not mention how she might
have had wireless for the laptop prior to the wifi router so
we cannot be sure if only one or both systems have the
failed connection in either configuration (with and without
router).

Kony, thanks for your reply

As my daughter lives some distance away from me, I can`t answer some of the
points
you make, but do feel this is a matter of: "It probably needs set to Dynamic
IP address, and to renew the IP forever (continually, or however it's
worded)."
This is exactly what I will first be looking into ASAP, however I believe
this was setup correctly and that I just have to verify.
The only major setting I can remember that Netgear had me change was using
the MAC address of the desktop computer, rather than the default MAC address
of the
Router in the Basic setup Page. This seemed to do the trick in producing an
actual Internet connection via the router!
I will have to look again over *All* settings in the Router`s setup.

Matt
 
S

Sleepy

Mattrixx said:
My daughter has Comcast BroadBand Internet and (I think a Motorola) modem
along with a Netgear Router connected to 1 desktop and 1 wireless
connection
to a laptop.

We initially had a problem with a connection to the Internet using her
Netgear Router, (modem direct to desktop worked just fine) however after
calling Netgear (India) we managed to get her setup so that each Computer
could access the Internet at will and independently via the router (or so
I
thought).

Now, my daughter informs me she has to physically re-set both the modem
*and* router each day, and sometimes even while online she will get the
same
info box informing her she is "No Longer Connected" and again has to reset
everything!

Is this (constant re-setting of hardware) problem caused by an improper
router setting, or is this an issue I must take up with Comcast?

Thanks for any insight into this matter

Matt

Is she using emule? or a similar file sharing program? We have a LAN setup
at home and when my brother uses emule heavily it causes the router to
freeze up and require resetting.
Something to do with the large number of connections such software involves.
 

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