Configuration of 2 HDD's

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"Trent©" wsrote:
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Where did I even SUGGEST what yer sayin'? lol


Yup...exactly. And what I stated is completely accurate.


Every drive ever made? Not true!


Trent, you're trying to make the exception the rule. Please desist.

*TimDaniels*
 
Trent© said:
Virtually ALL? What about Western Digital? They don't fit into the
scheme of things?!


Western Digital is obviously an exception. You're basing your
advice on an exception. Please quell yourself.

*TimDaniels*
 
Alex, Anna, and everyone - thank you all for your input. With luck, I have a
"standard" 3 year old Asus motherboard (it's jumperless) and the "new" HDD
will be also "standard" (it's a gift, not new, and won't see it till the
weekend).
I plan on doing what my first inclination was, i.e. the 2 HDD's as masters
on different IDE's, with the 2 optical drives as slaves - it seemed logical,
and all I asked was whether it was correct.

Unusually, it seems that whatever the set-up, it will be correct - personal
preference (if I read the responses correctly and don't have non-standard
kit). Will post "success" if and when ....

Thanks, everyone!
Sincerely, Len.
 
"Trent©" wsrote:


Trent, you're trying to make the exception the rule. Please desist.

Sorry...no.

And please go troll somewhere else. The only time you ever jump in is
to contradict someone's post.

Try HELPIN' someone sometime.


Have a nice one...

Trent

Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876!
 
Western Digital is obviously an exception. You're basing your
advice on an exception. Please quell yourself.

*TimDaniels*

You just made the garbage bucket. I guess I have no patience for your
kind anymore.

Have a nice life.


Trent

Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876!
 
Are you saying that you installed hundreds of drives...jumpered as
master...with no slave attached? Why would you do that?

I've isntalled plenty of drives where the master setting was the same
as a drive that was a "single" drive, ie no other drive was on that
channe.
 
NobodyMan said:
I've installed plenty of drives where the master setting was the same
as a drive that was a "single" drive, ie no other drive was on that
channel.

Since I'm the one who wrote what Trent is questioning, allow me the
privilege of responding to Trent's question...
Is it so inconceivable to you that you can't understand that we built many,
many computers where there were only two IDE devices connected, i.e., a hard
drive and a CD/DVD-ROM (or CD/DVD burner)? So that the hard drive was
connected as Primary Master and the ATAPI device as Primary Slave. And there
were no problems whatsoever with the hard drive booting, lonely as its
position may be as the only device on the IDE cable.
Anna
 
Anna said:
...we built many,
many computers where there were only two IDE devices connected,
i.e., a hard drive and a CD/DVD-ROM (or CD/DVD burner)? So that
the hard drive was connected as Primary Master and the ATAPI device
as Primary Slave.


Anna, you've just described a scenario with 2 devices on the same
cable/channel - the Primary channel.

And there were no problems whatsoever with the hard drive booting,
lonely as its position may be as the only device on the IDE cable.
Anna


*TimDaniels*
 
Timothy Daniels said:
Anna, you've just described a scenario with 2 devices on the same
cable/channel - the Primary channel.
*TimDaniels*

Yes, you're right Timothy. I misspoke (mistyped?). Of course the second
IDE/ATAPI device was connected as Master on the Secondary IDE channel. Sorry
for the error. My conclusion, of course, remains as written.
Anna
 
Yes, you're right Timothy. I misspoke (mistyped?). Of course the second
IDE/ATAPI device was connected as Master on the Secondary IDE channel. Sorry
for the error. My conclusion, of course, remains as written.
Anna

Try it again...just for grins...

Take a WD...that has separate jumpers for 'master' and for 'single
drive '.

First try it as 'master'...get back to us.

Then try it as 'single'...then get back to us.

Then try a WD that has a combo setting for 'master OR single drive'.
Then get back to us.

An IDE drive set to MASTER must has a slave attached.

Final post by me on this.


Have a nice one...

Trent

Budweiser: Helping ugly people have sex since 1876!
 
Trent© said:
Take a WD...that has separate jumpers for 'master' and for 'single
drive '.

First try it as 'master'...get back to us.

Then try it as 'single'...then get back to us.

Then try a WD that has a combo setting for 'master OR single drive'.
Then get back to us.

An IDE drive set to MASTER must has a slave attached.


WRONG. That MIGHT apply to *Western Digital* IDE drives,
but NOT to hard drives to in general. Again and continually,
you try to base a rule on an exception. Please desist from
your campaign of disinformation.

*TimDaniels*
 
Trent© said:
Try it again...just for grins...
Take a WD...that has separate jumpers for 'master' and for 'single
drive '.
First try it as 'master'...get back to us.
Then try it as 'single'...then get back to us.
Then try a WD that has a combo setting for 'master OR single drive'.
Then get back to us.
An IDE drive set to MASTER must has a slave attached.

Final post by me on this.
Have a nice one...
Trent

Trent:
Let me join you in also making this my final post on this (interminable?)
subject, but allow me this parting shot...

Of course, of course! if we were connecting a WD HD that was designed with a
Single jumper setting and we were installing that HD as a single device as
Master with no other IDE/ATAPI device on that IDE channel, then obviously we
would jumper the drive as Single. What other course should we take?
Naturally, if that drive was INCORRECTLY jumpered as Master (instead of
Single) and no other drive was connected as Slave on that IDE cable, then of
course, problems could arise preventing that HD from booting. (Incidentally,
we ran across many, many instances where a WD was connected as a single
device, but was jumpered inadvertently as Master instead of Single, and
guess what? It booted. But, of course, that was an anomaly; it should have
been jumpered as Single).

So again, for the last time I will unequivocally state...
There is absolutely no need for a Slave device to be present on an IDE cable
that contains a hard drive that is correctly connected as Master for that
hard drive to boot.
Anna
 
Anna said:
(Incidentally, we ran across many, many instances where
a WD was connected as a single device, but was jumpered
inadvertently as Master instead of Single, and guess what?
It booted....


Thanks for sharing your experience with that aspect of
Western Digital hard drives. I suspected that such was
the case. I didn't think that a major hard drive manufacturer
would make itself so dependent on users remembering to
change a "Master" jumpering to "Single" whenever they
removed the 2nd HD - it would have made them too
susceptible to criticism by their competitors. (Can you
say "Western Diddley"?) :-)

*TimDaniels*
 

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