chocolate fire guard...

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Rob Eventine

with over 100,000 complaints, bugs and other assorted probs with vista as
posted to this news group. is it not about time that microsoft admitted that
it has seriously screwed up on vista. it is about as much good as a
chocolate fire guard, as reliable as a snowball lasting on the surface of
the sun and about as useful as windows mil..
 
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Spanky deMonkey

Microsoft isn't going to admit squat. Why should they? They are arogant
snobs who don't care about anything but the bottom line. If Vista screws up
computers, they don't give a Rats ass.
 
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John Whitworth

Rob Eventine said:
with over 100,000 complaints, bugs and other assorted probs with vista as
posted to this news group. is it not about time that microsoft admitted
that it has seriously screwed up on vista. it is about as much good as a
chocolate fire guard, as reliable as a snowball lasting on the surface of
the sun and about as useful as windows mil..

My Vista works fine. So does most people's. They don't feel the need to post
that fact though. They are too busy enjoying the new system. Only thing that
failed on mine was minesweeper every now and again. Seems to have been fixed
now though!

JW
 
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Rick Rogers

As has been the same with every new release of Windows. You get used to it.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Robert Johnson

Version 1.0 of ANY software app has teething problems.. Vista is no
different and no one should be suprised. Wait for SP1 if your are not
adventuresome...

Robert
 
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Adam Albright

Version 1.0 of ANY software app has teething problems.. Vista is no
different and no one should be suprised. Wait for SP1 if your are not
adventuresome...

That con may work on newbies, it doesn't on me. What BUILD is Vista in
now, 6,000 something? That means is was ALREADY patched in excess of
6,000 times before the public got their hands on it and it still is
this buggy. ROTFLMAO!
 
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Kerry Brown

Have you checked out xp.general? It's busier than this group. There are less
trolls there. This means there are even more people having problems with XP.
Does this mean Microsoft screwed up with XP as well? What about the
alt.os.linux groups? They're pretty busy too. Is Linux fundamentally flawed?
 
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john

Kerry Brown said:
Have you checked out xp.general? It's busier than this group. There are
less trolls there. This means there are even more people having problems
with XP.

no dumbass, it just means there are more people using XP

Christ, how long does Microsoft beat you clowns with rubber hoses to get
your "minds right"??

freakin shills
 
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Heinz Kiosk

I've never been a Microsoft knocker. You won't find any developer who
sings the praises of .NET and XP more than me, but I'm with the
Original Poster. I remember 98, 2000, and XP coming out, and none of
them were remotely as bad as Vista is. In fact I clearly remember
being immediately impressed by the stability and lack of bugs in 2000
and XP and I don't recall discovering any significant bugs or flaws in
those OS myself.

In Vista by contrast I'm already suffering from several problems that
appear to be bugs. And when I look round the groups I see an avalanche
of serious problems. The most worrying thing about this is the LACK of
pattern. There isn't any one area where you can say, "Yes, this needs
more work." Instead there appears to be a vast panoply of different
problems that affect different machines and users differently.
Solutions that work for one don't work for another. At some level the
filesystem, networking, and security model appear to be unmatched with
each other; in conflict rather than harmony. It isn't as if I'm doing
anything difficult, just very vanilla .NET2 programs.

Despite all that got cut out of it and the prolonged development cycle
Vista appears to be still too ambitious, too under-tested, and mainly
too clever for its own good. The impression that I am getting is that
of too many bugs, and too many overlapping sticking plasters applied
in the testing phase that are interfering with each other.

Tom.
Fed up .NET developer trying to ignore worries about the 3% of my
userbase who are running Vista.
 
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Rick Rogers

They don't use rubber hoses anymore, they switched to party balloon animals
last year.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Shane Nokes

Have you ever actually met any employees?

They are far from "arrogant snobs".

Some of them are the nicely people I have ever met.
 
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Spanky deMonkey

Yea, when you are in bed with Microsoft folk you would think that way

I worked there are I know some who are actually very nice, but as a company,
Microsoft is arrogant, and they can get away with almost anything they want.

HERE COMES THE FLAMES.
 
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Kerry Brown

You can't extrapolate that an OS is flawed by the number of posts on a
newsgroup. Over time you could compile statistics about the number of users
of an OS and the number of users experiencing a certain problem. You would
then have to figure out is this was an actual bug or a problem with the UI
and the users couldn't figure out how to so something. I'm not saying there
aren't bugs in Vista. Of course there are. I'm not saying there isn't a
fundamental flaw somewhere in Vista. It's far to early to tell that.
Statistics is part science and part the art of interpreting data to
extrapolate results. Anecdotal evidence is ignored by most knowledgeable
people. Saying that "is it not about time that microsoft admitted that it
has seriously screwed up on vista" and offering nothing but anecdotal
evidence to back it up is misleading and wrong. Using anecdotal evidence you
can make almost any argument you want. I was trying to point that out with
the examples I stated. I don't believe them either. They were examples of
how similar anecdotal evidence can be used to counter the original argument.
It looks like this may have been over your head.
 
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Shane Nokes

Really?

Hmm so have I on and off.

Who was your PM and what division did you work for?
 

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