Chrome

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Henry

I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the problem
is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just recently wouldn't
let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not blissfully happy.

Thanks

Henry
 
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Paul

Henry said:
I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the
problem is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just
recently wouldn't let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not
blissfully happy.

Thanks

Henry

It depends on how many happy stories you've read about it.

All I can tell you, is the average user sees popups on Chrome,
they're not seeing with other browsers. Chrome is a popular
browser, which means a malware writer would be a fool not
to attempt to crack it. If you're going to do an exploit, you
try to do a Chrome one first. Because there's a bigger payoff.

Are these users "careful" with their browsers ? I have no
way of knowing that. A careless computer user, ends up with
a few more problems, than the rest of us.

All I'm saying about my own choices, is I've seen no
reason to adopt, or even test Chrome.

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...va-chrome-ie-10-and-firefox-owned-on-day-one/

Every browser has been exploited at some point. No browser
is really all that safe. And it's going to depend on where
you go and what you do, as to what happens to you.

Even adding the wrong plugins to a browser can be bad.
Some of the browser exploits, have actually been distributed
as plugin updates.

I've had my computer "tipped over" by a browser exploit,
and at the time I was using Firefox. A commercial web site
for a large company, had a redirect placed at the root level
of the site, and my browser was sent "some place bad". So that's
how they got me. Normally, the site would be completely safe.
I missed a similar thing by a matter of hours, on another site.
By the time I got to that site, the mess had already been
cleaned up, so I didn't get hit by that one. This was a few
years back now, not a recent event.

Paul
 
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Hot-Text

| I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
| Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the
problem
| is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just recently
wouldn't
| let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not blissfully happy.
|

Sorry Henry
Chrome is Not a Microsoft Problem

Ask Google Groups
< https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/chrome >
 
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Hot-Text

| Henry wrote:
| > I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
| > Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the
| > problem is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just
| > recently wouldn't let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not
| > blissfully happy.
| > Thanks
| > Henry
| It depends on how many happy stories you've read about it.
| All I can tell you, is the average user sees popups on Chrome,
| they're not seeing with other browsers. Chrome is a popular
| browser, which means a malware writer would be a fool not
| to attempt to crack it. If you're going to do an exploit, you
| try to do a Chrome one first. Because there's a bigger payoff.
| Are these users "careful" with their browsers ? I have no
| way of knowing that. A careless computer user, ends up with
| a few more problems, than the rest of us.
| All I'm saying about my own choices, is I've seen no
| reason to adopt, or even test Chrome.
|
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...va-chrome-ie-10-and-firefox-owned-on-day-one/
| Every browser has been exploited at some point. No browser
| is really all that safe.

Just the Text Only
Browser is safe

For IE, Opera and Fx
Can be setup for Text Only
Browsering

No plugins need

I don't know about Chrome
Like you i will not Test it

Bill

| And it's going to depend on where
| you go and what you do, as to what happens to you.
| Even adding the wrong plugins to a browser can be bad.
| Some of the browser exploits, have actually been distributed
| as plugin updates.
| I've had my computer "tipped over" by a browser exploit,
| and at the time I was using Firefox. A commercial web site
| for a large company, had a redirect placed at the root level
| of the site, and my browser was sent "some place bad". So that's
| how they got me. Normally, the site would be completely safe.
| I missed a similar thing by a matter of hours, on another site.
| By the time I got to that site, the mess had already been
| cleaned up, so I didn't get hit by that one. This was a few
| years back now, not a recent event.
| Paul
 
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Mayayana

| I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
| Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the
problem
| is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just recently
wouldn't
| let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not blissfully happy.
|

I wouldn't touch anything by Google. Even their
search engine has become spyware. Their whole
purpose is to make money from targetted ads.
(Yes, I know, at one time they were a search engine.
That was a long time ago.)

You may use gmail and not mind Google reading
and co-owning your writings. You may not mind
them tracking everything you do. If that's the case
then maybe Chrome is not so bad for you. I wouldn't
know about it's actual functionality and settings
options, as I would never allow it online if I had
it installed.
 
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Hot-Text

| || I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
|| Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the
| problem
|| is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just recently
| wouldn't
|| let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not blissfully happy.
| I wouldn't touch anything by Google. Even their
| search engine has become spyware. Their whole
| purpose is to make money from targetted ads.
| (Yes, I know, at one time they were a search engine.
| That was a long time ago.)

Good FaceBook Browser
Will put Google out the Money

| You may use gmail and not mind Google reading
| and co-owning your writings. You may not mind
| them tracking everything you do. If that's the case
| then maybe Chrome is not so bad for you. I wouldn't
| know about it's actual functionality and settings
| options, as I would never allow it online if I had
| it installed.

You a 100% Right in my books
 
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casey.o

I wouldn't touch anything by Google. Even their
search engine has become spyware. Their whole
purpose is to make money from targetted ads.
(Yes, I know, at one time they were a search engine.
That was a long time ago.)

You may use gmail and not mind Google reading
and co-owning your writings. You may not mind
them tracking everything you do. If that's the case
then maybe Chrome is not so bad for you. I wouldn't
know about it's actual functionality and settings
options, as I would never allow it online if I had
it installed.

This is the main reason I wont use Chrome. I have heard that Google
tracks the sites you visit and directs advertising toward you based on
your web usage. I also agree that Google is money hungry and their
search engine has gone to shit. I was just searching for something on
google a few days ago, I put the phrase in perenthisies, and Google gave
me results that were not even close to what I wanted. They seem to get
worse in that way every year.

Unfortunately, I use gmail, but I dont have another email source as in a
private one. Of all the mainstream web based emails, I find Gmail is
pretty good at blocking spam, and allows Pop mail, so I can read my
email using Thunderbird, and not have to go to a website to read it.
So, I have to give google a good word as far as their gmail service.
I've tried yahoo, hotmail and others and they all forced me to read my
email on a website and I was flooded with spam. Gmail also dont close
your email account if it's not used for 6 months or something like that.
(a favorite trick of hotmail). If google wants to read my email, let
em'. They'll get bored quickly reading about farming and machinery
repair, or telling a friend about the crappy weather we have been
having. If they're looking for some real sex, terrorist plans or sales
of narcotics, they wont find any of this in my emails. Unless I'm
repeating some sexy dumb blond jokes!

DuckduckGo is a better search engine now. All the old search engines
like Metacrawler and Alta Vista are gone. The few that remain, like
Dogpile all use google and yahoo, so you cant escape them. Google
pretty much controls the whole internet, adn I'm afraid it will get
worse until they have a total monopoly.

Of course there is worse. There's Facebook. I avoid Facebook more than
I avoid a deadly disease......... I've said many times that Facebook
will destroy the internet, and they are working toward that. Everytime
you open any webpage with a FB logo or like button, FB is tracking you.
I have over 100 blocks setup on my computer to block FB, and I need
more. The day that Facebook and Google merge, will be the end of the
internet. I see that day coming.....
 
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jim

Henry said:
I've read in other threads that Chrome is not safe and not liked. I use
Chrome Version 34.0.1847.116 m. Will someone please tell me what the
problem is with Chrome? It doesn't give me any problems and just
recently wouldn't let me open a "phishing" URL. I hope I'm not blissfully happy.

Thanks

Henry

I use chrome on my iPadAir and laptop , I quite happy with it . I never get
popups on it .
 
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Mayayana

| Unfortunately, I use gmail, but I dont have another email source as in a
| private one.

You can get legitimate email for a small fee. Or you
can buy your own domain and get your own email. Or
you can usually get email through your ISP. I recently
wanted to get a junk email address and found only one --
inbox.com -- that didn't require me to give them a real
email address in order to get webmail. So most people
using free webmail have real email. They just find webmail
convenient, and in modern America one simply can't
overestimate the importance of convenience. :)

I worry not only about the basic, current problems.
(Google has claimed in court that *I* have no legitimate
expectation of privacy if I contact a GMail user. They
rationalize that by conflating the act of processing data
with having permission to read the email, which is like
saying the Postal Service has a right to read, copy, retain
and use for their own purposes, anything that passes
through their system because senders have implicitly
entrusted that material to them.)

I also worry about precedent. Even now the NSA is
siphoning bulk data and no one is sure whether that's
wrong. The only legal protection I know of is the law
against disclosing video rental history, which only exists
because Robert Bork's rental history was disclosed when
he was nominated for the Supreme Court.

Maybe it will all get ironed out eventually, but as long
as the majority see no reason to hold corporations and
gov't even to a standard of common decency, that in
itself becomes precedent for legal rulings.

I don't use a smart phone, partly for privacy reasons,
partly because they're so expensive, and partly because
I simply don't need one. Yet I half expect that one of
these days I'll be stopped for a traffic infraction and arrested
for the violation of "failing to record one's communications
and whereabouts, by means of smart phone or other device,
to be readily available to any law enforcement authorities
upon request." As no privacy becomes the norm, privacy
itself becomes suspicious activity: "We can't see you,
Mr. Smith. Please step in front of the monitor and report."
 
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casey.o

You can get legitimate email for a small fee. Or you
can buy your own domain and get your own email. Or
you can usually get email through your ISP. I recently
wanted to get a junk email address and found only one --
inbox.com -- that didn't require me to give them a real
email address in order to get webmail. So most people
using free webmail have real email. They just find webmail
convenient, and in modern America one simply can't
overestimate the importance of convenience. :)

When you're retired and on a fixed income, you dont have money to throw
away. Even if it's only $10 a month, that adds up to $120 a year. I
could find a much better use for that money. If I had something to
hide, I might be inclined to pay for email, but for what I use email
for, I dont really care if soemone reads it. Like I said, I talk about
farming and machinery repairs, and I get a daily weather report, and I
may get something from some company I contacted to get parts for a piece
of machinery, or something from an ebay seller after I purchase a part
for my computer. Around the holidays I may get a Christmas greeting
from an old friend or relative.

So, let em' read it. They'll soon get bored and leave anyhow. I DO
want privacy, but for what I use email for, I really dont care if it's
read. I don't do any online banking, dont use it for illegal
activities, and dont have anything to hide. So, who cares! Even if
google can read everyone's email, Consider the amount of email sent
daily. There is no way they can read all of it, and why would they
bother. They're too busy trying to make money than wasteing hours
reading emails. In the case of someone posting about illegal
activities, such as selling drugs, then the person is stupid to post it
anyhow, and deserves to get in trouble.

I normally have 3 gmail accounts. One is my own, one for my business
and posted on my website, and the third is for contacting businsses
which may add me to mailing lists, (which I hate), but this keeps that
crap out of my personal or business inbox. Recently I set up a 4th
email for Craigslist because that seems to be a source of spam.
 
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Motor T

| Unfortunately, I use gmail, but I dont have another email source as in a
| private one.

You can get legitimate email for a small fee. Or you
can buy your own domain and get your own email. Or
you can usually get email through your ISP. I recently
wanted to get a junk email address and found only one --
inbox.com -- that didn't require me to give them a real
email address in order to get webmail. So most people
using free webmail have real email. They just find webmail
convenient, and in modern America one simply can't
overestimate the importance of convenience. :)

I worry not only about the basic, current problems.
(Google has claimed in court that *I* have no legitimate
expectation of privacy if I contact a GMail user. They
rationalize that by conflating the act of processing data
with having permission to read the email, which is like
saying the Postal Service has a right to read, copy, retain
and use for their own purposes, anything that passes
through their system because senders have implicitly
entrusted that material to them.)

I also worry about precedent. Even now the NSA is
siphoning bulk data and no one is sure whether that's
wrong. The only legal protection I know of is the law
against disclosing video rental history, which only exists
because Robert Bork's rental history was disclosed when
he was nominated for the Supreme Court.

Maybe it will all get ironed out eventually, but as long
as the majority see no reason to hold corporations and
gov't even to a standard of common decency, that in
itself becomes precedent for legal rulings.

I don't use a smart phone, partly for privacy reasons,
partly because they're so expensive, and partly because
I simply don't need one. Yet I half expect that one of
these days I'll be stopped for a traffic infraction and arrested
for the violation of "failing to record one's communications
and whereabouts, by means of smart phone or other device,
to be readily available to any law enforcement authorities
upon request." As no privacy becomes the norm, privacy
itself becomes suspicious activity: "We can't see you,
Mr. Smith. Please step in front of the monitor and report."

Brilliant.......bring on the Hunger Games!!
 
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micky

Unfortunately, I use gmail, but I dont have another email source as in a
private one.

How do you get to the internet. I don't think you're using free
internet at the library, because you have aioe for newsgroups.

So doesn't your internet provider provide you with one or even maybe
more than one email addresses?
 
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casey.o

How do you get to the internet. I don't think you're using free
internet at the library, because you have aioe for newsgroups.

So doesn't your internet provider provide you with one or even maybe
more than one email addresses?

It's a weird deal. As long as I have a landline, I have internet access
included in the phone bill, but if I want "actual" dialup service, I
have to pay $18 more per month. The only difference is that without
paying that extra amount, I dont get email addresses or webpage space.
I dont believe they offer any support either, but I'm not sure about
that because I dont ask for help. The last time I had a different ISP
and asked for help, they completely screwed up my computer to the point
I had to restore my last backup. The phone company does not offer
usenet either, so there is no sense paying that extra amount just for
email. I dont need the webspace either.

Yea, I think this is weird too, but I wont complain. I need a landline
anyhow, because I am so far out in the country that my cellphone dont
get a signal much of the time, and since the cell is prepaid, the
landline is much cheaper for local calls. I think the phone company
does this to keep customers, because many people just have cellphones
now.

BTW: I can use AIOE from the library and other WIFI spots too. although
I rarely do it, because Im too busy downloading at WIFI's.
 
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Ken Springer

When you're retired and on a fixed income, you dont have money to throw
away. Even if it's only $10 a month, that adds up to $120 a year. I
could find a much better use for that money. If I had something to
hide, I might be inclined to pay for email, but for what I use email
for, I dont really care if soemone reads it. Like I said, I talk about
farming and machinery repairs, and I get a daily weather report, and I
may get something from some company I contacted to get parts for a piece
of machinery, or something from an ebay seller after I purchase a part
for my computer. Around the holidays I may get a Christmas greeting
from an old friend or relative.

Hi, casey,

IIRC, your internet access is dial up. So is the reply address for this
newsgroup. Aren't you paying for that? AFAIK, they probably have an
email address for you that wouldn't cost an extra penny.

My primary internet access is via DSL, and I can have about 15 email
addresses there, also for no extra charge. With this access provider, I
have 3 options for reading email, a web interface using a browser, or
POP3 or IMAP using a desktop client. Again, no extra charge.
So, let em' read it. They'll soon get bored and leave anyhow. I DO
want privacy, but for what I use email for, I really dont care if it's
read. I don't do any online banking, dont use it for illegal
activities, and dont have anything to hide. So, who cares! Even if
google can read everyone's email, Consider the amount of email sent
daily. There is no way they can read all of it, and why would they
bother. They're too busy trying to make money than wasteing hours
reading emails. In the case of someone posting about illegal
activities, such as selling drugs, then the person is stupid to post it
anyhow, and deserves to get in trouble.

It's not the fact they are "reading" it, it's the fact they think they
have the right to. It doesn't matter if you are doing nothing wrong,
they use the information gleaned for targeted advertising. Eventually,
they can deduce more about you personally that you would want them, or
anyone else, to know.

There's probably no person actually reading the email. Probably scanned
by computers looking for words, phrases, etc. they have flagged for
their use to discern the type of person you are.

They don't need any of that information about me, whether I'm doing
anything wrong or not. It's just none of their d***ed business.
I normally have 3 gmail accounts. One is my own, one for my business
and posted on my website, and the third is for contacting businsses
which may add me to mailing lists, (which I hate), but this keeps that
crap out of my personal or business inbox. Recently I set up a 4th
email for Craigslist because that seems to be a source of spam.

I've done similar. Currently have 7 addresses, but the two webmail
ones, Gmail and Yahoo mail, get very little use/


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
 
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casey.o

It's not the fact they are "reading" it, it's the fact they think they
have the right to. It doesn't matter if you are doing nothing wrong,
they use the information gleaned for targeted advertising. Eventually,
they can deduce more about you personally that you would want them, or
anyone else, to know.

There's probably no person actually reading the email. Probably scanned
by computers looking for words, phrases, etc. they have flagged for
their use to discern the type of person you are.

In that case, I'll have to send an email with the words "Fu*k Google"
Repeated about 100 times. That way they'll know what kind of person I
am.... <LOL>.
 
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Ken Springer

In that case, I'll have to send an email with the words "Fu*k Google"
Repeated about 100 times. That way they'll know what kind of person I
am.... <LOL>.

LOL!!!

BTW, Google is no longer my primary search engine. It's the engine of
last resort. I'll use StartPage, Ixquick, and Duck Duck Go before Google.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.3.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
 

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