Clock ALWAYS resetting itself 1 hour ahead

G

Guest

I have been struggling with this problem since the most recent time change
from
Daylight Savings to Standard time. This is also the first time in 9 years
of
using Windows that Windows has not notified me with a popup of the clock
being reset the morning after. I am not on a network. I am in California
and have the correct time zone selected: GMT -08:00, Pacific. I have
searched the Microsoft help center and made a few changes to the registry
recommended by Microsoft to force the Windows clock to synchronize from the
CMOS clock, which I have reset repeatedly. When the Windows clock resets, it
resets the CMOS clock. I have tried it with "auto-synchronization" and
without. The auto-sync works, the clock is correct for a while, and then in
the middle of the day the clock resets itself to one hour ahead with no input
from me. I have the correct date set. I have checked the "Automatically
adjust clock for Daylight Saving.." box. My computer is on all the time.
Nothing seems to help. It seems that the system refuses to go into Standard
time from Daylight time. Any (advanced) ideas? Please help me.
 
J

Jone Doe

If it does it in the "middle of the day" as you said, check to make sure
noon is not midnight, and vice versa. You may just have AM and PM switched.
Double click the clock and make sure it says "AM"
 
G

Guest

The clock is set to the correct AM/PM. My mistake - when I said "middle of
the day" I meant figuratively, meaning it resets itself at no specific time -
day, evening, morning, night, etc... Sorry about the confusion and thanks
for your reply.
 
G

Guest

Hi,

Double click the clock in your system tray and then on Timezone tab. Are you
definitely in the correct timezone ?

Regards,

Tim
 
J

John Doue

roland said:
I have been struggling with this problem since the most recent time change
from
Daylight Savings to Standard time. This is also the first time in 9 years
of
using Windows that Windows has not notified me with a popup of the clock
being reset the morning after. I am not on a network. I am in California
and have the correct time zone selected: GMT -08:00, Pacific. I have
searched the Microsoft help center and made a few changes to the registry
recommended by Microsoft to force the Windows clock to synchronize from the
CMOS clock, which I have reset repeatedly. When the Windows clock resets, it
resets the CMOS clock. I have tried it with "auto-synchronization" and
without. The auto-sync works, the clock is correct for a while, and then in
the middle of the day the clock resets itself to one hour ahead with no input
from me. I have the correct date set. I have checked the "Automatically
adjust clock for Daylight Saving.." box. My computer is on all the time.
Nothing seems to help. It seems that the system refuses to go into Standard
time from Daylight time. Any (advanced) ideas? Please help me.
No sure why you repost the same query with a different object. See below
my reply to your post "Clock always one hour ahead":

Just to start from the simplest base possible, I would start:

1/ by unchecking the automatically adjust for daylight saving"
2/ Uncheck in Internet time the "Automatically synchronize..."
3/ adjust the time if necessary and reboot. Make sure the time is still
correct.

If the time remains correct the next days, you will have to reverse the
process until the problem reappears (if it does). Then, you will know
what causes the problem.

If this does not take care of the problem, some software you are using
probably causes the problem. I ran into the same kind of problem until I
found that a program I used to synchronize folders was messing up the
time. I contacted the developer who recognized the problem and said they
were working on it.

Keep me posted privately if you would, this issue is of special interest
to me.
 
G

Guest

Hi Tim,

I am definitely in the correct time zone, and I did double check.

But that brings up a question - even if I selected another time zone, how
does my computer know where I am (it is)? I have "deselected" the
auto-synchro option so that I am eliminating outside influences, so even if I
selected a different time zone AND I adjust my CMOS clock in my BIOS setup,
why would the time that I set suddenly change all by itself.

My point (or question) is: What difference does the time zone make to a
clock that arbitrarily sets itself to some other time?

UPDATE: I reset the clock to the correct about 1 hour and 15 minutes ago
and left my computer unattended. Upon my return a few minutes ago the darn
clock shows 1 hour ahead again. ARGHHHHHHHH!!

Believe me, I'm stumped and am looking for any help.

Thanks!!
 
G

Guest

Hi John,

I have done all of what you recommended within the last few days BUT I am
going to start fresh and do it all again. Also, what you said about other
programs possibly causing the problem is an area I am going to check. In
fact, I just checked my Palm PDA and it had the wrong/old time on it.
Although i have not sync'd it in the last week, nor started the Palm Destop
program, I am going to check that and all of my other programs.

Thanks for the tip and I'll keep you posted.

Roland
 
J

John Doue

roland said:
Hi Tim,

I am definitely in the correct time zone, and I did double check.

But that brings up a question - even if I selected another time zone, how
does my computer know where I am (it is)? I have "deselected" the
auto-synchro option so that I am eliminating outside influences, so even if I
selected a different time zone AND I adjust my CMOS clock in my BIOS setup,
why would the time that I set suddenly change all by itself.

My point (or question) is: What difference does the time zone make to a
clock that arbitrarily sets itself to some other time?

UPDATE: I reset the clock to the correct about 1 hour and 15 minutes ago
and left my computer unattended. Upon my return a few minutes ago the darn
clock shows 1 hour ahead again. ARGHHHHHHHH!!

Believe me, I'm stumped and am looking for any help.

Thanks!!

:
Once you have tried all I suggested, if nothing works, set the clock one
hour behind, hoping it will catch up! :)
 
U

Unknown

Many times this problem is caused by the server. (server that syncs time was
not updated). Use the following sync site and your problem may be gone.
Tock.usno.navy.mil
 
U

Unknown

Also make sure you have a check mark on 'auto adjust for daylight time' under
the time zone tab.
 
G

Guest

Hi John,

First, I completed (again) all of the recomendations with no success and
then I had the same thought about setting the clock 1 hour behind hoping for
the catch-up. Did that about 3 hours ago, left to take care of some business
and returned to find the clock 1 hour ahead again! A 2 hour computer
originated clock adjustment! Arghh!! I am at my wits end.

I thought I had it solved when I found that even with the Windows clock
being properly set (in the AM), the CMOS clock was in the PM. I'm not sure
how, or if, I missed that before, but I corrected that and thought hopefully
that was the problem. It wasn't...

Roland
 
G

Guest

The reason why I reposted was I could not find the post from the day before.
I spent 5 minutes looking for it and thought that maybe I did not post it
properly. Sorry.

UPDATE: I found the incorrect time in my Palm PDA and in my CMOS clock. I
have corrected those settings, thoroughly checked all the settings in my
Windows clock and completely shut down my computer for 5 minutes and
restarted. Time was fine for the first hour, then I left and returned 2
hours later and the time was 1 hour ahead again. As mentioned elsewhere, I
tried to trick the clock by setting it 1 hour behind but that did not work
either. I could find no other programs that contain any type of time setting.

Roland
 
G

Guest

Dear Unknown,
As mentioned in my original post, I do have the "Auto Daylight Saving..."
box checked.

As far as synchronizing from a incorrectly set server, I am not on a network
(also previously mentioned). I have experimented with the Auto-Synchro
option and have found a synchro site that works fine. Meaning, when the
auto-synchro takes place at the specified time, my clock is correctly set.
But then, anywhere from 1 to 3 hours later the clock resets itself - all by
itself.

As an additional point of info, I have all of the current Windows XP and IE
updates installed.

Roland
 
T

Terry

On 11/11/2004 5:18 PM On a whim, roland pounded out on the keyboard
Dear Unknown,
As mentioned in my original post, I do have the "Auto Daylight Saving..."
box checked.

As far as synchronizing from a incorrectly set server, I am not on a network
(also previously mentioned). I have experimented with the Auto-Synchro
option and have found a synchro site that works fine. Meaning, when the
auto-synchro takes place at the specified time, my clock is correctly set.
But then, anywhere from 1 to 3 hours later the clock resets itself - all by
itself.

As an additional point of info, I have all of the current Windows XP and IE
updates installed.

Roland

:

Also make sure you have a check mark on 'auto adjust for daylight time' under
the time zone tab.

Have you checked for spyware/malware? I would try at least 2 programs
(Spybot, Ad-aware, Spywareblaster). This sounds like something is
forcing the change.

I used to use About Time on client machines prior to XP. It will sync
time at given intervals. Every minute if you choose.

I've also seen old CMOS batteries cause a clock to run faster or slower,
but not jump like you have described.

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Terry

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C

Chris A. Kusmierz

I have been trying to follow this thread and I understand your frustration.

What happens if you start in safe mode and leave the machine alone for a few
hours? This might be able to rule out a software application resetting the
clock.

Otherwise all I can suggest at this point is to set all your other clocks
ahead an hour and lobby your legislature to switch time zones <g>

Yours truly,
Chris "just injecting a little levity" Kusmierz
 
G

Guest

Hi Chris,

(lol) I appreciate your humor because I am frustrated. I will try the safe
mode experiment.

As an update, I unplugged my DSL/Cat 5 connection at the wall and then I
reset my Windows clock and my CMOS clock. Then I turned off the computer for
5 minutes, turned it back on and waited. In less than 1 hour the clock did
it again - exactly one hour ahead. At least I have ruled out any outside
influence.

I also found elsewhere these commands input at the DOS prompt (Start/Run/cmd):
net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

Unfortunately no luck - no fix. Thanks to everyone so far that has tried to
help. I appreciate it and welcome any new suggestions.

Still trying.......

Roland
 
G

Guest

Hi Terry,

Yes I have Ad Aware and ran it as recently as 5 days ago. I'll run it again
though. I thought of auto-synchro'ing every 5 minutes but I can't find an
option that allows me to select frequency of synchro.

I also have had a slow CMOS clock in the past but obviously not the issue
here.

Thanks again and keep trying,,, pleeeeeeeeeeaase........
 
T

Terry

On 11/12/2004 8:05 AM On a whim, roland pounded out on the keyboard
Hi Terry,

Yes I have Ad Aware and ran it as recently as 5 days ago. I'll run it again
though. I thought of auto-synchro'ing every 5 minutes but I can't find an
option that allows me to select frequency of synchro.

I also have had a slow CMOS clock in the past but obviously not the issue
here.

Thanks again and keep trying,,, pleeeeeeeeeeaase........

:

I would run at least one other spyware program. One doesn't do it anymore.

"About Time" was a clock sync program prior to XP. Most don't need it
anymore but you might want to try it out. Be sure to disable the Windows
time sync.


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Terry

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J

JimWae±

I suspect some software is configured for the wrong time zone.
Have you tried changing your time zone to the next one west of you?

ALSO - possibly the start & stop times for daylight savings are in error.
Look in registry. Mine is:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"Bias"=dword:000001e0
"StandardName"="Pacific Standard Time"
"StandardBias"=dword:00000000
"StandardStart"=hex:00,00,0a,00,05,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"DaylightName"="Pacific Daylight Time"
"DaylightBias"=dword:ffffffc4
"DaylightStart"=hex:00,00,04,00,01,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"ActiveTimeBias"=dword:000001e0
 

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