Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - It's easy - Just ask Paul Thurrott!

[KristleBawl]

To say they [Microsoft] don't innovate is as silly as your other
statement about never using the command line in Windows. It's one of
these catch all slogans that mean nothing: 'used as a tool to manipulate
the emotions of people who haven't thought things through.

If you don't mind my butting in, I know how to use a command line if I
need it, but I haven't needed to use one since Win95, and that was only
because a friend *collected* infections of all kinds and managed to
really mess things up like a professional. (I still laugh about it.)

Once installed and running, just how much does Ubuntu rely on command
lines without offering a 'click' option? (I know, I know. That wasn't
very technical, but pretend I'm a newbie.)

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

What lies? I'm puzzled. Who in their right mind has ever said that? I've
never heard anyone say one never has to use a command line in Windows,
nor any operating system for that matter. Reread your reply and imagine
just how childish (and even silly) your accusation sounds.

Saucy

It's true. "Never needing to use a command line in Windows" is one of
the main points touted by many Windows fans to demonstrate that Windows
is supposedly more user friendly than linux for a desktop environment.
But times change. Maybe MS is seeing the light that having a more
powerful command line is a benefit, even thought not everyone might
choose to use it. Not ever needing to use a command line in Windows may
have once been true, but I don't think it's true anymore.

Get a grip Alias.

I'm not upset.

You know very well NT systems - and especially Windows 7 - have a
very robust commandline [sic] environment. I say especially Windows 7
because it arrives equipped with the capable PowerShell (Monad)
commandline [sic] shell out-of-the-box, which enables scripting of
the .NET framework [on top of everything else].

Saucy

Thanks for confirming the lies that Windows doesn't need to use a
command line.

Alias

Saucy wrote:
It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a
commandline [sic] command.

What!? Use a *command* *line*? I thought cryptic command line
commands were only for Linux. Oh well, there goes another of the
Windows fan boys and girls' arguments right out the proverbial Windows.

Alias

--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101

 

[milt]

Oh please, don't be so childish.

Saucy, what do you expect from a childish troll?

 

[Saucy]

Well come on, sure, most tasks can be done through the GUI, but as anyone
who's ever followed the instructions of a KB article knows, occasionally
there's resort to the command line. Windows is very user friendly, and many
people use Windows a lot w/o ever typing in a command line command, but it's
there and it's sometimes convenient for "techy" tasks such as clean
installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media. Command line scripting is also
useful in some environments to automate tasks etc. etc. If someone has said
this isn't so, surely you didn't take them seriously?

Saucy


"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

What lies? I'm puzzled. Who in their right mind has ever said that? I've
never heard anyone say one never has to use a command line in Windows,
nor any operating system for that matter. Reread your reply and imagine
just how childish (and even silly) your accusation sounds.

Saucy

It's true. "Never needing to use a command line in Windows" is one of the
main points touted by many Windows fans to demonstrate that Windows is
supposedly more user friendly than linux for a desktop environment. But
times change. Maybe MS is seeing the light that having a more powerful
command line is a benefit, even thought not everyone might choose to use
it. Not ever needing to use a command line in Windows may have once been
true, but I don't think it's true anymore.

Saucy wrote:
Get a grip Alias.

I'm not upset.

You know very well NT systems - and especially Windows 7 - have a very
robust commandline [sic] environment. I say especially Windows 7
because it arrives equipped with the capable PowerShell (Monad)
commandline [sic] shell out-of-the-box, which enables scripting of the
.NET framework [on top of everything else].

Saucy

Thanks for confirming the lies that Windows doesn't need to use a
command line.

Alias


Saucy wrote:
It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
[sic] command.

What!? Use a *command* *line*? I thought cryptic command line commands
were only for Linux. Oh well, there goes another of the Windows fan
boys and girls' arguments right out the proverbial Windows.

Alias

--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101

 

[Saucy]

Day to day stuff and most system stuff can be done through GUIs. Hey - just
about everything can be done through a GUI if someone wants to code the GUI
program. But occasionally one uses the command line for some "techy" tasks
such as clean installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media .. and in some
environments it's used with scripts to automate.

Saucy

 

[David B.]

What Paul Thurrott neglected to mention is his workaround hack will not
pass the Windows Genuine Advantage validation. So those who use his
hack will soon find they'll need to purchase a Windows 7 "Full Version"
license.

 

[Saucy]

Passes here. I tested downloading the Powershell 1.0 from the Microsoft
website, something which requires validation i.e. a computer with a 'clean
install using the upgrade media' (don't worry, we pay for our software) was
tested and validation went through OK, no problem.

I would venture, then, that your source is incorrect.

Saucy

 

[Ian D]

What Paul Thurrott neglected to mention is his workaround hack will not
pass the Windows Genuine Advantage validation. So those who use his hack
will soon find they'll need to purchase a Windows 7 "Full Version"
license.

I don't know if that's the case, but if it's true, all they need to do
is a clean Win 7 Upgrade install, without reformatting. It will then
accept the upgrade product key and activate.

 

[Kevin SmallBone]

Kevin SmallBone wrote:


Kevin SmallBone wrote:


Saucy wrote:
It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a
commandline [sic] command.

What!? Use a *command* *line*? I thought cryptic command line
commands were only for Linux. Oh well, there goes another of the
Windows fan boys and girls' arguments right out the proverbial
Windows.

Alias

Cryptic line commands are for Linux retards. Linux is going bye bye
anyway so it really doesn't matter.

Um, the OP was talking about cryptic command lines for Windows 7.
Please try to keep up, moron.

Alias

They were talking about activation. With Ubuntu, you need cryptic line
commands to configure everything. That is why Ubuntu is rejected by
most who try it. Try to keep up, moron.

I haven't used a command line in Ubuntu in over two years as there is no
need with Ubuntu. There are GUIs for everything anyone would need.

Alias

BULLSHIT.

Really? Name one thing an average computer user would need a line command
for. You can't and won't.

Alias

Have you even seen any of the Ubuntu documentation? It's full of line
commands to do what you need to do. Of course you've never seen
documentation because all you use that crappy Ubuntu for is to post messages
here.

Loser

 

[xfile]

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

 

[xfile]

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

 

[Alias]

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias

It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[xfile]

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias

It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[Alias]

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

Wrong anti piracy app. I am talking about Windows Activation Technology,
formerly known as Windows Genuine Advantage.

Here's some info on it:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/05/for-windows-7-microsoft-renames-wga-to-wat.ars

Alias

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias

It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the
install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[Saucy]

Really !? Excellent.

I went by what Paul Thurrott said on his website, the page about clean
installing Windows 7 using the upgrade media.

If you're right, then this makes clean installing from upgrade discs slam
dunk easy.

Saucy

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[Saucy]

The Paul Thurrott method passes Genuine Advantage. I tested a setup I
installed as per Thurrott's page and it passed no problem.

I suspect though that if an any install activates it will also pass Genuine
Advantage, but the proof is in the pudding, of course.

Saucy

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias

It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the
install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[Saucy]

P.S.

Download something that requires Genuine Advantage e.g. PowerShell 1.0 from
the Microsoft website. It will say "Validation Required". Continuing though,
if it lets you though to download the file after 'validating', then you know
the method works:

[Windows PowerShell 1.0 Installation Package for Windows Vista (KB928439) -
Microsoft website]
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...35-C7DE-46A2-997A-EA58FDFCBA63&displaylang=en

Please let me know how it goes.

Thanks

Saucy

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias

It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the
install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[Alias]

The Paul Thurrott method passes Genuine Advantage.

Not possible as Windows 7 doesn't come with that program. It has a new one.

I tested a setup I
installed as per Thurrott's page and it passed no problem.

I suspect though that if an any install activates it will also pass
Genuine Advantage, but the proof is in the pudding, of course.

Saucy

No such thing in Windows 7. It's got a new name: Windows Activation
Technology. Go to Microsoft Update and you will be able to see if it
passes. You might want to do that before you start creating files and
installing programs, devices, etc.

Caveat: I have searched about this and it isn't clear if Windows 7 has
two programs or one activation program. The only way to know is to try
and go to Microsoft Updates and see if you're presented with a
validation request or not.

Alias

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

xfile wrote:
I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias



It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the
install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE


- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[xfile]

I know and I am talking about the result for this copy is being activated.

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

Wrong anti piracy app. I am talking about Windows Activation Technology,
formerly known as Windows Genuine Advantage.

Here's some info on it:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/05/for-windows-7-microsoft-renames-wga-to-wat.ars

Alias

xfile wrote:
I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias



It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the
install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE

- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the Control
Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy

 

[Alias]

I know and I am talking about the result for this copy is being activated.

You wrote that already. The question is will it validate.

Alias

I think so.

Windows Activation status says: Windows is activated.

Wrong anti piracy app. I am talking about Windows Activation
Technology, formerly known as Windows Genuine Advantage.

Here's some info on it:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/05/for-windows-7-microsoft-renames-wga-to-wat.ars


Alias

xfile wrote:
I have a better solution:

Do a clean install, skip the product key during the install, and go to
Control Panel/System, enter your product key and then use Internet
activation. Voila!

That's how I did it

Does it pass WAT?

Alias



It's easy - and you need install Windows only once.

Basically two little things one must do - a regedit and a commandline
command.

First install Windows clean with the upgrade disc BUT during the
install
routine DO NOT type in the Product Key and DESELECT the
Automatically
activate when online checkbox.

Once Windows is installed, do the regedit:

- navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE


- change

MediaBootInstall from "1" to "0".

Then do the commandline:

- At a Cmd Prompt type in:

slmgr /rearm

- then hit Enter

- Close the Cmd Prompt, click any OKs and then reboot.

You can now activate through the System applet found in the
Control Panel.

That's it.

Paul Thurrott has it all documented with screen shots on his
WinSuperSite:

[Clean Install Windows 7 with Upgrade Media - WinSuperSite]
http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

Saucy