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JamesJ
Hi. Any programs out there that will compact the Windows XP registry?
James
James
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Ken Blake
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The registry doesn't need compacting, and any program which
attempts to do this is more likely to do harm than good.
JamesJ said:Hi. Any programs out there that will compact the Windows XP
registry?
The registry doesn't need compacting, and any program which
attempts to do this is more likely to do harm than good.
J
JamesJ
Ok. Any program that will clean and/or backup the registry.
James
James
K
Ken Blake
In
Same answer as below. Don't do it.
Try ERUNT
JamesJ said:Ok. Any program that will clean
Same answer as below. Don't do it.
and/or backup the registry.
Try ERUNT
J
JamesJ
You're saying it's not a good idea to backup the registry??
James
James
A
Alias
No, cleaning it up is.
Alias
: You're saying it's not a good idea to backup the registry??
:
: James
:
: : > In : > JamesJ <jjy@adelphia_darwin.net> typed:
: >
: >> Ok. Any program that will clean
: >
: >
: > Same answer as below. Don't do it.
: >
: >
: >> and/or backup the registry.
: >
: >
: > Try ERUNT
: >
: > --
: > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: > Please reply to the newsgroup
: >
: >
: >> : >>> In : >>> JamesJ <jjy@adelphia_darwin.net> typed:
: >>>
: >>>> Hi. Any programs out there that will compact the Windows XP
: >>>> registry?
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> The registry doesn't need compacting, and any program which attempts
: >>> to do this is more likely to do harm than good.
: >>>
: >>> --
: >>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: >>> Please reply to the newsgroup
: >
: >
:
:
Alias
: You're saying it's not a good idea to backup the registry??
:
: James
:
: : > In : > JamesJ <jjy@adelphia_darwin.net> typed:
: >
: >> Ok. Any program that will clean
: >
: >
: > Same answer as below. Don't do it.
: >
: >
: >> and/or backup the registry.
: >
: >
: > Try ERUNT
: >
: > --
: > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: > Please reply to the newsgroup
: >
: >
: >> : >>> In : >>> JamesJ <jjy@adelphia_darwin.net> typed:
: >>>
: >>>> Hi. Any programs out there that will compact the Windows XP
: >>>> registry?
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> The registry doesn't need compacting, and any program which attempts
: >>> to do this is more likely to do harm than good.
: >>>
: >>> --
: >>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: >>> Please reply to the newsgroup
: >
: >
:
:
J
JamesJ
I'm wondering whether to use an image program to backup my system and/or use
a
program that will backup the registry.
Also should I turn off System Restore if I use an image program because of
the
large amount of disk space each would require to save backups. I've cut
System Restore
back to 7%.
James
a
program that will backup the registry.
Also should I turn off System Restore if I use an image program because of
the
large amount of disk space each would require to save backups. I've cut
System Restore
back to 7%.
James
J
John Doue
It is an oversimplification to say that cleaning the registry should notAlias said:No, cleaning it up is.
Alias
: You're saying it's not a good idea to backup the registry??
:
: James
:
: : > In : > JamesJ <jjy@adelphia_darwin.net> typed:
: >
: >> Ok. Any program that will clean
: >
: >
: > Same answer as below. Don't do it.
: >
: >
: >> and/or backup the registry.
: >
: >
: > Try ERUNT
: >
: > --
: > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: > Please reply to the newsgroup
: >
: >
: >> : >>> In : >>> JamesJ <jjy@adelphia_darwin.net> typed:
: >>>
: >>>> Hi. Any programs out there that will compact the Windows XP
: >>>> registry?
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> The registry doesn't need compacting, and any program which attempts
: >>> to do this is more likely to do harm than good.
: >>>
: >>> --
: >>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
: >>> Please reply to the newsgroup
: >
: >
:
:
be done without qualifying the statement. If you do not know what you
are doing or if you use a program that blindly deletes keys, yes, that's
correct, stay away from this.
On the other hand, if you are reasonably familiar with your system and
knowledgeable with computing, looking at the issues your registry
cleaner (assuming it is worth its grain of salt) will raise can help
prevent problems. Since nobody in its right mind would do such cleaning
without taking the elementary step of backing it up (I recommend
Lifesaver which is more user friendly than ERUNT but does use ERUNT, so
you have the best of both worlds), cleaning the registry is not
tantamount to shooting oneself in the foot.
Before attempting such cleaning, get familiar with your backup program,
experiment with it, pretending your present configuration is not
satisfactory and returning to an older one.
But no over-simplistic statements, please, unless you are sure the OP
does not deserve more than that ...
M
Mark Gulliford
Fantastic program that removes rubbish from the registry is regcleaner. i
have the set up program but believe the company who produced it (shareware i
think) are no longer in existence. if anyone knows of them i would be
grateful for a link. Regoptimizer apparently 'defragments' the registry but
i have no idea if that actually has an effect. not sure where that came
from either as it is also shareware but i imagine it would be available on
the net somewhere.
have the set up program but believe the company who produced it (shareware i
think) are no longer in existence. if anyone knows of them i would be
grateful for a link. Regoptimizer apparently 'defragments' the registry but
i have no idea if that actually has an effect. not sure where that came
from either as it is also shareware but i imagine it would be available on
the net somewhere.
J
JamesJ
I've messed things up several times thinking "Oh, I don't need that" I'll
most likely leave it alone (except for a reg backup)
Thanks
James
most likely leave it alone (except for a reg backup)
Thanks
James
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Larry(LJL269)
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 19:12:09 +0200, John Doue
|It is an oversimplification to say that cleaning the registry should not
|be done without qualifying the statement.
& I think it is foolish to do something that involves
risk with benefits not quantified. Faster, better or
smaller aint good enuf.
I posted here 3x the benefits I got- they were either
negligable or not noticable.
I asked TS about some of entries that had multiple
fixes & even they couldnt tell- like rundll type with
lots quotes.
Waste of time.
Just my 2¢ worth- Larry
Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.
|It is an oversimplification to say that cleaning the registry should not
|be done without qualifying the statement.
& I think it is foolish to do something that involves
risk with benefits not quantified. Faster, better or
smaller aint good enuf.
I posted here 3x the benefits I got- they were either
negligable or not noticable.
I asked TS about some of entries that had multiple
fixes & even they couldnt tell- like rundll type with
lots quotes.
Waste of time.
Just my 2¢ worth- Larry
Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.
K
Ken Blake
In
Of course I'm not saying that. I even recommended a product to
backup the registry--ERUNT.
Reread my reply. My statement "don't do it" was in reply to your
asking "Ok. Any program that will clean."
JamesJ said:You're saying it's not a good idea to backup the registry??
Of course I'm not saying that. I even recommended a product to
backup the registry--ERUNT.
Reread my reply. My statement "don't do it" was in reply to your
asking "Ok. Any program that will clean."
K
Ken Blake
In
System Restore backs up more than the registry, and no, I
wouldn't turn it off.
I don't think the amount of space you give to System Restore
should have anything to do with percentages. If you give it
around 2GB of disk space, that should let you save about a dozen
restore points, which should be sufficient.
JamesJ said:I'm wondering whether to use an image program to backup my
system
and/or use a
program that will backup the registry.
Also should I turn off System Restore if I use an image program
System Restore backs up more than the registry, and no, I
wouldn't turn it off.
because of the
large amount of disk space each would require to save backups.
I've
cut System Restore
back to 7%.
I don't think the amount of space you give to System Restore
should have anything to do with percentages. If you give it
around 2GB of disk space, that should let you save about a dozen
restore points, which should be sufficient.
J
JamesJ
Ok I'll check out erunt.
James
James
Ken Blake said:In
Of course I'm not saying that. I even recommended a product to backup the
registry--ERUNT.
Reread my reply. My statement "don't do it" was in reply to your asking
"Ok. Any program that will clean."
R
Rock
JamesJ said:I'm wondering whether to use an image program to backup my system and/or use
a
program that will backup the registry.
Also should I turn off System Restore if I use an image program because of
the
large amount of disk space each would require to save backups. I've cut
System Restore
back to 7%.
Imaging the system is an excellent idea. Makes for a fast and complete
restore if something goes wrong. I use Drive Image 7.03, originally
from PowerQuest. It has been bought by Symantec and now marketed as
Ghost 9 with some improvements, most notably the ability to do
incremental backups. Images should be stored on external media such as
DVD or an external drive. Storing on the same hard drive in another
partition doesn't provide much. If some thing kills the drive you've
lost the image file too. Also storing it on a second internal drive
makes it subject to system disaster such as theft, fire, a lightening
strike, other electrical glitches, etc. I keep mine on an external 250
MB WD hard drive which is disconnected when not imaging and burn a copy
to DVD stored off site.
It is also wise to do a daily backup of the registry using ERUNT by Lars
Hederer. This utility allows for easy recovery if the registry get's
damaged. Set it up as a scheduled task and store the backup in the
C:\Windows folder. Recovery is done from the recovery console. He also
wrote a utility, NTRegOpt, which will optimize (compacts) the registry.
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.hederer/erunt/
A
Alias
: JamesJ wrote:
:
: > I'm wondering whether to use an image program to backup my system and/or
use
: > a
: > program that will backup the registry.
: > Also should I turn off System Restore if I use an image program because
of
: > the
: > large amount of disk space each would require to save backups. I've cut
: > System Restore
: > back to 7%.
:
: Imaging the system is an excellent idea. Makes for a fast and complete
: restore if something goes wrong. I use Drive Image 7.03, originally
: from PowerQuest. It has been bought by Symantec and now marketed as
: Ghost 9 with some improvements, most notably the ability to do
: incremental backups.
Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
Alias
:
: > I'm wondering whether to use an image program to backup my system and/or
use
: > a
: > program that will backup the registry.
: > Also should I turn off System Restore if I use an image program because
of
: > the
: > large amount of disk space each would require to save backups. I've cut
: > System Restore
: > back to 7%.
:
: Imaging the system is an excellent idea. Makes for a fast and complete
: restore if something goes wrong. I use Drive Image 7.03, originally
: from PowerQuest. It has been bought by Symantec and now marketed as
: Ghost 9 with some improvements, most notably the ability to do
: incremental backups.
Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
Alias
R
Rock
Alias wrote:
Not sure if you are asking me or James and what "that" you're referring
to.
Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
Alias
Not sure if you are asking me or James and what "that" you're referring
to.
A
Alias
: Alias wrote:
:
:
: >
: > Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
: >
: > Alias
:
: Not sure if you are asking me or James and what "that" you're referring
: to.
You wrote and I quote: Ghost 9. I asked if Norton Ghost 2003 is the same
thing. It happens to come with an external Iomega HD I am thinking about
buying.
Alias
:
:
:
: >
: > Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
: >
: > Alias
:
: Not sure if you are asking me or James and what "that" you're referring
: to.
You wrote and I quote: Ghost 9. I asked if Norton Ghost 2003 is the same
thing. It happens to come with an external Iomega HD I am thinking about
buying.
Alias
:
C
CS
: Alias wrote:
:
:
: >
: > Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
: >
: > Alias
:
: Not sure if you are asking me or James and what "that" you're referring
: to.
You wrote and I quote: Ghost 9. I asked if Norton Ghost 2003 is the same
thing. It happens to come with an external Iomega HD I am thinking about
buying.
Alias
I'm not Rock, but I do know that Ghost 2003 is not the same as Ghost 9
or Drive Image 7.03. However, Ghost 2003 does have support for some
external hardware and certain DVD or CDR drives. It probably has
support for the Iomega since it's bundled with it.
R
Rock
Alias said:: Alias wrote:
:
:
: >
: > Is that the same as Ghost 2003 that comes with the Iomega ext. HD?
: >
: > Alias
:
: Not sure if you are asking me or James and what "that" you're referring
: to.
You wrote and I quote: Ghost 9. I asked if Norton Ghost 2003 is the same
thing. It happens to come with an external Iomega HD I am thinking about
buying.
Alias
:
No, Ghost 9 is the latest version after Ghost 2003. It is, I believe,
PowerQuest's Drive Image repackaged under the Ghost name with activation
added, and with some enhancements such as allowing incremental backups.
I have not used the Ghost prodcuts - I had Drive Image 7 from
PowerQuest before they were bought out.
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