Computer won't boot up after installing new RAM


P

Pool

Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB wanted to upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working but no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing on the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i started computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000 Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
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J

JS

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even able to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.
 
P

Pool

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why i don't know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it could be a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones both have same
bus 400.Help me please.
 
J

JS

All memory is not alike, so the Kingston memory
specifications may not be the same as your older know
good memory sticks.
(Voltage, Speed, type single sided vs. double sided)

Go to Kingston's web site and check the specs
for the part number. Then go to the manufacture's web
site for your 512MB sticks.

Also it not a good idea in some cases to have both your
old and new memory installed at the same time.

If the new memory and this sometime happens it could
explain the problem but you said you ran Memtest86+
on the new ram and it passed so it's not likely a Power
Supply problem as memory does not use all that much power
unless your overclocking.

Try running Memtest86+ one more time and after say 15 Memtest86++
touch the case with your finger (removes any static charge) and then
touch one of the memory chips or the heat spreader if it has one
and see how hot the memory stick is, should only feel slightly warm
to the touch, if it's very hot and your not overclocking (assuming the
specifications are correct for your PC) then something's wrong.

Please post back the make and model of your PC or if home built
the motherboard make and model.

Another tool is CPUZ (AKA CPUID),
http://www.cpuid.com/
this will list your memory bus speed and the memory speed
your new sticks are running at.(CPUID needs to run from Windows
so may be only a to get the values from your older memory)
 
P

Pool

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell me if it is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again
 
P

Pool

Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install one Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again
 
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Lil' Dave

Pool said:
Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB wanted to upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working but no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing on the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000 Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated

Have similar Gigabyte motherboard, except its the "Pro" version. 2 Crucial
512MB RAM modules in sockets 1 and 3. Worked fine from day 1.

If one RAM module don't work for you, 2 is further self-abuse.

Further, on page 15 of the motherboard manual:
The following tables include all memory-installed combination types:

(Please note that those types not in the tables will not boot up.)
 
B

Brian A.

According to your mobo manual, Kingston.com and Crucial.com your board
uses 184 pin modules, not 240 pin.
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=GA-8IPE1000-L

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...1.0)+Motherboard&distributor=0&submit1=Search

or if the link wraps/breaks: http://tinyurl.com/pgfxvv

--

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Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
 
P

Pool

Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks again

JS said:
Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For [Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again
 
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J

JS

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks
again

JS said:
Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For [Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell me if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even able to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000 Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
P

Paul

Pool said:
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks again

At one point, you said the package label read

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G 1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

That is DDR2 memory. And yet, the memory module itself, has this for a label

1GB DDR PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T

At least the first part of that, is consistent with DDR PC3200 memory.
The same type as the Elixir 256MB DDR400, CL3 PC3200U-30330.

I'm not able to find a match on the "CT1GD64SH08BL-5T" string.

If I look at a stick of Kingston "Valueram", it looks like this.
This is unbuffered PC3200 DDR memory, a 184 pin DIMM. There are
no small buffering chips in the middle of the module. There are
eight chips per side, because the module doesn't have ECC protection
via a ninth memory chip. Notice the part number, begins with "KVR",
not "CT".

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/20-141-307-S02?$S640W$

This Crucial brand memory, begins with a CT part number.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/20-148-089-02.jpg

You'll notice in this example, the Crucial part number is CT12864Z40B.
The 128x64 is 128 million locations by 8 bytes wide, for a total of
1GB of memory. So the "12864" translated to 1GB. The letters on the
end, appear to help identify the memory family (SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, DDR3)
and the speed grade.

http://www.provantage.com/crucial-technology-memory-ct12864z40b~7CIAL5AH.htm

So to start, I would look carefully again, at the label on the RAM.
A Crucial memory, is unlikely to ship in a Kingston box :)

This is registered DDR memory. If you bought this, it won't work in
an 865PE chipset motherboard. This is used for server computers.
The extra funny chips in the center of the module, tell me this
is registered. the funny chips in the center, are smaller than
a regular memory chip. There are two register chips, and a
clock phase locked loop chip. These modules have nine memory chips
per side, meaning they also support ECC error protection. So the
module is actually registered ECC PC3200 server memory. They're quite
different looking, than the eight chip unbuffered UDIMM discusses first.
These would be RDIMM modules, where the R stands for Registered.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/20-145-310-04.jpg

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/20-145-310-05.jpg

Paul
 
P

Pool

Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it a RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

JS said:
There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks
again

JS said:
Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For [Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell me if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even able to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000 Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
P

Paul

Pool said:
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it a RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

The memory chip, appears to be a 64Mx8 DDR PC3200 chip.

EDD5108AGTA-5B-E DDR400B(3-3-3)
http://www.elpida.com/en/products/details/EDD5108AGTA.html

If the module had 16 of those chips, it should be a good one.
A low density 1GB module, shouldn't have a problem with
an 865PE motherboard.

Paul
 
J

JS

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing <Del> key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

JS said:
There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks
again

:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones
both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even able
to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB
wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing
on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with
the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of
Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000
Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
Ad

Advertisements

P

Pool

Hi JS

I will follow the steps you mentioned and i will update you with the
results.Thanks again

JS said:
It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing <Del> key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

JS said:
There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks
again

:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones
both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even able
to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB
wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing
on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with
the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of
Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000
Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
P

Pool

Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using 256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing <Del> key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

JS said:
There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much appreciated.Thanks
again

:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones
both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even able
to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB
wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and nothing
on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came with
the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of
Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000
Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
J

JS

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using 256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing <Del> key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Pool said:
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now
i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote
you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004
GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell
me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why
i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is
the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones
both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even
able
to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB
wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer
took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all
working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and
nothing
on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when
i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans
are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came
with
the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power
supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of
Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000
Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 
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G

Gerry

JS

FWIW two others have suggested that 184 pin memory is specified in the
motherboard manual. The new memory is not 184 pin. You can read the
manual in my earlier post.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?


Pool said:
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS
using 256MB RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i
have.Also do you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because
lately it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing <Del> key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS. Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the
power cord wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power
up and if
see if all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC
Health" status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick
ratings. (Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using
old RAM.Is it a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may
not be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330 New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X,
2004 GT Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...0-L+Motherboards&distributor=0&submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=KVR800D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For [Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same
time.Now i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I
wrote you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L ,
2004 GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please
tell me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is
why i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said
it could
be
a
case of a wrong memory for my PC how should i know if this is
the
case.Motherboard handles till 4GB beside new RAM and old ones
both
have
same
bus 400.Help me please.

:

Try running Memtest86+, this runs from a boot disk or CD
and should eliminate or confirm if your ram is bad. Install
only your Kingston memory before you start the test.
Let it run for as long as you can, 2,4,6,8 or more hours,
if no errors by then your ram is OK, but this appears to be
a case of the wrong memory for your PC and I would expect
it will fail within a short period of time is you are even
able
to
boot from the memtest CD or floppy.
See: http://www.memtest.org/

Also use the Crucial Memory Advisor Tool
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

Compare how close the specs are between what
Crucial recommends and what the specs are for your
Kingston memory.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



Hi

Recently i installed new Kingston RAM two sticks of 1GB
wanted
to
upgrade
since i had 512MB RAM.After i installed new RAM computer
took
around 20
seconds to boot up,power light,hard disk and fans all
working
but
no beep
that happens at first when you boot up computer and
nothing
on
the
screen.Then it booted up normally.Couple of days ago when
i
started
computer
it didn't boot at all.Only power light,hard disk and fans
are
working but
again nothing on the screen and no POST beep.

I took off new RAM and installed the old ones that came
with
the
computer.It booted up normally without any problem.

Is it a problem with the new RAM i bought or a power
supply
problem.Please
help me solve this problem.

Specification of the new RAM i got is : two sticks of
Kingston
1GB
DDR
PC-3200

Old RAM are 2x256MB 400MHZ

Computer specification

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000
Series
Intel 865 PE, FSB 800
Dual DDR 400
AGP 8x

Power supply: Infinity 450W
Video card: ATI 7500

Operating System: Windows XP Home Service Pack 2


Any help would be very much appreciated
 

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